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Why does Germany get overlooked?
#51

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Quote: (09-03-2012 06:19 AM)jackson.henley Wrote:  

True, the fact that many men died after 1945 and the women had to clean up most of the city and engage in physical labor has a lot to do with who German women are now.

I think the reasons are largely socio-cultural and German women (and men) just reflect the (traditional and contemporary) attitude of the powerful German state. It's self-perpetuating. All their arrogance and smart attitude is larger ideological mirror reflecting back. If the German men and women were any less tough and if they were more cool, happenin' and laid back, Germany simply wouldn't be what it is today and it would be more like Italy, Portugal or Jamaica. That's why Germans aren't so easily superficial, and why they walk around with cucumbers shoved up their ass.
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#52

Why does Germany get overlooked?

And for the record, I had decent to extensive experience with German women in Germany and abroad (Mediterranean, Asia and North America). Sure, their default attitude leaves much to be desired, but at least I know where I stand straight up and don't take it personally since more or less they all exhibit similar attitude traits with anyone.

Otherwise, and in my experience, they have sporty/athletic bodies (or bodies that look like they were as such a short time ago), they also have nice teeth, clear skin, and nonconformist and nonchalant/liberal attitude regarding their own bodies and nudity (ex. brushing their teeth topless and in a pair of underwear in a hostel co-ed bathroom). As for sex, they are easily up for anything (and more), including humiliation, golden showers, s/m, threesomes, and (semi) public bjs and fucking.
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#53

Why does Germany get overlooked?

As a half-German, these are my problems with German women (at least in the part of Germany where I live)...

Many of them are masculine...

Chubbiness is relatively widespread; women who are packing a few extra kilos still wear tight clothing, shamelessly showing off their lovehandles...

Most of them can't flirt for shit...

General demeanor I usually find to be a turn-off; for reasons I find hard to explain, I often have the impression I'm talking to a guy friend of mine when I have a conversation with them.

(In Southern Germany): Bavarian and Franconian accents have to be some of the least sexy forms of communication in the world. You can't imagine how disappointing it is to spot a hot woman walking by, go up and to talk to her, and the moment she opens her mouth she sounds like a potato farmer.

That's not to say they don't make good friends, but I'm not into most of them as sexual partners.
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#54

Why does Germany get overlooked?

What are all you guys doing in some smalltime rural shithole in the first place? Its like living in little Bumfuckville, Wisconsin and you wonder why it sucks!? You need to visit some real cities to know whats up.
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#55

Why does Germany get overlooked?

my purpose is only to toss in pictures.
Of course youre gonna have some weirdos like this
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but overall..german chicks arent to bad
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I think the idea that german girls are on the stocky side isnt true..as least not at the levels that people mention.

They arent are stunners..but they arent all sloppy
They have a bad rep or being very formal, or having bad manners(especially when traveling)
Ill admit they are getting fatter..but you can say that about every modern place now a days

I think alot of people simply havent spent enough time in the country or get frustrated easily to have a good idea.

I downright hate paris and france in general..but lots of other people rave about it

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#56

Why does Germany get overlooked?

I wrote this along time ago,but never posted it here. I'd be dumb to make a whole nother thread.
But here are more of my thoughts on germans.

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Time
The stereotype that Germans are very timely is false in my opinion. Lots of Germans are often just at late as anyone else and even if you set a time..they might not be one time.

But when the tables turn and they want you to be on time..then they get antsy and play the ditch game.
Ex:
Last summer I spent time with a German family and on multiple occasions I was left to run and catch up or find my own way somewhere over time frames as short as a minute.
The host left me at least twice over last minute things like..
I have to take a trip the the bathroom.. just wait 2 minutes.
When I come back..they are gone and I get a text that they couldn't wait for me..!!!
Two fucking minutes?! I'm almost sure that if I wasn't family they would leave me in a truck stop bathroom because I spend a minute to fold the woodchip toilet paper in the bathroom.

