[OSL]

Can you guys go into a bit more detail about why?

[Neo]

(08-12-2011 06:36 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

On the eve of my 25th birthday, I can't help but feel like I"m getting old.

My hairline has receded a bit, I see some wrinkles forming, and I"ve developed this somewhat cynical old man mentality about a lot of things. I guess I can chalk it up to experience.

The first half of my twenties were filled with incredible experiences, beautiful women, and lasting friendships.

However, the fact that the first half of my twenties was great doesn't change the fact that it's over.

I've been going through similar feelings for a while now and I'm in my late twenties. I don't worry much about aging and it's effects as I feel better and more confident with every day.

The biggest thing that concerns me is that feeling of being adrift in life. I'm someone who doesn't buy into the whole get a house in the suburbs and work a job 40 hours a week. Yet the economics of the situation pretty much force me to do so. The state of the US at this time as well is a contributing factor as having a so called 'stable' job is harder and harder to come by these days.

I've been doing exercises with myself to as other posters have mentioned narrow my choices. Figuring out what I really want to do in this world and it's hard. Actually coming up with the idea isn't but it's the execution that bogs me down, I ask myself 'How the fuck am I going to do that?' and I get stuck.

I believe things will eventually become clearer.

[Dash Global]

Some words of advice,

Think about what you want out of life.

This is crucial because it will determine in large part of how your life will play out.

Develop a practical and legit PLAN for achieving your goals.

Fuck, even have a backup plan for if the first one falls through.

Makes life alot less stressful, imo....

[pitt]

Ajiaco comment was really powerful, you guys have no idea how a comment on here can bring a change/value into someone's life. We really have some very interesting people on here.

[Kickb]

You sound like my older brother who just recently turned 25. Granted, you have lived much more than he has. He is already living the American Dream of being a cable guy and is married to a chubby american woman and has a kid and lives with in his wife's grandmas house. He doesnt have as much to look forward to as you do my man.

[dk902]

Before I got into the game I was always apprehensive about becoming older. However after knowing what I know and reading about the experiences of other guys I think things can only get better.

I'm 24 now also but I think by the time I am 30 I will be in a much better position in terms of game and finance. Right now I'm chasing paper so I can have a comfortable existence in my 30s and beyond.

[Ohiogang]

youngmobileglobal were these women in the 9-10 range? your an asian guy w/ supposed experience you could put down the race trolls where did you game these women?

[OSL]

LOL

[OSL]

(08-13-2011 11:28 AM)kickboxer Wrote:  

You sound like my older brother who just recently turned 25. Granted, you have lived much more than he has. He is already living the American Dream of being a cable guy and is married to a chubby american woman and has a kid and lives with in his wife's grandmas house. He doesnt have as much to look forward to as you do my man.

Haha, thanks kickboxer.

Whoever posted that TED talk, btw, thanks a lot.

It really struck a chord with me - even when you make good decisions, when you have a wealth of options there can always be an element of regret.

[Docter]

I think it's healthy to have these sort of crises, as long as you take them as opportunities to actualize yourself.

Better to fall and get back up on the right track than to meander aimlessly like a fucking zombie.

Have any of you older guys really set a plan for yourself? Dash mentioned it, but I'm curious how concrete you take it.

[Samseau]

(08-12-2011 03:52 PM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

Can you guys go into a bit more detail about why?

http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-5739.html

[Riker]

I'm about to turn 25 also and its tough to think about what I could have done differently in the past. I started getting really into self improvement when I was 19 and 20 and I had goals for having a super sculpted body, lots of money, and great game by the time I reached 25. And I could have done it but with a couple girlfriends and plenty of mistakes along the way I fell way short. I've lost plenty of days to depression too which sucks! I really want to turn 30 really feeling I squeezed as much juice out of the 25-30 years that I could, without compromising health or happiness though, that's the trick I think.

