[John Michael Kane]

How do we know this is the guy? Has he been arrested? So easy for people to point anything these days online, so hard to confirm until after the dust has settled down. Regardless if you like Spencer or hate him, we need to stop the vandalism and unprovoked assaults on other citizens. This has to end, and I hope with a Trump DOJ, he'll give the needed muscle to the cops to crack down on the troublemakers. I think he made a point of calling out the cops as the good guys, because he knew if he won, he'd need their help making sure the assholes who commit violent crime get tossed in the slammer.

[weambulance]

No, he's right, all white people are secretly working together so clearly Spencer hired this guy to give him a love tap on camera.

And Trayvon was just a sweet 12 year old picking up some skittles after choir practice, gunned down in cold blood.

[Kona]

(01-20-2017 11:21 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

How do we know this is the guy? Has he been arrested? So easy for people to point anything these days online, so hard to confirm until after the dust has settled down.

Well Richard Spencers twitter linked the picture. Whatever that's called I think retweeting.

Does it not seem odd to anyone else that the guy wasn't caught, with cops and cameras everywhere?

There is more to this.

Aloha!

[John Michael Kane]

The original video was so short, it wasn't exactly clear where the attacker headed after the punch impacted. Doesn't appear to be any police around when it happened, or they just ignored it.

[Kona]

(01-20-2017 11:28 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

No, he's right, all white people are secretly working together so clearly Spencer hired this guy to give him a love tap on camera.

And Trayvon was just a sweet 12 year old picking up some skittles after choir practice, gunned down in cold blood.

This happened on a huge news day, when every American is looking at news websites. It happened on a day when that cityis the most cop and camera filled city in the world.

And it happened a few days after spencers website launched and needs to get some serious views.

Do people ever do wacky things to get viral videos going?

Trayvon was just an innocent kid and Spencer was just doing a big cheers to the crowd, not the heil hitler.

I'm a grown man, this is marketing 101. Just because he has this sacred and noble cause of white whatever, doesn't mean he's above basic publicity stunts.

Have a nice day.

Aloha!

[TheBMan]

(01-20-2017 11:17 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 11:06 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Between BLM, J20, Soros et all, we've had too much mayhem. Time to bring back some Law and Order.

Well it appears as though the Richard Spencer Puncher has been identified, and it is a white male.

[url=https://twitter.com/draknats/status/822552258168627202][/url]

They shot Trayvon for wearing a hoodie.

Also, the punching is on every major news website there is. This was a premeditated attack.

"This is what controlled opposition looks like" - Mike Cernovich

Aloha!

See, this is the difference - as a Conservative white male - I dont give a flying fuck what color he is, I hope he gets the living shit kicked out of him for acting like a fucking cheap shot throwing bitch ass and I wont sit here and make excuses about how its justified, validated, or ok. I'd gladly curb stomp him because I think he deserves it, regardless of whether he's white, black, asian, or hispanic.

[TheBMan]

(01-20-2017 11:30 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 11:21 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

How do we know this is the guy? Has he been arrested? So easy for people to point anything these days online, so hard to confirm until after the dust has settled down.

Well Richard Spencers twitter linked the picture. Whatever that's called I think retweeting.

Does it not seem odd to anyone else that the guy wasn't caught, with cops and cameras everywhere?

There is more to this.

Aloha!

As I mentioned before, I was in the middle of this chaos this afternoon and saw one of these fucks steal a MAGA flag and vanish. It takes about 1 or 2 seconds to truly process what just happened and figure out who did it and where the came from. When you are in a crowded street full of enemy combatants all dressed the same its easier said then done to just grab the guilty party.

[Atlanta Man]

(01-20-2017 11:17 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Would be funny if it comes out that one of his own supporters punched him to help him get publicity. You can see that the attacker is white.

^^^^This. Richard just so happened to be filming a documentary when this occurred,what are the chances?

[Delta]

"WHITE LIVES MATTER TOO MUCH"? What is that even supposed to mean?

These are some deranged motherfuckers.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(01-21-2017 01:04 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 11:17 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Would be funny if it comes out that one of his own supporters punched him to help him get publicity. You can see that the attacker is white.

^^^^This. Richard just so happened to be filming a documentary when this occurred,what are the chances?

Chances are pretty damn good. Lots of anti-Trump people are white. Spencer was in the middle of a protest, surrounded by people who hate him.

