016-2017 San Francisco Datasheet
01-02-2017, 04:19 AM
San Francisco
San Francisco is a 7 mile by 7 mile square and a very densely populated city in Northern California. It feels more like a European city than any other city on the West Coast. This is not Los Angeles. San Francisco is the center of the tech boom and is being flooded with money and highly intelligent and highly paid young professionals. It's a gold rush city that is changing rapidly. It is currently the most expensive city in the United States if not the world. Accommodation is extremely expensive, food and transportation are reasonable.
Background
I am a San Francisco native in my late 20s. I am 6'3, athletic and good looking. I started pickup in early 2016. I am a quiet guy who struggled socially growing up. I prefer an upscale or sophisticated vibe and I value status and physical attractiveness over friendliness or ease of game. I vastly prefer night clubs to dive bars.
2016 Laycount: ~40, ~30 in SF and maybe up to 10 of those from Tinder. Vast majority of these were Asian girls from cold approaching at clubs. I've had a handful of 8s in SF. A decent amount of 7s, but probably 50% of my lays were in the 6-7 range with a couple of shameful 5s. I have only closed one notably hot girl here who was not Asian (in 2016).
I run simple direct game and have met a large portion of the SF PUA community. There are certainly a large number of active PUAs in SF but I haven't seen many organized crews or inspiring individuals.
Nightlife
San Francisco isn't really renown for its nightlife and last call is 2 AM, as it is in all of California. Some clubs stay open until 4 AM and there are underground after hours places but the quality there is so low it is almost never worth it. I go out on Fridays and Saturdays and sometimes Thursdays. The level of talent and volume makes it not worth going out on other days, you'd be better off setting up dates Sunday-Thursday.
Here are your best options for nightlife broken down by day of the week:
Monday
*Madrone Art Bar: Might charge a small (<$5) cover. Best times to go are 9pm-12. The event is called Motown Mondays and it attracts a hipster crowd for dancing. There are not many other options on Mondays.
*Q Bar: A gay bar in the Castro with drink specials on Mondays. It attracts an international crowd.
Tuesday
*Nick's Tacos at Rogue: Taco Tuesday, packed with a good looking fratty crowd. Good from evening until around 10 or 11. Venue is a bit logistically difficult to game because most of the hot girls will be in booths or at tables.
*Blue Light: A bar in the Marina that attracts a foreign crowd. Most of the people here will be Brazilian or international students. It gets pretty packed and stays busy until 2.
Wednesday
*EPR: An 18+ rave event that is as packed as any club in SF on a Friday or Saturday. Be aware that most of the people here will be under 21 (sometimes under 18) and that a lot of them will be driving from an hour or more away and be on drugs. Attractive, young, raver girls can be found here.
*F8: Never went here but this is a small club that has a popular EDM night on Wednesdays.
Thursday
*Polk St: Try Playland and Mayes Oyster House. This is where an international student pub crawl happens every week. If you go enough you will see the same faces over and over again. Good if you like foreign women.
Weekends
Districts
*Polk St: Fratty shit show scene with a meat market vibe. Probably the most packed and drunkest bar district in San Francisco. It is easy to pull from here. Huge volume on weekends but questionable quality. Try Playland, Mayes, McTeague's, and Vertigo.
*Marina: Preppy and fratty with a surprising amount of bridge and tunnel (hood) people. You can find some stunning blonde girls here but the quality overall can leave a lot to be desired. The vibe is also very bitchy and girls here are notoriously rude. Volume is pretty good but sometimes it is inexplicably dead. Try Stock In Trade, Jaxson's, Eastside West, Matrix, and The Brixton
*North Beach: A mix of tourists, frat people, and hood people. A historic bar district that has crowded dive bars and tons of strip clubs. Kell's is probably the best bar here to do pick up in. I go to North Beach mostly for big drinking holidays.
*Mission: Hipster central. Social Justice Warrior HQ. Not worth going to pick up chicks unless you are very into that look. Friendly vibe, volume is good, but it is not a meat market or sexual place at all. I prefer taking girls here for dates.
