[remarkable vigour]

(03-23-2019 06:50 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Anybody want to guess at the psychology behind Peterson advertising Vox's book?

[url=https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1109186992724688898?s=20][/url]

Because Peterson is a proper academic, he is trying (probably unsuccessfully) to point out that some people are simply wrong about him.

[Heuristics]

Well for all you team voxers, this globalist just promoted his book. Should be happy.

[SamuelBRoberts]

I don't get a cut of the royalties, so I'm neither happy nor unhappy. It's just weird.

Vox's take on this does seem right, though.

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Nothing burns a gamma's soul like public humiliation:
Dr Jordan B Peterson@jordanbpeterson
I've never encountered a writer as self satisfied by his own intelligence as this one

Dr Jordan B Peterson@jordanbpeterson
With the clear exception of Vox Day.

Some readers have asked me why Peterson is mentioning Jordanetics now after ignoring it for several months. The reason is that he's had a very bad week and discovered that despite his success, he's still not accepted by the intellectual elite whose approval he craves, so he's lashing out at everything that is causing him emotional pain.

Gammas never forgive and never forget, which is why they're capable of erupting angrily over something that happened years ago, even when everyone else has forgotten it. In Peterson's mind, his rejection by Cambridge and the contempt with which he is treated in Jordanetics are essentially the same thing, it's a malicious refusal to grant him Special Smart Boy status.

[StrikeBack]

Here we go again, Vox Day and his obsession with diagnosing everyone he doesn't like as Gamma. Which makes him sound exactly like the Gamma he so despises. Ironically he's trying to psycho-analyse a world-renown clinical psychologist... Completely out of his depth as usual.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-24-2019 12:50 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 10:23 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Peterson: "I'm not alt-right, pleeeeaasse belieeeeve meeeee!!!!"

Media: Laughs

Are you suggesting that Peterson should just bend over and take it when the media outright lies about him, then? What is the point of this post?

The point is that it's hilarious that the media can make Peterson dance like a monkey every time they toss out a casual reference to him being alt-right or "aligned".

The correct response is to shrug your shoulders or maybe start a law suit. It takes the media 5 minutes to accuse him and it takes him 5 weeks to recover, after which he always looks like a bitch anyway.

But such is the life of celebrities who both fail to tow the progressive line AND refuse to draw the connections of who's pushing what and why. Peterson wont hit back in any meaningful way, which is why the media will continue to spend that 5 minutes every 5 weeks to slander him and watch him chase his tail.

I suppose what's worse is that for a clinical psychologist and a guy that in general should know better it sets a terrible example for the guys who look up to him as some sort of mentor. He should be well aware that engaging honestly with monkeys flinging shit is a moronic endeavor and that real men should place themselves above that. Threaten legal action or simply call slander out for what it is in as few words as possible. Being a public figure doesn't mean you need to engage with every shit-tier journalist that takes a shot at you. It only lends those shit-tier journalists credibility.

[CynicalContrarian]

Fair bet, if you asked fake news media folk to accurately & genuinely define - "alt-right", they'd be unable to do so.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Fairly simple.

Everyone on the Right who's not welcome at CPAC.

[StrikeBack]

I follow Jordan Peterson on social media, and I simply don't see this "chasing his tail" nonsense that Leonard made up above. He made one post bringing this up, that's it.

One thing I find very fascinating about JP is that people from the radical left and the loser alt-right have a lot of criticisms for him yet have hardly read or listened to anything he actually says. However, they would consume hours and hours of youtube videos from gammas like Vox Day criticising JP. The good Dr is prolific in his video and written content, why not go to the actual source? Are both radical leftists and loser rightists addicted to the same two-minute instant hate recipe that our modern culture is obsessed with?

[Easy_C]

The best critique of JP comes from Jan Irvin., who points out Peterson repeatedly saying that his objection to the left is than they're encouraging the rise of the alt right.

[StrikeBack]

Usually when he's asked about his criticism of the radical left, he often cites the history of the 20th century (communism) as his objection.

JP hardly ever mentions the alt right in his lectures or interviews, unless someone specifically asks him about them.

I have a feeling that his critics, including this fellow Jan Irvin (never heard of him) never actually watch or read anything JP produces. It's all soundbites and gossips they're quoting.

