[cuddlyandcomplimentary]

Hi Guys,

This is my first (maybe last?) post and I'm afraid it might get deleted by Roosh, but I'm going to try anyway.

I'm a girl (25 from Latin America) and I actually enjoy this site. I think some reasons are:

1) It's so honest and blunt about men and women's interactions. So many women I know are totally unrealistic about what men want and what they can get from the men they like... it's really sad, and then I have to hear their complaints but they don't want honest advice.

2) I admit I laugh at some of the insults to American women. I've been here 6 years now and there are a few nice women I've met (mostly foreign born) but there are sooo many who fit these stereotypes.

3) I'll probably never do it, but the travel/passive income/always meeting new people lifestyle that some here are trying sounds very appealling, at least if I were a man I would probably try the same thing for a few years.



So... why am I posting? I don't know if anyone wants to ask anything to a real live woman, feel free (even though you guys wisely know that advice about women from women is usually lame). Also, if you want to know about my country, Costa Rica, I didn't see much travel information there. (I didn't know if I should post in travel instead, but I'm a girl so I chose "Girls" section.)

Anyway, I was a tour guide there so I know it pretty well.

Finally, I didn't come on here to criticize anything just because I don't agree with it all, but there's one thing especially that seems strange to me in all the "game" talk I've read about... the idea that confidence/"be alpha" is like a magic key with women.

Obviously this has seemed helpful to many men, so I can't disregard that... especially because I'm just one women and you guys have known many.

But, I don't know if you've seen the movie Dumbo where he gets a "magic feather" that he thinks makes him fly, but it just gets him to make the jump... maybe that's what's happening, since without feeling like you had this magic of acting "alpha" maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable enough to talk to new people, keep talking even when things get slow and be relaxed enough to enjoy it.

For me I actually hate the "alpha"/arrogant guy. I've met really handsome, well-off and charming guys that I've felt really into and then they start to act arrogant and it's an immediate turn off. Then there are guys who are sweet and deep and thoughtful who have good things going in their lives but are very humble about it, and that really turns me on. (Maybe this is something more for us women from poor countries?)

I think this "women don't want nice guys" thing is based on one misunderstanding... these guys are usually liars. They are not that nice in general. They act nice, interested, generous, complimentary, because they want sex and self-esteem increase from attractive women who they feel like they couldn't have without acting nice.

A REAL nice guy treats other men and not-very-attractive women well. They care about people who are sad or lonely, they're interested in other people's lives even when they have nothing to win from these people. Me and I think many women find that very sexy.

That guy will not give an extra kind of respect to a woman just because she's attractive though, maybe that's why there is this advice "put a hot woman in her place."

So... if this doesn't get deleted I will try my best not to abuse the privilige. If it does, oh well, sorry for the short estrogen invasion : P

Anyway, I wish you all best of luck in life.

[Enfant_Terrible]

You'll probably get banned but before you do, I'd like to point out this thread that will address most of your confusions.

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-248-po...l#pid79509

[pitt]

Wow thanks.

Well i dont think women should be banned from the forum just because they are women, as long as you dont create topics insulting our lifestyle or saying that we have low standards, it actually should be cool to have few women on here.

Yeah i agree about the nice guy thing, many guys believe that the secret to pull women is to be a totally scumbag but i think most people misunderstand one thing. Usually when girls say they dont like nice guys, they mean they dont like guys who are boring, the guy who had a really nice upbringing, the guy who takes too long to make the move, the guy who is very very formal, these chateristics may not attract most of women nowadays.

I am a nice guy but i do well with women but its because i dont give a fuck. Im respectful but i can play the bad boy role real quick. I think the secret is just to appear friendly but they also need to see that they aint dealing with a fool over here because when you women think that you are dealing with a really nice guy, you will take advantage of him.

Another thing i want to mention is that the guys on here are not what every guy in the world is like. Basically we are just a bunch of players (some wannabe players on here too) who joined this forum and have lots of things in common. Not every guy is looking to just have sex with every hot women they meet, many guys would come here and would probably criticise our lifestyle.

You said you want a question, so let me ask you a question:

Why dont you women give your pussy to every hot guy you see when us guys want to hit every hot women we see?