Other times I have been rushed, to come outside, when all I wanna do is put my jacket one

Arguments and Fights
I don't wanna be politically incorrect(an asshole)..but after you get your ass handed to you in a couple wars, you learn to sit down and shut the fuck up.
I assume Germans have been reprogrammed since the Nazi era to diffuse fights, rather than finish them.
Too many times I have gotten near to the point of an argument only to have Germans back down when I raise my voice.
I'm far from intimidating, but I've never even got into a shoving match with anyone.

As a matter of fact, I've figured out the best way to end a argument or fight is simply to sit down and call the bluff.
I simply tell the person something along the lines of;
Its a bad idea for you to fight me.
All at the same time I smiley and take steps back.
This happened just the other night.
* This may not have been the best thing to do, but no one is perfect*
a small cardboard coaster was thrown in a beer hall..
It might have been at me...or just random.
Thinking nothing of it..I picked it up and tossed it back where I thought it came from. It may or may not have hit a group of guys sitting around drinking. But they felt threatened and came over to confront me. About 4 of them corner me.

In any other country I would prepare my fist and start eyeing heavy item near me in case something happens.
But In Germany...I simple turned around and sat back at my table.

I even told the group I was with to ignore them also..don't try to hold them back. In the end, it's unlikely that any of the four with throw a punch.
It's not in the culture to be confrontational like that.
If they did...that punch better knock me out...but I don't have a problem taking risk
As I predicted..they were utterly confused at my unwillingness to even acknowledge and seconds later..walked back to there seats to whisper about me our of earshot


Not standing up for you're women

The men of the country are lame

This is a phenomenon that I'm gonna have to research some more. For the time being, Every case I have been part of has ended the same.
I dub it "Dear in the Headlights Syndrome"
This is when you are so utterly confused that you just stand from afar without a clue what to do.
Being the social person that I am (and the fact that lots of beautiful girls are never alone)
I often walk into groups of people to talk too..I may or may not be set on getting the girl, but often times that's what happens.
So far I've noticed three steps that Germans take to stop me and they all follow the same timeline
1.Become friendly with me
I don't have a clue in hell why you would be nice to the guy trying to take your girl
This sometimes works if the guy is so nice and talkative that I get tired of his voice, realized the girls aren't worth it and leave..but 90 percent of the time..I tune it out.
2. Give a back handed compliment
This is understandable..try to say something to make me look bad. It may or may not work..but if anyone catches it..you look like a dick because you were already being nice to me.
*This is where the failure is..You chose the wrong steps to stop me and now I will punish you for it.
3. Make excuse to cause everyone to leave.
The guy falls sicks, or says he wants to go. Anything to make the whole group leave.
This works if the guy has his plan tight and can get everyone to move fast.
But sometimes it works against him and he provides a venue change. He may think I've become the satellite of the group..but in reality i'm just taking time to get fresh air.


Here are a couple example cases
Group of 3 girls and two guys:
One guy is pretty drunk..the other one is getting there.
I start talking to the girls and even include the guys in the conversations..I slowly escalate to putting my hands around the girl..and they guys notice..but they don't react.
I've done nothing mean spirited to the guys..but he seems to be utterly confused how I got my hand around the girl and even more confused one how I'm able to keep it there.
It may not have been his girlfriend..but if a random guys steals one of the girls in my group..words will be exchanged and he has to go.
It might be cockblocking...but at the same time.. A shepherd must protect his flock
The guy first tried to befriend me...but never dropped a back handed compliment
Instead he wanted to leave..and the girls dragged us to another club..where he eventually got lost in the crowd and I made out with the girl

Group of 2 girls 2 guys.
This was a bold move that I was rewarded for.
I opened a group that to this day..I could have been 2 couples.
This time both guys went through steps...one applauded me and befriended me
The second one dropped the back handed compliments.
all this happen in an area so small that the guy had to graze me to get a better position.
Within 5 minutes I was teacher the girl, he brought out, the proper way to use her tongue and the enjoyment that one ET finger and bring to a clitoris
I knew I wasn't taking her home..but I was rewarding myself and emasculating the man for his comments.
Eventually he pull his head out of the lights and said he wanted to go home..and being the driver..he held the keys