*Folsom: Good mix of venues. I particularly like the combination of Bootie SF (Saturdays at DNA Lounge), Audio, and Bergerac. Volume is good but quality can be be really bad sometimes. There are a bunch of other venues here I never go to.
*Inner Richmond: Generally pretty quiet. Sometimes it can be good on Thursdays. USF and SF State students hanging out at dive bars. Try Ireland's or the Abbey. I wouldn't recommend gaming here unless you specifically want to target college girls and live near by.
Clubs
*Temple: The largest club in San Francisco and by far the best option if you like Asian girls. Two floors, three rooms. Long lines and steep cover charges. You can find really hot international girls here most weekends.
*1015 Folsom: A very large music venue/club in San Francisco. I go here if there is a good event. The crowd is totally dependent on who is playing.
*Infusion: A mid sized club that plays hip hop primarily. Doesn't attract much of an Asian crowd as opposed to most San Francisco night clubs. Requires a collared shirt on Saturdays.
*Ruby Skye: Mostly a concert venue. The crowd will lean heavily Asian and most people will be twacked out on molly. I don't like gaming here.
*Audio: Small club that has a Burning Man vibe on many nights. The quality here can be okay but it is so dark you won't be able to tell.
*DNA Lounge: Very big venue but kind of an anti-club club. Friendly bouncers and unpretentious and open to anyone which means tons of unconventionally attractive people.
*Love + Propaganda: Small/mid sized stylish club that can be very hit or miss. Sometimes there is good talent here sometimes it is empty.
*The Grand: Mid sized club that can be very good some nights depending on the event. I rarely go here. Attracts an Asian crowd usually.
*Origin: A mid sized club that is almost exclusively Asian. Can be pretty empty. Gender ratio is usually terrible and I rarely go here.
*Cat Club: Mid sized club with a weird vibe. Usually hosting niche events. I never go here.
*Harlot: Small stylish club that attracts a predominantly white crowd. I almost never go here because it is so small but sometimes it has good talent.
*Public Works: Pretty big venue. Burning Man and druggie crowd. Leans heavily white. Great music, not great for pickup
*Halcyon: Newest club in SF. Mid-sized. It has a 24 hour liquor license but won't use it for some reason. Was totally dead when I went here on a Saturday night. A burner/drug crowd.
*The Great Northern: A new club which unsurprisingly caters to the burner/drug crowd.
*Verso: A mid sized club which caters to the burner/drug crowd.
*Empire Room: A new mid sized club that caters to a hip hop crowd, which I tend to avoid.
*City Nights/Club X: 18+ club, I haven't gone here in years. I used to pull from here back when I didn't know game and was younger, it might come off as a bit odd if you are over 25 and gaming here regularly though.
Events
There are big events that are very good gaming opportunities if you want to mass approach in San Francisco. Here is a list of some:
*St Patrick's Day: March. Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Bay 2 Breakers: Happens in the month of May every year. A "race" that is really more like a drunken parade that runs from downtown to the beach. The party area of the race is in the panhandle. It is a total shit show.
*Gay Pride: End of June. Huge turn out in Civic Center and most of the people who are partying are straight. Be aware that many of the hot girls you will want to approach will be underage.
*Hardly Strictly: End of September. Huge free music festival that attracts hundreds of thousands of people in Golden Gate Park.
*Thanksgiving Eve: Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Santa Con: In December. Huge shit show with amazing talent. Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Guardsman Party: In December, a holiday party that caters to the preppy Marina crowd. Highly recommended, over 2000 will attend.
*Holiday Parties: There is a huge tech boom and lots of money to spend on various company holiday parties. If you can get into one of the holiday parties at a large company you will have a lot of fun.
*Tech Conferences and Mixers: There are frequently industry conferences held in SF and usually there are tons of parties associated with them. It can be difficult to secure entry but it is definitely a SF scene.
Day Game
I don't do day game, but the Marina Green/Fort Mason on Saturday or Sundays will be packed with hot girls. Dolores Park is even more crowded, especially on Sundays, but attracts more of a hipster crowd.
Westfield/Union Square is where most people day game during the week.
Online Game
I stopped doing online game early in 2016, but Tinder is very popular in San Francisco. The quality of girls in SF is already pretty low so subtract a point or two from their appearance and be prepared to be disappointed. Hooking up with girls from Tinder on a first date is fairly easy in San Francisco. My dates usually ended in sex or there was zero chemistry at all.
