[Kid Strangelove]

It's been exactly one week since the election of our glorious God Emperor and, while the dust has settled, I've been particularly interested in what's coming next from the left, and how we insure continuous victory for our cause.


About 10% of leftists that I know are using this moment as self reflection. And you know what? Good for them.

However, I've noticed that the other 90% of leftists, as well as almost the entirety of mainstream media, is doubling down

• They're trying to cast doubt on Trump's ability to govern
• They're calling all of his supporters racist
• They are radicalizing young people (many protesters in the streets are under 18) to join their cause
• They're specifically singling out white people
  

Yes, on the surface, this seems silly and that they are digging their own whole deeper. But let's not forget three crucial factors:

1. Trump won by going against conventional wisdom of how the Republican Party should move forward
2. Young people, especially young non white people, which is now a majority in the USA, tend to vote left
3. Voter turnout was down this year for Democrats
   

It's actually quite reasonable to assume that their strategy just wasnt ran hard enough, and that it could be the winning combination in 2020

As stupid as this sounds now, in the aftermath of a giant victory, we must spread neo-masculine and pro Trump messages even more. We must convert more people to our cause.

Here's how I've been going about it. I welcome any and all suggestions on how to keep our message of sanity alive:

• Talk to the people that asked you why you voted for Trump. Engage them, give details. It's now more accepted than before to be a Trump supporter openly, and IMO most people who ask you about your Trump vote are a moment or two from taking the red pill themselves
• Keep making fun of the left. They need to look like a joke. A good example - there's a video of a protester being hit by a car at night while protesting on a HIGHWAY. That's just dumb. Make them look dumb.
• Lead by example. For a lot of people Trump was an inspiration to get out there and get what they want. Use it, help lift people up. Dress better, eat better, lift, hit on only the prettiest girls.
• Get involved in culture. The left had a lot of victories because they dominated pop culture, and as Andrew Breitbart said - politics is downstream from culture. The most you can do is create your own cultural works. Or you can spread the message (I have personally gotten 3 people to buy Roosh's free speech book. It helps that there's a blurb in there about me ). At the very least - keep memeing
• Disparage the Democratic party in the eyes of minorities. "They dont do shit for you man, they just keep making promises". I have personally converted about 20 people from the hood because I told them "Democrats run your block for decades, and shit hasnt gotten better, ever".
• Defend Trump from media attacks. This doesn't mean he gets a free pass when he fucks up, but we are smart enough to know the difference between a Trump fuckup and a smear job. The attacks on Steve Bannon in the last few days - smear job.
  

That's all I got for now. Don't let up fam. And no matter how silly it feels to say it - the enemy is not down yet. The battle might be over but the war is still raging.

[heavy]

(11-15-2016 10:56 AM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

However, I've noticed that the other 90% of leftists, as well as almost the entirety of mainstream media, is doubling down

• They're trying to cast doubt on Trump's ability to govern
• They're calling all of his supporters racist
• They are radicalizing young people (many protesters in the streets are under 18) to join their cause
• They're specifically singling out white people
  

What is/are your sources? The first one, yeah...that's normal with a new president.

The rest of them...are you basing it on Soros paying for busing in protesters to Chicago or something? Or social media? Just curious the source.

The points at the end are good. I'm enjoying telling my girl I'm going to grab her by the pussy, then smirk/chuckle. I think it's funny every time (so she does by proxy). I'm taking some Trump persona of just telling it as it is.

Or just saying out loud, I'm a winner. I win. They love me. I love them. They're great people. They're good friends, I love them. etc etc (in the Trump declarative)

Own it, don't explain don't complain.

[redpillage]

Awesome thread - count me in. Your percentages are obviously a bit on the soft side (to put it kindly) but I do understand that it's difficult to arrive at a proper sample since it's the squeaky wheel that usually gets the grease (meaning a lot of libtards may just be quiet and depressed).

I'm equally concerned about 2020 as we eeked out a win here literally 3 minutes before noon. The demographics are NOT working in our favor, which why it is important that we drain the swamp not only in Washington but throughout the ENTIRE educational system. I cannot stress this enough! The Left is literally breeding future libtards starting at Kindergarten where the brain washing and gender bending begins all the way into our universities.

So our prime directive must be to remove all political ideology out the educational system, if need be by force. More specifically this will include firing a shitload of embedded agents of the Left which has shown to be extremely effective at subverting children and young adults.

[polar]

^
Unfortunately, four years is not enough to change (and successfully impact) an educational system that takes 12-18 years to complete. Furthermore, you have to look at average length of teacher tenure, which is probably north of 30 years.

On the other hand...people's political views don't stay constant. The reason Conservatives are the party of lower taxes is that the sooner people see how much of their tax dollar goes to things that do not benefit them personally, the sooner they switch.

'If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.'