[Caligula]

(08-16-2011 01:16 PM)Riker Wrote:  

I'm about to turn 25 also and its tough to think about what I could have done differently in the past. I started getting really into self improvement when I was 19 and 20 and I had goals for having a super sculpted body, lots of money, and great game by the time I reached 25. And I could have done it but with a couple girlfriends and plenty of mistakes along the way I fell way short. I've lost plenty of days to depression too which sucks! I really want to turn 30 really feeling I squeezed as much juice out of the 25-30 years that I could, without compromising health or happiness though, that's the trick I think.

I'm in a very similar place.

You're already way ahead of most 25 year olds in that you've tried once, made mistakes, can learn from those mistakes and do better the next time. And this time around you'll have higher status with girls, be more mature, as you're doing it.

Mistakes are great; making them means you've tried. Most people let their egos get in the way of trying and failing.

Just make sure you always make new mistakes.

[Amour Fou]

I just turned 24, and I've been through much of what's been talked through here...

I am learning how to STOP COUNTING my age, and focusing on my short term achievement and aims.

We all have these ideals and suppositions of how and where we should be at a certain age. These can actually be what keep us from living out to the fullest.

I try to live on the intensity of the moment, allowing space and openness for the future. This is completely different from "not thinking" about your future, as if not caring or whatever. It is just feeling that your future is broad and open, and you are completely free to take different turns, depending on what changes you go through. And change is the only constant in life.

I am no fan of having ridgid plans for the future and live life as if I'm just ticking through a list of achievements. There are no scripts in life, and the less notion of a script you have, more authentic and fullfiling your life gets, as you start living by your own terms and rhythms. Allowing for you own particular and private processes to occur.

The answers and inspirations for the future can only be found in the intensity of the present, allowing for spontaneity and some level of uncertainty in life. If you overthink your plans for the future, you enclose yourself to a narrow and repetitive perspective that doesn't allow for the randomness of life to cast out its gifts upon you.

Granted... easier said than done...

[MikeCF]

My early 20s sucked, too. It's an age when you're seeking identity.

If you stay in shape, get your money right, build a business, and learn game, your late 20's and early 30's will be unbelievably awesome. That, I assure you.

[UgSlayer]

It sounds like an episode of The View up in here.






Age does not matter if you are a guy. I can think of 5 guys off the top of my head who are 40+ and are every woman's wet dream.

[FilMor]

I used to feel the same, i turned 26 and realized that we are just living in our own reality, fuck it when i'm 50 i want to be tatted up with a cigar in my mouth and two 20 year old girls next to me that hardly speak english.

I can't wait till i'm 50 now.

[CupCake]

Hey, come on. Quit bashin' the guy. Jeez, every time someone expresses the slightest amount of weakness around here people dive on them. I'm really getting sick of it. You do realize that this sort of behavior might be preventing people from contributing genuine content, right? We're supposed to be helping each other out here.

Anyway, I completely feel you, YMG. I'm about to turn 28 this week and I've been going through this sort of thinking for several years. It sounds like you've been living a lot more than I have though. Most of my twenties have been wasted. I think the key to the solution here is to figure out who exactly you're listening to here. There's been a lot drilled into your head over the years: who you need to be, where you're supposed to be in your stage of life, when you're supposed to get married, etc.

The one thing that has gotten me through all the self-doubt is to take a good look at the people who are living the life they're "supposed" to be living. I have relatives and friends who have gone down the easy path, the one that everyone would have expected them to. I feel a lot of these people didn't have the creativity, drive, or backbone to listen to their inner voice. They stuck to the simple plan. In my early twenties I envied these people. Now I look at them and pity them. I would never trade my life for theirs.

I feel "old" all the time. Why? Probably because I feel like I missed out on something I was "supposed" to do when I was "supposed" to do it.

As long as you don't compromise yourself you're on the right path.

[ersatz]

(08-12-2011 08:45 AM)amistod Wrote:  

but it has left me with this irrational anxiety about wasting time.

That irrational fear can put a fire on your ass to get moving with your life, and that energy and motivation is an asset.

[ersatz]

(08-12-2011 09:31 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(08-12-2011 07:04 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(08-12-2011 06:36 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

On the eve of my 25th birthday, I can't help but feel like I"m getting old.

My hairline has receded a bit, I see some wrinkles forming, and I"ve developed this somewhat cynical old man mentality about a lot of things. I guess I can chalk it up to experience.