Dating & Demographics
San Francisco has a pretty bad rep in the pickup/dating world. The women are generally considered unattractive and extremely liberal/progressive. I would agree that is true but would note that San Francisco is a world city now and you can avoid most of that by sticking to certain venues, staying away from hipster hang outs, and dating foreign girls. The hottest girls in San Francisco are almost invariably blonde white girls from LA who are fairly conservative or girls from Asia or Europe. San Francisco's population leans heavily Asian and my friends who like Asian girls are fine here, but my friends who prefer white girls seem pretty unhappy. Even in Temple, if you like Asians, you will only see 5 or so 8s on a good night and they might all be in VIP. You might see 5-10 white 8s in the entire Marina on a Friday or Saturday night. San Francisco night life is mostly filled with 6s and below. Girls are usually open to casual dating or keeping things undefined. One night stands are not rare but not extremely common either. If you don't like condoms it isn't hard to convince girls here not to use them.
Oakland/Berkeley
I don't have a lot of experience gaming in the East Bay but UC Berkeley is a huge school and that means a huge population of girls 18-22 and a surprising number of them are attractive considering UC Berkeley does not have that reputation. Very healthy Greek life on campus, the few college bars there are are not that great. I have only gone out in Oakland a handful of times, some of the bars and clubs there are very black leaning.
San Jose
The south bay has a huge population of Latinas and Asian girls, of particular note are the ABGs (Asian Baby Girls). ABGs are usually Vietnamese and have fake tits, lips, are tattooed and love to party. There are topless cafes and underground clubs where you can hang out with Vietnamese gangsters and ABGs. I don't have much first hand experience here, but it is something to consider if that sounds interesting to you. In general I hear terrible things about the south bay because of the gender ratio and very spread out nature of the region.
Feel free to ask questions or post your experiences. I would also encourage you to PM me if you want to meet myself or my wings and get off the keyboard and in the field. Several members can vouch that I get pretty solid results and am a good wing.
San Francisco is a 7 mile by 7 mile square and a very densely populated city in Northern California. It feels more like a European city than any other city on the West Coast. This is not Los Angeles. San Francisco is the center of the tech boom and is being flooded with money and highly intelligent and highly paid young professionals. It's a gold rush city that is changing rapidly. It is currently the most expensive city in the United States if not the world. Accommodation is extremely expensive, food and transportation are reasonable.
Background
I am a San Francisco native in my late 20s. I am 6'3, athletic and good looking. I started pickup in early 2016. I am a quiet guy who struggled socially growing up. I prefer an upscale or sophisticated vibe and I value status and physical attractiveness over friendliness or ease of game. I vastly prefer night clubs to dive bars.
2016 Laycount: ~40, ~30 in SF and maybe up to 10 of those from Tinder. Vast majority of these were Asian girls from cold approaching at clubs. I've had a handful of 8s in SF. A decent amount of 7s, but probably 50% of my lays were in the 6-7 range with a couple of shameful 5s. I have only closed one notably hot girl here who was not Asian (in 2016).
I run simple direct game and have met a large portion of the SF PUA community. There are certainly a large number of active PUAs in SF but I haven't seen many organized crews or inspiring individuals.
Nightlife
San Francisco isn't really renown for its nightlife and last call is 2 AM, as it is in all of California. Some clubs stay open until 4 AM and there are underground after hours places but the quality there is so low it is almost never worth it. I go out on Fridays and Saturdays and sometimes Thursdays. The level of talent and volume makes it not worth going out on other days, you'd be better off setting up dates Sunday-Thursday.
Here are your best options for nightlife broken down by day of the week:
Monday
*Madrone Art Bar: Might charge a small (<$5) cover. Best times to go are 9pm-12. The event is called Motown Mondays and it attracts a hipster crowd for dancing. There are not many other options on Mondays.
*Q Bar: A gay bar in the Castro with drink specials on Mondays. It attracts an international crowd.