[Atlanta Man]

" Insults were avenged with violence in the Old South. I don’t have to tell you the things that were done to protect White womanhood in those days. A generation of Southerners marched off to war in 1861 in no small part because of the South’s traditional honor culture. Unlike the political correctness I had been exposed to my entire life, the Southern honor culture felt true to me. This was my real culture." Altright.com

Richard Spencer's own website says this. He wants to be a tough guy, he should be ready then. I have never supported violence and never will, Spencer wants violence-it is coming his way, he should prepare. He cannot Nazi LARP a fist fight, I hope his boyfriend fights better than him, he should date Jack Donovan for protection.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(01-21-2017 03:20 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

" Insults were avenged with violence in the Old South. I don’t have to tell you the things that were done to protect White womanhood in those days. A generation of Southerners marched off to war in 1861 in no small part because of the South’s traditional honor culture. Unlike the political correctness I had been exposed to my entire life, the Southern honor culture felt true to me. This was my real culture." Altright.com

Richard Spencer's own website says this. He wants to be a tough guy, he should be ready then. I have never supported violence and never will, Spencer wants violence-it is coming his way, he should prepare. He cannot Nazi LARP a fist fight, I hope his boyfriend fights better than him, he should date Jack Donovan for protection.

The guy ran off. Chasing him and trying to beat him would be risky, stupid, and probably illegal, especially when you consider he's surrounded by hostile protestors.

For the love of god stop making me defend Richard Spencer.

[Last Parade]

[weambulance]

(01-21-2017 12:17 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 11:28 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

No, he's right, all white people are secretly working together so clearly Spencer hired this guy to give him a love tap on camera.

And Trayvon was just a sweet 12 year old picking up some skittles after choir practice, gunned down in cold blood.

This happened on a huge news day, when every American is looking at news websites. It happened on a day when that cityis the most cop and camera filled city in the world.

And it happened a few days after spencers website launched and needs to get some serious views.

Do people ever do wacky things to get viral videos going?

Trayvon was just an innocent kid and Spencer was just doing a big cheers to the crowd, not the heil hitler.

I'm a grown man, this is marketing 101. Just because he has this sacred and noble cause of white whatever, doesn't mean he's above basic publicity stunts.

Have a nice day.

Aloha!

So you have no evidence Spencer set this up, only "well it could've happened like this."

Yeah, it could've. So? Maybe JFK was only supposed to get winged in the shoulder, too, for the political capital, don't you know. We can play the what-if game all day.

If Spencer staged getting assaulted for publicity I'll be happy to call him a toolbag for doing it. But I'm going to wait for a lot more proof than "Oh, the guy was white! Obvious false flag!"

[Meat Head]

What would a Muslim do?

[Leonard D Neubache]

I think some of the stuff in this thread is crack pipe material.

"Lot's of cameras and people" apparently equals "instantaneous arrest or it's a conspiracy".

With a mask "lots of people and cameras" means squat. Run a block and nobody around you has any idea of why you're running. If the police even bothered to investigate they would have to, what, subpoena people's iPhone footage one link in the chain at a time until they got a shot of the guy after he took off his mask two minutes and a half a mile later?

Having said that, I still can't fathom the kind of stupidity someone like Spencer would have to be engaging in to walk the DC streets without some sort of protection. It's like the entire movement he's heading is populated entirely by smoke and mirrors.

The fact is if I, small town country hick Leonard, wanted to start an organisation called "country blokes that hate faggots" I would probably have a microscopic support base. But I guarantee that if I wanted to go to a political event, I could call three guys right now, each 120kgs of muscle a piece, and they would have my back. They wouldn't even ask for money. They'd do it for the laughs.

So we're supposed to believe that Spencer, the head of the alt-white movement in the USA, can't get three measly dudes to walk his back and his flanks for him?

What. The. Fuck.

[SamuelBRoberts]

(01-21-2017 04:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I think some of the stuff in this thread is crack pipe material.

"Lot's of cameras and people" apparently equals "instantaneous arrest or it's a conspiracy".

With a mask "lots of people and cameras" means squat. Run a block and nobody around you has any idea of why you're running. If the police even bothered to investigate they would have to, what, subpoena people's iPhone footage one link in the chain at a time until they got a shot of the guy after he took off his mask two minutes and a half a mile later?

Having said that, I still can't fathom the kind of stupidity someone like Spencer would have to be engaging in to walk the DC streets without some sort of protection. It's like the entire movement he's heading is populated entirely by smoke and mirrors.

The fact is if I, small town country hick Leonard, wanted to start an organisation called "country blokes that hate faggots" I would probably have a microscopic support base. But I guarantee that if I wanted to go to a political event, I could call three guys right now, each 120kgs of muscle a piece, and they would have my back. They wouldn't even ask for money. They'd do it for the laughs.

So we're supposed to believe that Spencer, the head of the alt-white movement in the USA, can't get three measly dudes to walk his back and his flanks for him?

What. The. Fuck.

We already knew that Spencer was a grandstanding idiot. That he'd do something grandstanding, and idiotic, shouldn't be too surprising.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-21-2017 01:04 AM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 11:17 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Would be funny if it comes out that one of his own supporters punched him to help him get publicity. You can see that the attacker is white.

^^^^This. Richard just so happened to be filming a documentary when this occurred,what are the chances?

