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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"
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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

< And I might add - this is a mere formality for Americans - VISA will be granted to everyone contrary to what I have heard to Eastern Europeans. They have to convince the official that they are well-off enough and are not at risk of staying illegally in the US. Many are denied a VISA and cannot enter. If only they knew that they had to take a flight to Mexico and stroll over the border after getting a nice tan.
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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

Quote: (04-08-2017 02:50 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

< And I might add - this is a mere formality for Americans - VISA will be granted to everyone contrary to what I have heard to Eastern Europeans. They have to convince the official that they are well-off enough and are not at risk of staying illegally in the US. Many are denied a VISA and cannot enter. If only they knew that they had to take a flight to Mexico and stroll over the border after getting a nice tan.

You guys ,how do you not see a bottleneck like this is good for us? Those who really want to come can come to Europe, the rest will say back in Merka.


Tourists ,if too many really do seem like locusts to locals.
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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

Yup, not worried at all: if it's ever enforced fewer locusts and more fun for all those really determined to have fun in the EU. Simple as that.

Visas were never effective in stopping me from going where I wanted to go if I had made my mind I had to go to a certain place.. And were never even effective in preventing me to stay LEGALLY as well, if so I chose.. You can almost always find a way if you're really serious about visiting or living in a place.

I honestly could care rest about the "rest of the tourists" and some other financial considerations would be extremely debatable (and inflammatory) at best. The rest seems a bit of what I'd call "touristic darwinism".
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#79

Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

This story is still fake news.

A month after the vote took place, the EU Commission has yet to act on it.

Until they do (spoiler alert: they won't), Americans can still travel to Europe visa-free.

And again, given that Schengen enforcement is left up to each individual country, there will be massive variance on how the directive is enforced IF it ever goes into effect. See my post here on my experience entering Hungary for an example of this.

Given how rapidly the EU is collapsing, the Schengen Area will almost certainly be gone sometime in the next ten years, so this vote was just a dying institution trying to convince people that it's still relevant.
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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

Any update on this?
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#81

Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

Yes, the European Commission decided in May to not follow through with requiring visas for Americans, of course, and the U.S. still decides which E.U. countries will get visa waiver here, as it should be.

Americans are dreamers too
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Article: "EU lawmakers vote to scrap visa-free travel for Americans to Europe"

Quote: (06-11-2017 03:37 AM)Rossi Wrote:  

Any update on this?

Looks like the European Commission approved it at last. Posting the text as Washington Post forces users to disable ad blockers.

Looks like the visas will be very similar to that which Russian citizens use to apply for a Cyprus visa - do it online and show proof of a hotel reservation. It is even free there, hope the EU keeps it free too. Also, to confuse us - the EC is going full Orwell trying to call this system as "not being a visa."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/201...7eccba9e8d


By Lindsey Bever


March 9
Starting in 2021, Americans and travelers from other visa-free countries will have to take an extra step when visiting more than two dozen countries in Europe.

The European Union announced last year that before travel, visitors from all visa-free countries, including the United States, will need to complete an online application and pay a small fee using the European Travel Information and Authorization System (ETIAS) designed “to strengthen security checks on those persons who travel visa-free to the EU,” according to a fact sheet from the European Commission. It applies to people traveling to Europe’s Schengen Zone, an area comprising 26 countries, including France, Germany and Spain, but not Britain.

U.S. citizens with a valid U.S. passport can visit Schengen countries and stay for up to 90 days without a visa, according to the State Department.
This week, news outlets including CNN, Esquire and Travel & Leisure initially called the process starting in 2021 a visa, but government authorities said it is not one. With ETIAS, travelers will need documentation, such as a passport, and will be asked to complete an application online and pay a $7 fee; in an expected 95 percent of cases, approval will be granted in minutes, the fact sheet said.

Officials with the European Commission and the U.S. State Department, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak freely on the process, confirmed that ETIAS is simply a travel authorization for visa-free visitors, similar to the U.S. Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) to screen people in the Visa Waiver Program (VWP).

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The reports appeared to lead to confusion online.

Wait, what now? All Americans going to Europe after 2021 will need to register first for a visa! ETIAS Visa for Americans | https://t.co/ZWfBNo7qd8
— Raju Narisetti (@raju) March 8, 2019


The E.U. delegation to the United States tried to clear it up.

A spokesman for the commission said the E.U. decided to establish the ETIAS in summer 2018.

In 2016, the European Commission proposed ETIAS, “an automated IT system created to identify any security or irregular migratory risks posed by visa-exempt visitors travelling to the Schengen area, while at the same time facilitate border crossings for the vast majority of travelers who do not pose such risks,” according to the fact sheet, which the commission released in July.

It added:

The ETIAS authorisation is not a visa. Nationals of visa liberalisation countries will continue to travel the EU without a visa but will simply be required to obtain a travel authorisation via ETIAS prior to their travel. ETIAS will be a simple, fast and visitor-friendly system, which will, in more than 95% of cases, result in a positive answer within a few minutes.

An ETIAS travel authorisation does not reintroduce visa-like obligations. There is no need to go to a consulate to make an application, no biometric data is collected and significantly less information is gathered than during a visa application procedure. Whereas, as a general rule, a Schengen visa procedure can take up to 15 days, and can in some cases be extended up to 30 or 60 days, the online ETIAS application only takes a few minutes to fill in. The validity will be for a period of three years, significantly longer than the validity of a Schengen visa. An ETIAS authorisation will be valid for an unlimited number of entries.

The ETIAS travel authorisation will be a necessary and small procedural step for all visa-exempt travellers which will allow them to avoid bureaucracy and delays when presenting themselves at the borders. ETIAS will fully respect this visa-free status; facilitate the crossing of the Schengen external border; and allow visa free visitors to fully enjoy their status.

It is not entirely certain why ETIAS has been characterized as a visa program, but the travel agency ETIASVisa.com stated on its website that “US citizens traveling to Europe will shortly need to apply for an ETIAS (European Travel Information and Authorization System) visa which is the new travel visa to visit Europe that will come into effect from 2021. Similar to other countries and regions in the world Europe has recently decided to improve their security level to avoid any further problems with illegal migration and terrorism. This means that from 2021, all Americans traveling to a European Schengen-zone country will be in need of an ETIAS.”

President Trump has called for a re-examination of the visa process that allows skilled workers to work in the U.S. (Daron Taylor/The Washington Post)

At least one news outlet linked to information from ETIASVisa.com while citing the European Union.

ETIASVisa.com states that it is a travel agency and is “not affiliated with any European Government.”

Travelers will not need to use a travel agency to apply but can do it themselves online.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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