The first half of my twenties were filled with incredible experiences, beautiful women, and lasting friendships.

However, the fact that the first half of my twenties was great doesn't change the fact that it's over.

Yep, it's over for you YMG. Might as well head out to pasture. In a few months your pee-pee will stop working and girls will laugh cuz you get a discount on coffee at Hardee's.

(08-12-2011 06:40 AM)Smitty Wrote:  

Been there and beyond it (34 now). Best advice I can give is to keep your diet clean, watch the alcohol intake, don't smoke, and stay in shape. You're still young, but now is the time to be taking care of your body to fight off those characteristics of aging. The body is a temple.

You worry too much. I drink copious amounts of alcohol to the point of blacking out, smoke like a freight train, eat as I want, and am lucky to sleep 5 hrs a day. I still look young and fuck like a sexual pterodactyl. Why? Cause I don't give a fuck. That's the key. Stop worrying what men's magazines tell ya. Their written by women.

Haha. I'm 42 Drink about a gallon of vodka a week, drink 10 frappes a day,chain smoke, Eat pot brownies and vicodin for breakfast and still pull more ass than the ladies room at the airport.

You will be fine YMG..Don't worry!

Both of my parents ate right, exercised, never smoked and barely if ever drank and the differences in their appearances compared to their similar aged peers is striking. Sometimes I get uncomfortable meeting my mother for coffee because people might think we're dating o_O. Treat your body good and you'll reap the rewards.

[blurb]

I'm 18 and feel what you're feeling, although differently. My next birthday is going to be the last time I'm ever going to be a teenager. I don't know why, but it just saddens me. Anyone else felt this way?

I think why we're feeling this way is the feminized culture we grew up in where women are trying to project the knowledge that age chips away at a woman's SMV by trying to say that a man's SMV also weakens as he ages which is totally false. We can't help it. After decades of growing up such an environment where everyone is expounding this lie, it takes time to unplug from the matrix.

As Solomon II pointed out in his Marriage Zone graph, a man hits his prime at around 29.

What can a man do at 29 that he couldn't do over 10 years ago?

Basically, all the stuff I can't do right now.

1) Travel. Travel? What with school, trying to find a job, and a roof over your head, you really think you can just take 6 weeks off from your unstable job and hit up Brazil, France, or Thailand, and not face financial consequences (you're young and broke, remember?) and the possibility of a threat to job security?

Contrast this with young women who can (and probably have) duped many a chump boyfriend after chump boyfriend into taking them out to travel and/or received many other special perks from many men who try to buy her favor through gifts.

2) Swoop fly girls like a falcon. It takes practice to get better at Game. How much time it takes is different for every guy, although it seems 6 months is the norm to start seeing results. I'm sure that any guy with a decade of experience with Game is going to be a monster.

Girls, on the other hand, have no problem at this age getting alpha cock.

3) Have a comfortable bankroll. Face it, you're young and broke. Maybe you have an idea and want to start a business? You'll fail before you succeed. It takes time to turn a job into a career, if that career is truly something you enjoy and have a passion doing unlike the majority of boring jobs.

Women have beta men that cater to their wants and desires and buy them expensive gifts.

Basically, not only do men gain greater access to poon as Solomon II showed in his graph, but men also gain the privileges and benefits that women had when they were young.

[Saladin]

(08-24-2011 02:03 AM)blurb Wrote:  

I'm 18 and feel what you're feeling, although differently. My next birthday is going to be the last time I'm ever going to be a teenager. I don't know why, but it just saddens me. Anyone else felt this way?

I think why we're feeling this way is the feminized culture we grew up in where women are trying to project the knowledge that age chips away at a woman's SMV by trying to say that a man's SMV also weakens as he ages which is totally false. We can't help it. After decades of growing up such an environment where everyone is expounding this lie, it takes time to unplug from the matrix.

As Solomon II pointed out in his Marriage Zone graph, a man hits his prime at around 29.

What can a man do at 29 that he couldn't do over 10 years ago?

Basically, all the stuff I can't do right now.