Dinner party group
While the girlfriend was initially quiet..she warmed up after a couple shots and when we all went downtown..
despite my efforts to not show her attention she repeatedly left her boyfriend to talk to me..and even when I walked ahead to get in front of the pack..his girlfriend latched onto my arm like a child.
I took the whole group to a bar that i'm a regular at and social proof..I was given a couple shots on the host.
I could see the looks in the boyfriends eyes..and I stopped talking to his girlfriend out of respect.
He skipped ever step and went to the last..he eventually picked up and walked off, leaving me with one friend.
I'll give them the benefit of doubt that it was loud in the whole districts..but the other half of the group never returned our phone calls when we tried to meet back up.

My logical thought would have been to tell my girlfriend I didn't appreciate her latching onto some other guy. Or squash the shit right there.
But germans(on average) just wont do it.

Thats why i felt gaming in germany wast very hard..and girls were pretty open.
the guys in the countrie dont provide any authority

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#57

Why does Germany get overlooked?

@Source:
An Argentino friend of mine, who lived quite some time here in Germany once came to the conclusion: " The German girls are not the problem its the men." and I completely agree. Your average german dude is no natural born player...
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#58

Why does Germany get overlooked?

open hostility usually is frowned upon in germany, most act along the common social rules - violence is low-class behavior at least for civilized people. a lot of people are partying with their social circle (friends, boy/girlfriends) and dont want to tell you to fuck off. some circles are very "closed" so they engage other strategies to get rid of you. some dont mind and are genuinely friendly. all depends on your act.
you have to play these games as a german social circle "outsider" too. win the circle, then the girl. if you "brake" the rules gently and slip through the invisible walls, there are good oppurtunities to score some ass. if you want more masculine competition go to a russian disco in germany

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#59

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Some remarks on Germany:
1.German girls only date guys of the same age or 1-2 years older at maximum.You see couples with a super hot model looking 19 years old girl who in Italy or Greece would be accompanied by a thirty sth or even 40 sth guy with money(let alone in Ukraine) and in Germany she dates the schoolmate of the same age I mean if you come from Mediteranean countries you think German women undedate.
2.German clubs care for the appropriate clientelle.You cannot be dressed like a rocker and get to a techno club or be an indy and hit a Goth club.All subcultures are clearly delineated meaning you have to fit in place.You cannot enter just because there are hot girls inside.
This is also due to the German mentality of extremes.In Germany there is no average.There are only extremes.They do not care to conform.
3.You cannot buy German girls with drinks etc.Offering a drink means that you degrade her to Weibchen status(woman with very small value and feminine role)
4.Your value is by and large determined by the degree of Germanization you carry and your ancestry.(do you belong to middle class in your country?Do you speak good German?).These are important factors.German women hate sleazy Mediteraneans or cheap compliments and hate superficial comments.They want deep conversations.
5.German women have very high IQ.This puts men with low IQ immediately out.German women do not make compromises like polish girls who can date men dumber than them.

So imagine the average Balkan guy.He hardly passes any of the criteria(does not belong to a certain tribe,does not have the appropritae age,does not posess the desired degree of Germanization,has ancestry from low class,lower IQ on average than Germans) he is completely doomed.He does not need to try because he will fail as most Kanaken.
So you have to work out a way to bypass all these difficulties or simply avoid German women alltogether and go polish,Russian etc.(the easy solution,there are large minorities from Eastern Europe in Germany almost completely untouched since Germans do not mix with Slavs in appropriate degree according to their subpopulation in Germany.They also do not mix with Turks,the mixed marriages between Germans and Turks are negligible-it is preservation of Germantum and one can be benefited by the lack of interest for slavic resources).
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#60

Why does Germany get overlooked?


I understand youre still pushing your polish/russian thing.
But you're wrong in a couple areas

1German girls..will date out of their age range..they date up.
Ive seen many a couple where the man is a good 5 years older than the girl.
from 16-17 year old girls daing 21+ to girls in early twenties dating guys in their 30s
But no..You wont see a 18 year old hanging around a 40 year old.

