[lavidaloca]

I think pretty much everywhere in the world unless you are able to speak the language or a language that is widely spoken you aren't going to exactly kill it. Obviously thailand, phillipines appear to be exceptions to that rule.

If you can't talk or communicate your essentially only selling yourself as a "provider" or in some cases as being really good looking.

I think it really shows the importance of language skills if your going to a country where english isn't relatively widely spoken.

I suspect if you were better able to communicate with the girls you'd be getting them into bed faster as the shit you'd cover with them in 4 or 5 dates you could cover in a couple hours...so she'd feel like she knows you a lot faster!

[Doc]

Shit scotian, could be that we have slept in the same igloo amigo!
I'll ask her if she knows another world traveler apart form me that goes by the name scotian tmrw

Anyway, Thanks for the Rep! And I'm really glad to get some confirmation of my observations.

I still got the naging feeling that you could slay it here - solid numbers and dates with 7ns come easily, it's just so damn hard to get them to put out - also I hate dating a chick when I'm unsure of if and when I get my ROI.

Like I have this one chica that just came out of a 5 year relationship that I have been seeing two times (she's hot with huge boobs that at least look naturally), but she's all like "I don't kiss on the first date blabla"-bullshit and then again writes me fb-messages she wants to see me and likes me and shit. But in regard of her overall situation (fresh out of a long relationship, has to work in the family business, studies too, gets calls from mommy when she's out with doc) I'm not really motivated to continue with the situation, since I have no clear indication that she will put out soon. Maybe she's just looking for a pendejo marrano to pay her shit, who knows. (not asking for advice, just an example of the situations I have to deal with here)

Maybe lavidaloca is right and you just need way more spanish skill, though I can game all my chicas exclusively in spanish now
(well not in very good spanish, but it works well enough), or some sort of local value which I cannot provide.

So my motivation for gaming is kinda low since it will lead to stupid dates that I hate. And at the end of the date where I've been staring at gorgeous tits all the time I go home with blue balls about to burst. Like I wrote, I just might stick with FB Nr.2 for the rest of my stay since I'll go to medellin in three weeks anyway. I prefer a guaranteed lay with my FB to dates with unclear outcome.

[godzilla]

So I've been here for 10 days and might move around A Bit. So here we go....

Nothing has changed to much since other sheets were dropped ..seems like all the same places are good, so I don't have much to add nightlife wise. I will say it's definitely cheaper though since the dollar is at 1=3100 more or less.

Checked out Gringo tuesday. Lots of gringos but not a terrible ratio, but theres seems def better talent and better ratios. Im starting to hit peak going out age so I need improve my day game a lot. I ended going to bed at like 11 after dancing with some cute 7 I approached.

Since most of us are running online game down here. Bogota Beer Company bars seem to be a good spot for dates if your meeting up for a drink.

For coffee dates, if your in Chapinero, there's an Oma on 61 and septima. Place has sofas.

As for girls, 3 bangs so far....I can see why already there are so many posts telling guys to never marry a colombian. Dont get me wrong, the girls are feminine and fun to have sex with but that's really about. I'm getting lots of horrible compulsive lying and game playing. Being by myself makes it worse and is starting to annoy me a bit.

Anyways, I will add the overall quality here is nothing to tell about. Countries in Europe are better overall. However, I will say walking around Zona T on a Saturday was crazy. I'd say I would bang 95-100 percent of the girls walking around. I'd say it's best quality I've seen outside of argentina.

[chochemonger1]

(10-01-2015 09:20 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

So I've been here for 10 days and might move around A Bit. So here we go....

Nothing has changed to much since other sheets were dropped ..seems like all the same places are good, so I don't have much to add nightlife wise. I will say it's definitely cheaper though since the dollar is at 1=3100 more or less.

Checked out Gringo tuesday. Lots of gringos but not a terrible ratio, but theres seems def better talent and better ratios. Im starting to hit peak going out age so I need improve my day game a lot. I ended going to bed at like 11 after dancing with some cute 7 I approached.

Since most of us are running online game down here. Bogota Beer Company bars seem to be a good spot for dates if your meeting up for a drink.

For coffee dates, if your in Chapinero, there's an Oma on 61 and septima. Place has sofas.

As for girls, 3 bangs so far....I can see why already there are so many posts telling guys to never marry a colombian. Dont get me wrong, the girls are feminine and fun to have sex with but that's really about. I'm getting lots of horrible compulsive lying and game playing. Being by myself makes it worse and is starting to annoy me a bit.

Anyways, I will add the overall quality here is nothing to tell about. Countries in Europe are better overall. However, I will say walking around Zona T on a Saturday was crazy. I'd say I would bang 95-100 percent of the girls walking around. I'd say it's best quality I've seen outside of argentina.

I would not say countries in Europe are better overall for women. Average quality is better than most, if not for certain specific eastern or mediterranean European countries.
But yes agreed... Colombian women are not girlfriend material.
For younger quality men it is not a place to maximize your potential.
For older men, I cant think of a country that can beat it.

[Travesty]

choche have you been to Vietnam, Taiwan, or China to compare for good experiences for older guys?

[chochemonger1]

Travesty.... Vietnam 4 years ago. I banged mostly 23 to 27 yr olds.
Taiwan...my brother went 2 yrs ago and he said it was not easy; mostly 24 to 29 yr olds.
China....i imagine it is in between Taiwan and most of SE Asia.
Colombia...my average is still below 23, and I think I can still pull it off for 3 or 4 more years.