[TigerMandingo]

(03-25-2019 11:30 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

I have a feeling that his critics, including this fellow Jan Irvin (never heard of him) never actually watch or read anything JP produces.

Part of that is because he is unwatchable and unreadable. The man has no sense of humor, weird mannerisms, and an abysmal Canadian accent.

Ad hominem! I know I know and I'm sorry!

[Captain Gh]

^ To each is own. The fact that he's not trying to Bank on his status "the easy" 'Hollywood' way" and that when he's talking, he remains a Phd Clinician at heart, is exactly what draws me, and countless others, to him!

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-25-2019 11:30 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Usually when he's asked about his criticism of the radical left, he often cites the history of the 20th century (communism) as his objection.

JP hardly ever mentions the alt right in his lectures or interviews, unless someone specifically asks him about them.

I have a feeling that his critics, including this fellow Jan Irvin (never heard of him) never actually watch or read anything JP produces. It's all soundbites and gossips they're quoting.

I'm already on record as saying his psychology stuff is great but anything of his related remotely to politics is generic boomer basic-bitch bullshit.

Unfortunately in this social environment he's determined that the bulk of his celebri-bucks are going to come from politics so AFAIC the bulk of his message is generic boomer basic-bitch bullshit.

He chose this.

Is Joe Rogan a great fighter? Undoubtedly. He competed at high levels. On the other hand IMO he's a mediocre drugged out radio host at best who's allowed to keep his platform because the powers that be are invested in using him as a line of demarcation between acceptable and unacceptable content.

You could say "Joe Rogan is a great man, he fought tons of dudes and won a lot of the time", and I'd reply "sure, but now he's chosen to become a mediocre drugged out radio host and as such that's what I define him as".

So when you say "Jordan Peterson is a great clinical psychologist" I'll say "sure, but now he's chosen to become a generic basic-bitch boomer political commentator who's allowed to keep his platform because the powers that be are invested in using him as a line of demarcation between acceptable and unacceptable content, and as such that's what I define him as."

He chose the dirty path of political hot-topics to reach for celebrity instead of sticking to what he was good at, and now that he's lost his grip on the tiger's tail he gets the teeth like everyone else.

Tough shit. If people call him a gutless faggot for any number of perfectly valid reasons then he can cry himself to sleep on his big pile of money. He doesn't need you to shield him with your fandom.

edit: Looking back, how much of this thread is just a ridiculous debate on the un-debatable? Peterson is great on psychology and a moronic boomer when it comes to politics. These things are not mutually exclusive.

[Easy_C]

(03-25-2019 11:30 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Usually when he's asked about his criticism of the radical left, he often cites the history of the 20th century (communism) as his objection.

JP hardly ever mentions the alt right in his lectures or interviews, unless someone specifically asks him about them.

I have a feeling that his critics, including this fellow Jan Irvin (never heard of him) never actually watch or read anything JP produces. It's all soundbites and gossips they're quoting.

Jan Irvin is the guy who dug up how the hippie revolution was "led" by a bunch of guys who were all admitted intel agents.

[Aurini]

(03-26-2019 08:46 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

edit: Looking back, how much of this thread is just a ridiculous debate on the un-debatable? Peterson is great on psychology and a moronic boomer when it comes to politics. These things are not mutually exclusive.

The Halo Effect.

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The affect heuristic is how an overall feeling of goodness or badness contributes to many other judgments, whether it’s logical or not, whether you’re aware of it or not. Subjects told about the benefits of nuclear power are likely to rate it as having fewer risks; stock analysts rating unfamiliar stocks judge them as generally good or generally bad—low risk and high returns, or high risk and low returns—in defiance of ordinary economic theory, which says that risk and return should correlate positively.

[Blaster]

(03-25-2019 05:58 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Fair bet, if you asked fake news media folk to accurately & genuinely define - "alt-right", they'd be unable to do so.

True but they would have the appearance of an answer. They'd ramble and be sure to mention Racism, Anti-Semitism, White Supremacists, and Neo-Nazis. And probably Trump.

[Blaster]

(03-25-2019 01:42 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 12:50 PM)Blaster Wrote:  

(03-23-2019 10:23 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Peterson: "I'm not alt-right, pleeeeaasse belieeeeve meeeee!!!!"