Tuesday
*Nick's Tacos at Rogue: Taco Tuesday, packed with a good looking fratty crowd. Good from evening until around 10 or 11. Venue is a bit logistically difficult to game because most of the hot girls will be in booths or at tables.
*Blue Light: A bar in the Marina that attracts a foreign crowd. Most of the people here will be Brazilian or international students. It gets pretty packed and stays busy until 2.
Wednesday
*EPR: An 18+ rave event that is as packed as any club in SF on a Friday or Saturday. Be aware that most of the people here will be under 21 (sometimes under 18) and that a lot of them will be driving from an hour or more away and be on drugs. Attractive, young, raver girls can be found here.
*F8: Never went here but this is a small club that has a popular EDM night on Wednesdays.
Thursday
*Polk St: Try Playland and Mayes Oyster House. This is where an international student pub crawl happens every week. If you go enough you will see the same faces over and over again. Good if you like foreign women.
Weekends
Districts
*Polk St: Fratty shit show scene with a meat market vibe. Probably the most packed and drunkest bar district in San Francisco. It is easy to pull from here. Huge volume on weekends but questionable quality. Try Playland, Mayes, McTeague's, and Vertigo.
*Marina: Preppy and fratty with a surprising amount of bridge and tunnel (hood) people. You can find some stunning blonde girls here but the quality overall can leave a lot to be desired. The vibe is also very bitchy and girls here are notoriously rude. Volume is pretty good but sometimes it is inexplicably dead. Try Stock In Trade, Jaxson's, Eastside West, Matrix, and The Brixton
*North Beach: A mix of tourists, frat people, and hood people. A historic bar district that has crowded dive bars and tons of strip clubs. Kell's is probably the best bar here to do pick up in. I go to North Beach mostly for big drinking holidays.
*Mission: Hipster central. Social Justice Warrior HQ. Not worth going to pick up chicks unless you are very into that look. Friendly vibe, volume is good, but it is not a meat market or sexual place at all. I prefer taking girls here for dates.
*Folsom: Good mix of venues. I particularly like the combination of Bootie SF (Saturdays at DNA Lounge), Audio, and Bergerac. Volume is good but quality can be be really bad sometimes. There are a bunch of other venues here I never go to.
*Inner Richmond: Generally pretty quiet. Sometimes it can be good on Thursdays. USF and SF State students hanging out at dive bars. Try Ireland's or the Abbey. I wouldn't recommend gaming here unless you specifically want to target college girls and live near by.
Clubs
*Temple: The largest club in San Francisco and by far the best option if you like Asian girls. Two floors, three rooms. Long lines and steep cover charges. You can find really hot international girls here most weekends.
*1015 Folsom: A very large music venue/club in San Francisco. I go here if there is a good event. The crowd is totally dependent on who is playing.
*Infusion: A mid sized club that plays hip hop primarily. Doesn't attract much of an Asian crowd as opposed to most San Francisco night clubs. Requires a collared shirt on Saturdays.
*Ruby Skye: Mostly a concert venue. The crowd will lean heavily Asian and most people will be twacked out on molly. I don't like gaming here.
*Audio: Small club that has a Burning Man vibe on many nights. The quality here can be okay but it is so dark you won't be able to tell.
*DNA Lounge: Very big venue but kind of an anti-club club. Friendly bouncers and unpretentious and open to anyone which means tons of unconventionally attractive people.
*Love + Propaganda: Small/mid sized stylish club that can be very hit or miss. Sometimes there is good talent here sometimes it is empty.
*The Grand: Mid sized club that can be very good some nights depending on the event. I rarely go here. Attracts an Asian crowd usually.
*Origin: A mid sized club that is almost exclusively Asian. Can be pretty empty. Gender ratio is usually terrible and I rarely go here.
*Cat Club: Mid sized club with a weird vibe. Usually hosting niche events. I never go here.
*Harlot: Small stylish club that attracts a predominantly white crowd. I almost never go here because it is so small but sometimes it has good talent.
*Public Works: Pretty big venue. Burning Man and druggie crowd. Leans heavily white. Great music, not great for pickup
*Halcyon: Newest club in SF. Mid-sized. It has a 24 hour liquor license but won't use it for some reason. Was totally dead when I went here on a Saturday night. A burner/drug crowd.