[MiXX]

Im a complete selfish asshole who only cares about satisfying my insatiable sexual appetite! I'm a sexual creature and won't apologize to anyone for it. Women fall all over the place for me knowing this fact without me ever actually saying it!

I vote we keep you around.....for the moment.

Mixx

[Gmac]

"I think this "women don't want nice guys" thing is based on one misunderstanding... these guys are usually liars. They are not that nice in general. They act nice, interested, generous, complimentary, because they want sex and self-esteem increase from attractive women who they feel like they couldn't have without acting nice."

This made me laugh.

When I was a 100% genuine nice guy it got me nowhere because of girls like you who were paranoid or bored.

[Dash Global]

Quote:

A REAL nice guy treats other men and not-very-attractive women well. They care about people who are sad or lonely, they're interested in other people's lives even when they have nothing to win from these people. Me and I think many women find that very sexy.

this rang a cord with me, as im kind of old school and have a more nice / charming style game & personality

anyways, welcome to the forum

[el mechanico]

This post is pure poison! Ban her.
What she wants is for guys to ask her for advice.
Don't listen to this stupid bitch, she has no clue what she is talking about.

[Kish]

(08-26-2011 07:01 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

"I think this "women don't want nice guys" thing is based on one misunderstanding... these guys are usually liars. They are not that nice in general. They act nice, interested, generous, complimentary, because they want sex and self-esteem increase from attractive women who they feel like they couldn't have without acting nice."

This made me laugh.

When I was a 100% genuine nice guy it got me nowhere because of girls like you who were paranoid or bored.

Thank you! Women use that excuse to rationalize their irrational attraction to Jerks,Bad boys and thugs.

Who are they to judge a mans real character? Women judge men based on how they make them FEEL...not on their character. This is why women write love letters and propose to serial killers(Scott Peterson, Charles Manson..etc) yet reject stable cooperative guys.

Keeping women on this forum is a bad idea. They are irrational/illogical and would confuse a lot of the newbies on here.

I vote to ban her.

[jariel]

(08-26-2011 03:51 AM)cuddlyandcomplimentary Wrote:  

I think this "women don't want nice guys" thing is based on one misunderstanding... these guys are usually liars. They are not that nice in general. They act nice, interested, generous, complimentary, because they want sex and self-esteem increase from attractive women who they feel like they couldn't have without acting nice.

A REAL nice guy treats other men and not-very-attractive women well. They care about people who are sad or lonely, they're interested in other people's lives even when they have nothing to win from these people. Me and I think many women find that very sexy.

That guy will not give an extra kind of respect to a woman just because she's attractive though, maybe that's why there is this advice "put a hot woman in her place."

Most of the time when chicks start giving game advice to men, it's really a lot of bullshit. However, in this case, I think this girl was keeping it 110 with us.

She just laid out the real issue women have with "nice guys", sometimes a lot of us have this habit of telling other men what women want, as opposed to listening to the truth from their own mouths, especially during one of the rare occasions they actually decide to spit a little truth.

Appreciate the honesty, if you can keep it up, then I don't see why there can't be a place for you here, just avoid being judgmental about views here that are inherently adversarial to yours.

[jariel]

(08-26-2011 03:51 AM)cuddlyandcomplimentary Wrote:  

A REAL nice guy treats other men and not-very-attractive women well. They care about people who are sad or lonely, they're interested in other people's lives even when they have nothing to win from these people. Me and I think many women find that very sexy.

There's a scene in the movie "How To Be A Player" that exemplifies this.

Trey rolls up into a house party and he picks the most unattractive woman there to dance with and he treats her like she's the baddest bitch there. The other attractive women there notice this and this makes this makes him look more intriguing to them. The reason being is they figure if he'd treat her like a queen, he'd treat them even better.

[Tbone]

(08-26-2011 09:12 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

This post is pure poison! Ban her.
What she wants is for guys to ask her for advice.
Don't listen to this stupid bitch, she has no clue what she is talking about.

LMAO!!! Damn mechanico that was rough dude. Even if you don't agree with her, ya gotta admit she's a sweetheart and her post wasn't disrespectful in any way. I thought it was interesting to read what a woman had to say...