Media: Laughs

Are you suggesting that Peterson should just bend over and take it when the media outright lies about him, then? What is the point of this post?

The point is that it's hilarious that the media can make Peterson dance like a monkey every time they toss out a casual reference to him being alt-right or "aligned".

The correct response is to shrug your shoulders or maybe start a law suit. It takes the media 5 minutes to accuse him and it takes him 5 weeks to recover, after which he always looks like a bitch anyway.

Hardly. You just think he looks like a bitch because you're extremely biased against anything he does. You characterize his post as whining, but I don't see it that way at all. And in pointing out Vox Day's book to his own audience he brings attention and clarity to anyone who might have been confused about the issue.

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But such is the life of celebrities who both fail to tow the progressive line AND refuse to draw the connections of who's pushing what and why. Peterson wont hit back in any meaningful way, which is why the media will continue to spend that 5 minutes every 5 weeks to slander him and watch him chase his tail.

You aren't actually saying anything of substance here.

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Being a public figure doesn't mean you need to engage with every shit-tier journalist that takes a shot at you. It only lends those shit-tier journalists credibility.

He lost a fellowship, likely as a consequence of lying dishonest journalism. Responding to an article with a single tweet is not "engaging with every shit-tier journalist that takes a shot at you."

[Geomann180]

(03-22-2019 09:04 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Jordan Peterson, clearly butthurt, writes a thousand words after being de-platformed by Cambridge Divinity School
Vox Day fans: "Lol such a gamma male."

Vox Day, clearly butthurt, writes an entire book about Jordan Peterson
Vox Day fans: "Oh Vox you are the greatest!" *sucking noises*

Little known fact - Vox Day fans invented the "deepthroat" genre of adult entertainment.

G

[BortimusPrime]

(03-24-2019 10:37 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Here we go again, Vox Day and his obsession with diagnosing everyone he doesn't like as Gamma. Which makes him sound exactly like the Gamma he so despises. Ironically he's trying to psycho-analyse a world-renown clinical psychologist... Completely out of his depth as usual.

No but you see Vox identifies as a Sigma. According to him people desperately fling themselves at him demanding his wisdom, attention, and for him to join their groups, but he's just too much of an independent rebel for all that stuff. And he could beat up anyone if he wanted to, is a self-proclaimed genius, and invented all of the computer games...and so on...

[Leonard D Neubache]

I think we should combine the Vox Day and Jordan Peterson threads and take this bitch to the next level.

[Geomann180]

(03-28-2019 05:31 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I think we should combine the Vox Day and Jordan Peterson threads and take this bitch to the next level.

I thought that was what the gamma megathread was for?

G

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-29-2019 04:19 AM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 05:31 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I think we should combine the Vox Day and Jordan Peterson threads and take this bitch to the next level.

I thought that was what the gamma megathread was for?

G

Begin the Great Convergence™.

The thread cage match battle royale.

[Tex Cruise]

Vox Day's 3 threads totalling 14 pages vs Peterson's 122 page Chad Monster Thunderthread?

Day has written a 223 page book and countless blog posts about Peterson. Peterson has written a couple of tweets about Day.
There's no contest as to who the secret king is.

All Hail.

[Easy_C]

(03-27-2019 03:42 PM)BortimusPrime Wrote:  

(03-24-2019 10:37 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Here we go again, Vox Day and his obsession with diagnosing everyone he doesn't like as Gamma. Which makes him sound exactly like the Gamma he so despises. Ironically he's trying to psycho-analyse a world-renown clinical psychologist... Completely out of his depth as usual.

No but you see Vox identifies as a Sigma. According to him people desperately fling themselves at him demanding his wisdom, attention, and for him to join their groups, but he's just too much of an independent rebel for all that stuff. And he could beat up anyone if he wanted to, is a self-proclaimed genius, and invented all of the computer games...and so on...

Vox day is the kind of person who makes a public front of hating Rick and Morty but secretly thinks he's exactly like Rick.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(03-29-2019 04:19 AM)Geomann180 Wrote:  

(03-28-2019 05:31 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I think we should combine the Vox Day and Jordan Peterson threads and take this bitch to the next level.

I thought that was what the gamma megathread was for?

G

You'd probably need to rename it to the Gamma Colossusthread