*The Great Northern: A new club which unsurprisingly caters to the burner/drug crowd.
*Verso: A mid sized club which caters to the burner/drug crowd.
*Empire Room: A new mid sized club that caters to a hip hop crowd, which I tend to avoid.
*City Nights/Club X: 18+ club, I haven't gone here in years. I used to pull from here back when I didn't know game and was younger, it might come off as a bit odd if you are over 25 and gaming here regularly though.
Events
There are big events that are very good gaming opportunities if you want to mass approach in San Francisco. Here is a list of some:
*St Patrick's Day: March. Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Bay 2 Breakers: Happens in the month of May every year. A "race" that is really more like a drunken parade that runs from downtown to the beach. The party area of the race is in the panhandle. It is a total shit show.
*Gay Pride: End of June. Huge turn out in Civic Center and most of the people who are partying are straight. Be aware that many of the hot girls you will want to approach will be underage.
*Hardly Strictly: End of September. Huge free music festival that attracts hundreds of thousands of people in Golden Gate Park.
*Thanksgiving Eve: Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Santa Con: In December. Huge shit show with amazing talent. Check out Polk/Marina/North Beach.
*Guardsman Party: In December, a holiday party that caters to the preppy Marina crowd. Highly recommended, over 2000 will attend.
*Holiday Parties: There is a huge tech boom and lots of money to spend on various company holiday parties. If you can get into one of the holiday parties at a large company you will have a lot of fun.
*Tech Conferences and Mixers: There are frequently industry conferences held in SF and usually there are tons of parties associated with them. It can be difficult to secure entry but it is definitely a SF scene.
Day Game
I don't do day game, but the Marina Green/Fort Mason on Saturday or Sundays will be packed with hot girls. Dolores Park is even more crowded, especially on Sundays, but attracts more of a hipster crowd.
Westfield/Union Square is where most people day game during the week.
Online Game
I stopped doing online game early in 2016, but Tinder is very popular in San Francisco. The quality of girls in SF is already pretty low so subtract a point or two from their appearance and be prepared to be disappointed. Hooking up with girls from Tinder on a first date is fairly easy in San Francisco. My dates usually ended in sex or there was zero chemistry at all.
Dating & Demographics
San Francisco has a pretty bad rep in the pickup/dating world. The women are generally considered unattractive and extremely liberal/progressive. I would agree that is true but would note that San Francisco is a world city now and you can avoid most of that by sticking to certain venues, staying away from hipster hang outs, and dating foreign girls. The hottest girls in San Francisco are almost invariably blonde white girls from LA who are fairly conservative or girls from Asia or Europe. San Francisco's population leans heavily Asian and my friends who like Asian girls are fine here, but my friends who prefer white girls seem pretty unhappy. Even in Temple, if you like Asians, you will only see 5 or so 8s on a good night and they might all be in VIP. You might see 5-10 white 8s in the entire Marina on a Friday or Saturday night. San Francisco night life is mostly filled with 6s and below. Girls are usually open to casual dating or keeping things undefined. One night stands are not rare but not extremely common either. If you don't like condoms it isn't hard to convince girls here not to use them.
Oakland/Berkeley
I don't have a lot of experience gaming in the East Bay but UC Berkeley is a huge school and that means a huge population of girls 18-22 and a surprising number of them are attractive considering UC Berkeley does not have that reputation. Very healthy Greek life on campus, the few college bars there are are not that great. I have only gone out in Oakland a handful of times, some of the bars and clubs there are very black leaning.
San Jose
The south bay has a huge population of Latinas and Asian girls, of particular note are the ABGs (Asian Baby Girls). ABGs are usually Vietnamese and have fake tits, lips, are tattooed and love to party. There are topless cafes and underground clubs where you can hang out with Vietnamese gangsters and ABGs. I don't have much first hand experience here, but it is something to consider if that sounds interesting to you. In general I hear terrible things about the south bay because of the gender ratio and very spread out nature of the region.
Feel free to ask questions or post your experiences. I would also encourage you to PM me if you want to meet myself or my wings and get off the keyboard and in the field. Several members can vouch that I get pretty solid results and am a good wing.