[Travesty]

^ Damn seems like really only PI, DR, and Africa can keep up with Colombia. Well maybe Venezuela.

[chochemonger1]

Venezuela is more of a Colombia-Ecuador hybrid or in between for older men. No reason to search there when you have it simpler in Colombia.

[godzilla]

(10-01-2015 11:59 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 09:20 PM)godzilla Wrote:  

So I've been here for 10 days and might move around A Bit. So here we go....

Nothing has changed to much since other sheets were dropped ..seems like all the same places are good, so I don't have much to add nightlife wise. I will say it's definitely cheaper though since the dollar is at 1=3100 more or less.

Checked out Gringo tuesday. Lots of gringos but not a terrible ratio, but theres seems def better talent and better ratios. Im starting to hit peak going out age so I need improve my day game a lot. I ended going to bed at like 11 after dancing with some cute 7 I approached.

Since most of us are running online game down here. Bogota Beer Company bars seem to be a good spot for dates if your meeting up for a drink.

For coffee dates, if your in Chapinero, there's an Oma on 61 and septima. Place has sofas.

As for girls, 3 bangs so far....I can see why already there are so many posts telling guys to never marry a colombian. Dont get me wrong, the girls are feminine and fun to have sex with but that's really about. I'm getting lots of horrible compulsive lying and game playing. Being by myself makes it worse and is starting to annoy me a bit.

Anyways, I will add the overall quality here is nothing to tell about. Countries in Europe are better overall. However, I will say walking around Zona T on a Saturday was crazy. I'd say I would bang 95-100 percent of the girls walking around. I'd say it's best quality I've seen outside of argentina.

I would not say countries in Europe are better overall for women. Average quality is better than most, if not for certain specific eastern or mediterranean European countries.
But yes agreed... Colombian women are not girlfriend material.
For younger quality men it is not a place to maximize your potential.
For older men, I cant think of a country that can beat it.

I was starting to second guess that comment walking around today but I'll keep that comment to Chapinero.

[Merenguero]

(10-02-2015 12:20 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Venezuela is more of a Colombia-Ecuador hybrid or in between for older men. No reason to search there when you have it simpler in Colombia.

I'd say the attitude of the girls is at least slightly worse too. The only point to going there is that it is less visited/more feared than Colombia, which can make it better.

[chochemonger1]

(10-02-2015 03:21 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  

(10-02-2015 12:20 AM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Venezuela is more of a Colombia-Ecuador hybrid or in between for older men. No reason to search there when you have it simpler in Colombia.

I'd say the attitude of the girls is at least slightly worse too. The only point to going there is that it is less visited/more feared than Colombia, which can make it better.

But supposedly, Venezuela has a high obesity rate for the region, which based on their economic situation should not be the case.
I tried to convince myself to go last year to Venezuela, but the female contacts I made online told me otherwise..... in more ways than one.

[LINUX]

Godzilla, you should turn on your pm's so I can tell you something about Bogota.

[godzilla]

Haha thanks man, didnt even know I had to turn it on.

Btw, if you need your Venezuela flag, no reason to go. Plenty in Bogota, meeting one tomorrow

[kongzi]

I'm seriously considering a trip to Bogota. I've traveled before, but never anywhere in South America. If I come, it will be in 1-2 weeks from now. I plan to stay around 5 days. I'm looking to party, meet people, have fun, and also experience a new culture. I have some questions

-I see there's a high chance of thunderstorms in the next couple weeks. Do these usually last most of the day or for just a short period? Should I not let this deter me from coming to Bogota?

Quote:

You should def learn Spanish if you want to swoop some girls that are NOT gringo hunters.

-If I listen to the Pimsleur recordings this week, I believe I can understand most of the recordings by the time I arrive in Bogota. Is that enough to possibly score with the non-gringo-seeking girls (I assume those gringo hunters are lower quality as foreign women usually are uglier the better their English levels)? Are there a decent number of quality non-gringo seeking girls who can speak English?

Or if my Spanish isn't good enough, would I still be able to have a good time if I meet a local from Couchsurfing and have that person introduce me to people?

[Robert Plant]

Very few Colombians speak English.

[Shimmy]

You'll have a great time no matter what happens. Even if you meet the lower quality girls they will be better than the normal girls from where you're coming from (assuming it's a western country). Unless you're going there to find a wife (which I advice against in general) then who cares if they are gringo hunters. Unless you become Colombian before your trip there's always a good chance any girl you pick up will be a gringo hunter spanish or not.

[Atomic]

Understand scripted recordings is a huge step from conversations. I did something similar and listened to recordings/duolingo/read short stories before going, I was still woefully unprepared. Prepare to be shocked with how little you understand. Let girls know your Spanish sucks, and ask them to help you learn. Bring your phone on dates and you can use google translate.

That being said. High levels of Spanish will definitely make a difference. I saw a huge difference from day 1 (google translate 90% of time) to day 30 (google translate 5-10% of time).

The rain is a kick in the nuts sometimes. I have been cockblocked by rain before. Dates cancel because it sucks to walk around In the rain and a lot of times the rain causes localized flooding which shuts down traffic. Bogota has real shitty storm drainage. Keep an eye on the hourly weather. If you see a storm coming in have a chick come over earlier in the day. Then if she's stuck, at least you guys are stuck together.

Stay somewhere in close to nightlife, a couple blocks at most. Otherwise you do really risk having your 5 day stay really fucked by weather. You might want to consider the costal areas of Colombia or somewhere with less rainy weather for a 5 day stay.

Check out the Colombia master thread