2.There is no extremes in Germany..
If anything..everyone IS conformed and most people will generally look similar in terms of dress(per age)
Yes..there are some odd rock,goth people..maybe you would feel that they dressed extreme is you never saw it before.

Ive gotten into many clubs and bars with the same dress..
Even as a person that stands out alot..there isnt a big difference in where you can an cant go.

3.This is true..you cant buy german girls with drinks..and you will never need to anyway.
Germans dont fall for gift giving..they make enough money on their own to pay what they want.
I dont why the idea of giftgiving should even play in.

4.Germanization.
yes..German girls arent gonna easily get into long turn relationships or marry some random turksih or mediteranean guy.
But they will fuck.
I know way to many girls that are off fucking the ugliest or foreign guys(or good looking ones)
but would never marry.
Thats no difference.
White girls in america are out fucking black,mexicans just as much..but only bring their own kind home.

5. In my opinion..no girl wants a complete airhead of a guy.
everything (many) of us relate to in game is based around the girl thinking we have a much higher worth than her.

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#61

Why does Germany get overlooked?

VERY true statement, German women aren't exactly that great at flirting-however at the same time they will also be more direct/open as long as you don't look like Chewbacca.

Quote: (09-03-2012 09:00 AM)Sargon of Akkad Wrote:  

As a half-German, these are my problems with German women (at least in the part of Germany where I live)...

Many of them are masculine...

Chubbiness is relatively widespread; women who are packing a few extra kilos still wear tight clothing, shamelessly showing off their lovehandles...

Most of them can't flirt for shit...

General demeanor I usually find to be a turn-off; for reasons I find hard to explain, I often have the impression I'm talking to a guy friend of mine when I have a conversation with them.

(In Southern Germany): Bavarian and Franconian accents have to be some of the least sexy forms of communication in the world. You can't imagine how disappointing it is to spot a hot woman walking by, go up and to talk to her, and the moment she opens her mouth she sounds like a potato farmer.

That's not to say they don't make good friends, but I'm not into most of them as sexual partners.
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#62

Why does Germany get overlooked?

GREAT examples of average german girls. OKish to chubby body (no tits!) and ugly face.
Personally i feel as much sexual attraction to those girls as i feel towards a piece of furniture. But if they get you hard you can have a great time here as you will see alot of those.

Also notice their lack of "aura", there is not a hint of sexuality or femininity about these chicks. They seem "bland" in a way or "neutral", i dont really know how to describe it.

The brunette one in the last pic on the left is the only one i would be remotely interested in.

And you just KNOW the girls suck if you have to add a disclaimer that the girls "arent too bad".
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#63

Why does Germany get overlooked?

I can't say I'd go after the girls posted in the pics above, especially if they had that "vibe" that turns me off about a lot of German girls.

Then again, I admit this mainly my own subjective preference. I don't really think the majority of German girls are objectively "ugly" (whatever that means), but most of them just don't do it for me. It's mainly due to their vibe, which, to me at least, just comes across as bland, neutral (w00t put it well), and slightly masculine. I big turn off. Other guys, I can understand, would be into these girls and would likely see things differently.

As for me: most girls I date over here are foreign students. Haven't felt much of a need to change my habits so far.
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#64

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Quote: (09-03-2012 10:53 AM)Sourcecode Wrote:  

I downright hate paris and france in general..but lots of other people rave about it

I'm curious. What don't you like about paris/france?

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#65

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Germanic girls in Athens.

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#66

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Quote: (08-24-2011 07:20 PM)Mace Wrote:  

Why does Germany get overlooked?

german girls get overlooked cuz they overlook everyone. simple truth.. theyre just not into hooking up with american guys. i cant explain why though.. they come to america to explore everything america has to offer except the dating scene. theyre also clannish.. they mostly date their own kind. i also percieve that they get scared very easily, so insecurity is also a factor in their culture.
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#67

Why does Germany get overlooked?

The best is to hit Poland or CR, become horny and then visit Germany.In this case you will find German girls interesting for one week at least.When your penis falls of again,visit Poland once again.It is the only way to keep interested in women in Germany.Otherwise they will soon make to you the same impression with dudes that is zero effect.
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#68

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Quote: (09-05-2012 12:35 AM)obla Wrote:  

theyre just not into hooking up with american guys.
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theyre also clannish.. they mostly date their own kind.