The media is the key to influencing the population as a whole. Mass media (including the whole spectrum of "non-fiction" to fiction - news, edutainment, and Hollywood) is what influences most people's opinions regardless of age. The same people who watch Disney cartoons at the age of 5 are the ones who watch Pixar at 10, Lucas films at 15, ESPN at 25, ABC News at 35, and A&E at 45.

People finish their education, but continue to "stay informed" and be told what to think. Most people don't even read books, the most they do is read long-form articles in the same left-leaning media which tells them what to think...and they proceed to their personal Facebook echo chambers from there.

[redpillage]

(11-15-2016 01:27 PM)polar Wrote:  

^
Unfortunately, four years is not enough to change (and successfully impact) an educational system that takes 12-18 years to complete. Furthermore, you have to look at average length of teacher tenure, which is probably north of 30 years.

On the other hand...people's political views don't stay constant. The reason Conservatives are the party of lower taxes is that the sooner people see how much of their tax dollar goes to things that do not benefit them personally, the sooner they switch.

'If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain.'

The media is the key to influencing the population as a whole. Mass media (including the whole spectrum of "non-fiction" to fiction - news, edutainment, and Hollywood) is what influences most people's opinions regardless of age. The same people who watch Disney cartoons at the age of 5 are the ones who watch Pixar at 10, Lucas films at 15, ESPN at 25, ABC News at 35, and A&E at 45.

People finish their education, but continue to "stay informed" and be told what to think. Most people don't even read books, the most they do is read long-form articles in the same left-leaning media which tells them what to think...and they proceed to their personal Facebook echo chambers from there.

Points well taken. However Bush could be instrumental in forcing political agendas OUT of the educational system. So even IF someone has a 30 tenor any attempts of indoctrination would trigger a three strikes and you're out mechanism. All it would take is a credible report by a student - e.g. an audio or video recording which would be acceptable as proof if backed up by a witness. I'm making it up as I go but you guys get the general idea.

Indoctrination is accumulative and our educational systems have turned into a liberal echo chamber. My estimate is that over 90% of students leaving the current system turn into democratic first time voters. It's not unusual for young people to be more left leaning - I myself was more on the left as a youngster. But it's another to continue allowing them to heavily shift the numbers in their favor.

By the way, an ancillary aspect of this is the ongoing emasculation of young boys/men. How to address that is more complex but killing political correctness would be one major step forward. How do we ensure that political leaning does not affect your grades? How do we ensure that little boys are allowed to get a little rough with each other? Perhaps setting up an inverse quota system makes sense - the Left always complains when women are under represented in a particular industry. So how about the fact that a majority of Kindergarten and Great School teachers nowadays are women?

Love your avatar by the way - gives me the giggles every time.

[stugatz]

(under 250, but I need to say this. this is my final post on here this election season - will build my post count up elsewhere. This forum has kept me going this election season. Thanks guys.)

Thank god for the Electoral College - we won. Clinton's incompetent campaign would have limped into victory otherwise. The popular vote was about even, which is too close for comfort. Time is of the essence and we need to do these two things first:

1. Constitutional amendment for Voter ID, if at all possible. Near-complete takeover of the state legislatures just happened. Are the numbers in our favor to do it?
2. Fill the Supreme Court vacancy, and replace Kennedy and Ginsburg when they retire (which is imminent). A 7-2 majority will pay dividends down the road, and if Trump serves two terms, that seven could get even more red if Thomas and Alito are replaced by young conservatives.

Sadly, a constitutional amendment for marriage to be defined as a man and a woman is probably going too far in victory at this point. Enough people are pro-gay and it wouldn't end well. Wait first.

What we need to look at for our voting possibilities in the future are the demographics right now (throwing out the illegals will help). What I think we have:

Greatest Generation (1901-1925) - less than 10 million?
Silent Generation (1926-1945) - 47 million?
Baby Boomers (1946-1964) - 76 million
Generation X (1965-1980) - 55 million
Millennials (1981-1997) - 66 million
Generation Z (1998-2014) - 69 million

I know the dying Greatest and Silent Generations are socially conservative, fiscally they all loved FDR and I assume hated Reagan for that reason. Not sure how many broke for Trump (my 84-year-old grandmother was horrified by him and went for Johnson).

Baby Boomers are beginning to die off but were the generation that went for Trump, mostly. Not that many will die off in the next four years, but the process will begin (mainly, anyone born before 1950, before the boom kicked into *very* high gear).

Not sure about Generation X, they were socially liberal but not SJW (came of age in the 1980s and in the early 1990s when grunge rock was king).

Millennials, from what I gather, are divided enough to be positively influenced by Trump (and they're at that malleable age - Obama's failures certainly influenced me in my early 20s). The older ones tend to be quite liberal, the ones born after 1990 seem to be more conservative than they let on.

Is Generation Z as conservative as I hear? (The 18-year-olds who voted for the first time last week were of that generation.)