1) Travel. Travel? What with school, trying to find a job, and a roof over your head, you really think you can just take 6 weeks off from your unstable job and hit up Brazil, France, or Thailand, and not face financial consequences (you're young and broke, remember?) and the possibility of a threat to job security?

Contrast this with young women who can (and probably have) duped many a chump boyfriend after chump boyfriend into taking them out to travel and/or received many other special perks from many men who try to buy her favor through gifts.

2) Swoop fly girls like a falcon. It takes practice to get better at Game. How much time it takes is different for every guy, although it seems 6 months is the norm to start seeing results. I'm sure that any guy with a decade of experience with Game is going to be a monster.

Girls, on the other hand, have no problem at this age getting alpha cock.

3) Have a comfortable bankroll. Face it, you're young and broke. Maybe you have an idea and want to start a business? You'll fail before you succeed. It takes time to turn a job into a career, if that career is truly something you enjoy and have a passion doing unlike the majority of boring jobs.

Women have beta men that cater to their wants and desires and buy them expensive gifts.

Basically, not only do men gain greater access to poon as Solomon II showed in his graph, but men also gain the privileges and benefits that women had when they were young.

You're looking at this way the wrong way.
Look dude, very few girls get paid vacations. Only a few do.

Second of all as a young man at 18 you have the potential to do great things(same as I). The average guy our age is a video game playing addict or someone who spends his spare time playing Starcraft.

You have the knowledge and guidance present in this forum. That itself is worth millions of dollars to me.

Start spending your time on three main things, money, game, and fitness.
Don't waste time on stupid shit. If it ain't getting you money, girls, or helping you become fitter try to avoid it.

Its hard to balance all three because it can be hard to focus on them. Right now I've been picking up girls around 5 days a week in Toronto, but I haven't pushed myself hard because of the apathy I've developed towards Toronto after visiting the Nordics and Bangkok. I still will stick to 5 days a week for pickup though. I also have started working out 3 times a week.
I work daily on my online business, not as much as I should but I will ramp it up as Fall comes in and I spend less time on pickup.
Send me a Pm and lets talk. Its good to see another 18 year old who has such intelligence. Your posts remind me of a younger version of Athlone.

[Saladin]

Also, don't get jealous of girls.
They don't have the chance to develop true core confidence like we do.
I'd rather work hard and know I earned it than just be given free shit because the first is what leads to greater happiness. A girl getting beta chumps to buy her stuff is going to be far less centred than a man who does his own shit.

[weaksyde]

i guess this applies to us all. theres a point in our lives, after all the fun, bullshits, stupidities, craziness, and all that luck life has to offer, we just stop and ask. "how the hell it all went so fast? what happened here?"
we would overthink and rationalize all things done and did, and but does it help us in our way forward? we all know the answer.

i myself, turning 30 next year, am in this limbo, as of now. (and im taking a much needed a week off hiatus to bkk)
yeah i wont and i refuse to say that im sorting things out. id rather say, im headed forward, and am not looking back on whats behind.

heres to us all, lets make it one step, bigger, and faster.

no excuses~

[latinlover]

Aaaaaagh, the quarter life crisis. This one hit me hard

The realization that my youth had passed, awareness of my mortality, going over the mistakes of my past and the uncertainty of the future.

As i say, hit me hard, constantly anxious, my mind racing, looking in the mirror at the mirror for signs of aging and constantly second guessing myself.

Understand, you are not alone in these feelings, and it is usually the most analytical and self-critical people that it effects the most.

For me at the time, i was so caught up in my thought patterns and didn't realise this was what was causing me the distress. Constantly going over things and no matter what end game i came to, it was always un-satisfactory. These head games were the root of my problem and not the aging per se

The best thing to do righ here right now, in my case anyway, was to bury myself in the here and now. Every time my mind wondered to the past or futur, i would make a conscientious decision to bring myself back to the present.

It does get easier, and you will reach the point where you can analyse you situatuion coldly and clearly, without it gettin emotive.

And this really is no platitude, but everyone above is right, it only gets better. Each year i think it cant get better, and it does.

Yes you are about to leave your yourth, but my god adulthood is so much better and nothing like i expected it to be.

Hope this helps