Not true at all. It depends on the type of girl in question. Some are into Americans (this is mainly true for the hiphop crowd), some are into Turks (also the hiphop crowd), some are into Italians and Spaniards, others are into Black guys. Many just don't care either way. I've never met a single girl over here who said she was would ONLY date German men (saying so, she'd risk being called a Nazi, which most Gemans will avoid at all costs).

It should be noted, however, that by and large, they're not used to being hit on by strangers, and if you do so, they'll usually be stunned and react negatively. A lot of Germans in mid-sized cities hook up almost exclusively through their social circles, and hitting on women on the street or going out to a bar/club with the main intention of hooking up is just a foreign concept to many (both male and female).
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#69

Why does Germany get overlooked?

The ladder that Germans use(from highest to lowest order):
1.Germans(they are considered the most reliable,hard working,ethical,effective),English(they have great respect for the English,who they regard as achievers)
2.Germanics(Austrians,Swiss)(they are considered variety of Germans more soft),Scandinavians(they are considered effective although largely benefited by land resources,too much land too few people)
3.Americans(considered weak country with lots of problems which tries to pass their problems to the rest in order to cover them)
4.Mediteraneans(considered weak,easily scared and unreliable.Dubious ethics.Most imprortantly weak,fags)
5.Slavs(sly,unstable,not trustworthy,often drunk.Russians are considered totaly different civilization from European.There is hate towards them and some fear).

6.Balkans(considered thugs,criminals,low lives.Germans do not forget that Serbs exterminated 200000 Germans in Yugoslavia in the last days of WW2 as a revenge and so the German minority in Yugoslavia got wiped out completely.This was far worse than what the Czechs and the Poles did to them).
7.Turks(the lowest of the low.They are not even allowed to integrate.Considered totally unfit for European customs.Germans basically want to throw all of them out and replace with Slavs and Mediteraneans if possible).Turks do not respect the German law because they regard themselves as superior to Westerners and Germans punish them hard(only 5% of turkish population or less attends university and the second generation mostly do not speak German although they were born in Germany).

More or less the above is the same ladder German women use when dealing with foreigners.
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#70

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Greek Kamaki is on spot, anyway a lot of German girls have a soft spot for Southern Europe and Mediteraneans guys.

Especially in the past italian latin lovers or kamakis from Greece had a lot of success with German girls

Her pussy tastes like Pepsi Cola...
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#71

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Yes,Italian guys from northern Italy have quite a lot of success with German girls who visit cities like Florenc,Verona.I witnessed this.Italians have sophistication sth that Germans lack and often catch German women off guard.
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#72

Why does Germany get overlooked?

As a Slav I've never felt even a hint of negativity; what I do, however, is say "I'm from Prag" when asked as many if not most Western Europeans like Prague a lot. A different story with Russians though. At any rate Germany is a federation of states and your experience will vary state-by-state.
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#73

Why does Germany get overlooked?

Czechs are different case.They are considered half Germanics prone to Germanization.Germans view them with sympathy.Russians,Ukrainians not so.With Poles there is always tension.
I did not mention Czechs because they are exception.They also view differently southern Italians from northern Italians and have fixed views on Hungary.Generally Germans know their neighbours quite well and have good understanding of Balkans(good information).
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#74

Why does Germany get overlooked?

I wonder what could their problem with Poles be though, Kamaki? From what I remember from school Poles should have a problem with Germans and not vice versa. And talking to a couple of them has confirmed this to me although that does not prevent them from coming to DE and working here.

Which reminds me I've got to visit some Polish party here to see the talent.
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#75

Why does Germany get overlooked?

There is tension.I felt that when I talked to some polish girls in Berlin metro in polish and all Germans immediately looked at me.Also when I was talking with a polish girl in Athens and a pair of Germans looked at us with anger.I am not sure why this happens Germans should move towards reconciliation.I guess their media presented a rather negative image of polish till recently.
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