I'm with you Dash. I have more of a "nice guy / charming style game & personality" as you say. But everybody has to play to their strengths. I know for a fact that if I tried to go all the way asshole, it wouldn't work for me personally because it's just not in my DNA. Women would see straight through that shit.

[el mechanico]

(08-26-2011 09:50 AM)Tbone Wrote:  

(08-26-2011 09:12 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

This post is pure poison! Ban her.
What she wants is for guys to ask her for advice.
Don't listen to this stupid bitch, she has no clue what she is talking about.

LMAO!!! Damn mechanico that was rough dude. Even if you don't agree with her, ya gotta admit she's a sweetheart and her post wasn't disrespectful in any way. I thought it was interesting to read what a woman had to say...

I'm with you Dash. I have more of a "nice guy / charming style game & personality" as you say. But everybody has to play to their strengths. I know for a fact that if I tried to go all the way asshole, it wouldn't work for me personally because it's just not in my DNA. Women would see straight through that shit.

I see through this. The reason for the harshness is because I feel that she may strike up doubt in the minds of the younger guys.

She's confused herself anyway. If I want to chat with sweethearts I go visit my kids preschool.

Women don't know what they want. What she said is just how she feels at the moment = poison
Case and point: I sift through online dating profiles and can't even message some girls because of all the restrictions in their mail settings. I smoke, too old etc.
When I see these girls out I play everyone of them.

Who said being 'alpha' means you have to act like a dick anyway? Alpha guys just get shit done and plow through obstacles. If others get left in the wake so be it.
If you are out are you going to buy flowers and hand them to all the fatties to be nice/charming for that one "special" girls affection?

C&C feel free to challenge me while you are still here.
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[Enfant_Terrible]

(08-26-2011 10:02 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

C&C feel free to challenge me while you are still here.

let me get the


I vote keeping her temporarily...let's at least get a Costa Rica data sheet out of her.

[Samseau]

[afronoob]

(08-26-2011 10:53 AM)Enfant_Terrible Wrote:  

(08-26-2011 10:02 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

C&C feel free to challenge me while you are still here.

let me get the


I vote keeping her temporarily...let's at least get a Costa Rica data sheet out of her.

She could be a trojan horse. Maybe she's here to learn the game and sell it to the Anglosphere slutdom. I can her peddling her new book entitled, 'how to resist the new game,'on Tyra Skanks,breathlessly explaining to the usual crowd of narcissist college girls how she breached our defenses with fake humility and shit,and then gained our innermost secrets.
We may be giving the cockroach the antidote to the can of raid-or am I being paranoid?

[poisonousbiotch]

Hey it's me, Costa Rican girl.

Well, I got banned immediately from posting, so this will be my final response, PROMISE!

I actually don't have any big advice to give, maybe I could have about travel or the magic secrets to girls from my country, but oh well, won't be doing that now.

I just thought it might be interesting for people to hear the views of a woman who is not really defensive about honest ideas about attraction and so on. Remember that not just girls have bullshit reasons to give bad male/female advice... some women want to feel they're living in a romantic comedy movie and above all base instincts, some men want to feel they are a "bad ass" guru who can now never be hurt again.

There are plenty of girls, especially in this country, who like the actual assholes. (Maybe the fatherless, "feminist" thing you guys go on about.) My guess is those are girls who you should probably avoid for anything longer than a fling. So, yeah, maybe some girls don't like actual nice guys either, because they kind of hate themselves and can't respect someone who doesn't agree.

In my experience I've had a few "nice guys" who pursued me actually because I was too nice to them up front, just being friendly, and it was taken wrong. Then when I had to be a bit more blunt the "nice guy" turned to bitter and angry guy pretty fast. I never tried to "lead them on" or ask any favors or that they listen to my problems, I tried to ask about their lives and listen and joke around with them so I guess they assumed that meant I was down to fuck / be their girlfriend. It's sad but it's because of this that I kind of stopped being so friendly to new guys I meet, which goes against my personality.