Much higher than they would have been if he didn't have a professional cameraman pointing a rig at his mug.

Neatly dressed white guy in DC with a camera pointing at him = target of opportunity for ANTIFA thugs that happen to be nearby.

I'm not saying it if it was real or fake. All I'm saying is that if it's real, the guy who hit him probably didn't even know who he was but figured "odds are it's someone important and it's not one of our guys".

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-21-2017 04:18 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

...
We already knew that Spencer was a grandstanding idiot. That he'd do something grandstanding, and idiotic, shouldn't be too surprising.

But does he really want to die? Or end up in a wheelchair sucking food through a straw?

Are we to believe that he's never been touched up before? Never taken a hit? That he can't imagine the possibility that this singular guy who sucker punched him could just as easily have been four guys with baseball bats hopped up on red-bull and righteous fury?

How sheltered and stupid are we to suppose that he really is?

Is all this young-blood on the right so utterly unfamiliar with political violence and anarchy that they truly believe press credentials and rolling video footage are some sort of mystical ward against being stomped into paste?

[SamuelBRoberts]

(01-21-2017 04:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

How sheltered and stupid are we to suppose that he really is?

Is all this young-blood on the right so utterly unfamiliar with political violence and anarchy that they truly believe press credentials and rolling video footage are some sort of mystical ward against being stomped into paste?

I don't know about everyone, but any question that starts "Is Richard Spencer stupid enough to...", I will answer "Yes," without even needing to hear the rest of the question.

[weambulance]

(01-21-2017 04:38 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(01-21-2017 04:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

How sheltered and stupid are we to suppose that he really is?

Is all this young-blood on the right so utterly unfamiliar with political violence and anarchy that they truly believe press credentials and rolling video footage are some sort of mystical ward against being stomped into paste?

I don't know about everyone, but any question that starts "Is Richard Spencer stupid enough to...", I will answer "Yes," without even needing to hear the rest of the question.

I wouldn't be surprised if Spencer was hoping for something like this to happen. Perhaps he's willing to risk his safety to get the antifa dipshits to show their true viciousness. He's not the best bait if so, because plenty of people think he's a dyed-in-the-wool Nazi and should be killed for it.

I just think it's a pretty big stretch to decide that because he was out baiting antifas, the incident was staged.

[Yatagan]

(01-20-2017 09:36 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

All I see is a 38 year old man who is separated from his wife and has no kids. If he's really that interested in preserving the white race, why doesn't he have six or seven kids by now? That's one thing that has me about a lot of these so-called White Nationalists. They aren't having any kids themselves. They talk about a movement, but they don't actually move the demographic needle. I'm white, but don't identify with White Nationalism. I do think the white race is something worth keeping around, and hope the numbers don't shrink too low, especially if minority interests start to get violent racialist tendencies that make it into the mainstream, whether it be La Raza or ISIS. Still, I've said it before, and I will say it again, there are people at my local church and in my social circle that have 10 or 11 white kids, and they aren't White Nationalists, but are actually moving the needle on having kids. What has Spencer done because annoy some SJW's?

He has one kid apparently according to this vid (start at 0:31)

[Yatagan]

Spencer isn't the only one that's had physical altercations with antifa/leftist thugs recently, Gavin McInnes has too

And even Lauren Southern.

[url=https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/822571433180151812][/url]

[Roosh]

The Lauren Southern clip is much more "DC" than the antifaggots with their masks and their gay chanting.

Notice how the black man "interviews" Lauren Southern by first getting slightly physical. She doesn't react in a strong way, and was distracted by her phone, telling him that he can escalate the violence and not have to suffer consequences. Before this video started, I would guess that Lauren didn't show much awareness of her environment, which allowed the black man to test her by getting close. The same happens when a shady looking black man asks you for the time or a cigarette. He's testing you for compliance and if you're soft. A firm "I don't know" or "Nah" is enough to pass their victim interview.

All violent encounters go through this interview process, where the aggressor sizes up the victim and subconsciously calculates his odds of success. The Spencer punch is a good example: the guy punched him once, saw Spencer was not ready to adjust to prevent getting punched again, and then came back.

Sometimes, just being hyper-aware and not showing fear is enough to prevent violence.

[Leonard D Neubache]

^What's more, when confronted by someone they sense is dangerous to them most people will enter into a submissive frame to attempt to deflect or draw down that aggression. Of course if the aggressor is intent on robbing or assaulting you then your natural response is going to be useless.

One of the best defensive positions to put yourself in is this.



"No mate, I don't have any smokes..."

Socially it's a sign of surrender which marks you to onlookers as the non-aggressor but in primitive and practical terms it puts your hands where they need to be to defend or strike with, and an aggressor will sense that and be less inclined to mark you as an easy target.

(ideally the hands would be a little closer together to better protect the face at short notice, but this was the best picture I could find)