But here is a BETTER explanation why your "nice guy" thing failed... just maybe, when you were being really truly nice and girls didn't respond... maybe they just weren't attracted to you anyway, and whatever macho act you could've put on wouldn't have changed her mind. You'd be surprised at all the crazy reasons girls have for liking or not liking a guy (and it can change a lot over time), a lot of it is as shallow as yours.

Just a thought... and who says nice guys can't touch, go for the kiss, try to get laid? If that's your meaning than I think we are confusing nice with scared.

(BTW I have had a lot of guy friends, plus 3 brothers, who have been pretty honest with me about life I think. Also, while I haven't tried to pick up girls like you guys, I have had a lot of guys try to pick me up, unlike you guys, and I find it interesting, so that was my grounds for speaking, not just that I have ovaries.)

If you want to know what it's like to be a woman without getting a sex change or actually listening to a woman (God forbid), you could at least try this experiment. Put up a moderately attractive woman's pictures on a dating site, don't say anything interesting or commendable about yourself. Receive 300 replies. So how would you as a woman choose one? People all sound "very nice" when they want something from you.

Now to answer my one self-validating question I recieved!

"Why dont you women give your pussy to every hot guy you see when us guys want to hit every hot women we see?"

Men feel proud of getting lots of girls because it's difficult and is supposed to show they are attractive people, so it makes them feel good.

Women already know tons of guys would sleep with us, so it doesn't make us feel great emotionally just on it's own. For that we need a guy who we find especially attractive who is putting in some effort for us.

My not-scientistic theory about this is that sex, after you've done it enough for curiosity, is about self-esteem for men and women, we just get that different ways.

Come on, if sex was just physical for you guys why wouldn't you just hire really hot prostitutes? (Not that expensive in many places.)

ps - So I'm not pissed about getting banned, it says "no girls" in the rules... but I think it's funny how guys think I could "corrupt" "young players" by making them see that not all women love assholes. How about just live your lives and find out for yourselves, taking different honest opinions into account in the light of that experience?

Ciao

[Aliblahba]

DAMN!!! This fiend is a shape-shifting succubus. Look away!!!!!! I purge you from this forum, you shit sucking Jezebel!!!!!! Be gone from our midst!!!!!! Take you and your pet swarm of locust back to the deceptive depths of feminism.

[Gmac]

It's not about being an asshole, it's about game. Get your facts straight.

[el mechanico]

The only lesson here is how fast a bitch will turncoat! thanks C&C
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[Moma]

How is she banned when i don't see the line crossed through either of her aliases?

[el mechanico]

(08-26-2011 12:39 PM)Moma Wrote:  

How is she banned when i don't see the line crossed through either of her aliases?

She's not. probably entered her password in wrong and jumped to that conclusion.

[Roosh]

I think "no girls allowed" is stated pretty clearly.

There are many places on the internet where she can share her views.

[Screwston]

Why do you girls come on here and try to teach us lessons and ramble on? Typical females lol

[speakeasy]

(08-26-2011 12:39 PM)Moma Wrote:  

How is she banned when i don't see the line crossed through either of her aliases?

Roosh made a rule that chics can't post here(except Mrs. Chocolate). It's his blog, so he can make any rules he wants.

However, I don't see why some guys here are getting up in arms over her. She seems pretty cool to me. 99% of women would be horrified by the contents of this site. She seems to have a "boys will be boys" attitude which is cool. Too bad she didn't post a pic.

I agree with this statement:

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My not-scientistic theory about this is that sex, after you've done it enough for curiosity, is about self-esteem for men and women, we just get that different ways.

Come on, if sex was just physical for you guys why wouldn't you just hire really hot prostitutes? (Not that expensive in many places.)

Sex for men is about validation as much as it is the act itself. When a guy goes nuts and shoots up a gym full of women, it's not because his balls are about to explode, it's because that lack of validation from women for years on end has destroyed his psyche and caused his brain to short-circuit. When some guys say women shouldn't matter or they don't care what women think of them, they are fooling themselves. The need for acceptance from women is hard-wired into our DNA. Thus despite the cries from feminists, women already have considerable power granted by nature.

[Aliblahba]

(08-26-2011 02:28 PM)houston Wrote:  

Why do you girls come on here and try to teach us lessons and ramble on? Typical females lol

It sounds like biz is slow down in "The Gulch".