I'm mainly hoping that four years of Trump will shift enough millennials and Generation Zers to make up for any dead baby boomers (or possibly replace them in greater numbers). and, of course, the #trumpbabyboom.

[Libertas]

Millennials are the most numerous generation now, unfortunately, but they're divided. I actually think exactly the opposite based on my own experience and from everyone I've seen. The 80's born Millennials that remember the 90's are somewhat normal. They were all on the Obama train in 2008 when they (and I) came of voting age but a ton of them feel like he let them down. It's the 90's born Millennials now getting out of the universities that are the biggest problems.

Speaking of the left and all, I came across a "protest" yesterday. It was pretty boring and low energy.

This was obviously one of the smaller ones, but if this is their routine it explains why they lost and will continue to lose at this rate. For the moment, we have the upper hand in persuasion. We just need to think of the longer term, which is why we need an immigration bill in the first 100 days, and not just dealing with illegal immigration.

[nomadbrah]

(11-15-2016 10:56 AM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

[*]Keep making fun of the left. They need to look like a joke. A good example - there's a video of a protester being hit by a car at night while protesting on a HIGHWAY. That's just dumb. Make them look dumb.
[*]Get involved in culture. The left had a lot of victories because they dominated pop culture, and as Andrew Breitbart said - politics is downstream from culture. The most you can do is create your own cultural works. Or you can spread the message (I have personally gotten 3 people to buy Roosh's free speech book. It helps that there's a blurb in there about me ). At the very least - keep memeing
[/list]

These two are by far the most important. There is nothing like humor, something I've realized over the last couple of years, not just because of Trump. You can blow the Overton window wide open if you can make people laugh. Humor is a weapon of mass destruction in these things. Laugh at your opponent, ridicule them and make others laugh with you. What we need is every funny guy to join in.

[LeoneVolpe]

^ Very true, and now more than ever this might be important to keep in mind:

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[amity]

(11-15-2016 04:37 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(11-15-2016 10:56 AM)Kid Strangelove Wrote:  

[*]Keep making fun of the left. They need to look like a joke. A good example - there's a video of a protester being hit by a car at night while protesting on a HIGHWAY. That's just dumb. Make them look dumb.
[*]Get involved in culture. The left had a lot of victories because they dominated pop culture, and as Andrew Breitbart said - politics is downstream from culture. The most you can do is create your own cultural works. Or you can spread the message (I have personally gotten 3 people to buy Roosh's free speech book. It helps that there's a blurb in there about me ). At the very least - keep memeing
[/list]

These two are by far the most important. There is nothing like humor, something I've realized over the last couple of years, not just because of Trump. You can blow the Overton window wide open if you can make people laugh. Humor is a weapon of mass destruction in these things. Laugh at your opponent, ridicule them and make others laugh with you. What we need is every funny guy to join in.

I think this is key.
I'm not on Facebook but on Twitter I've changed tack of late.
Nowadays instead of throwing up serious redpill articles which get barely any reaction from people, I've decided it's better to use humour instead.
Twitter is a godsend for this stuff, I've been retweeting pisstake tweets from SJW parody accounts (like Godfrey Elwick for instance) instead of using more weighty youtube clips or alt-right articles which require more time and effort to digest.
A shitpost from Godfrey (or some of the other shitlords he retweets himself) is more likely to amuse people and in these days of short attentions spans, is probably a better way to hit the youth and make them laugh while also subtly planting some seeds of doubt in their heads about the SJW insanity all around them.

[redpillage]

^^^ Brilliant points and perhaps another way of putting it is this: We learned how to game women by treating them like children, by negging them, escalating them, and a host of other red pill tactics. Why should we treat the Left any different? After all most of them are either women or manginas.

We tried to convince them via logic and facts and it failed miserably. Then Trump, master of all shitlords, stepped up and showed us how it's done: he inverted every single tenet of polity and rode the red pill all the way into the White House.

[greekgod]

(11-15-2016 05:23 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

^^^ Brilliant points and perhaps another way of putting it is this: We learned how to game women by treating them like children, by negging them, escalating them, and a host of other red pill tactics. Why should we treat the Left any different? After all most of them are either women or manginas.

We tried to convince them via logic and facts and it failed miserably. Then Trump, master of all shitlords, stepped up and showed us how it's done: he inverted every single tenet of polity and rode the red pill all the way into the White House.

Policy is for adults. The average voter has far greater emotional capacity the cognitive policy capacity. Play the music they want to hear.

This is a battle of attitude. People want to be on a winning team. People want to swagger around.

The left has destroyed their biggest emotional argument "tolerance/inclusion/minority voice" by vilifying the average white voter. They will only take the purity tests further as the boomer dem's retire. The millennials are absolute psychos. It scares people off but SWPL are afraid of being called racist. That still carries stigma for them.

How do you convert them?

Fun. Feel gooooooooood vibez man. Provide cover with "IDK man, they just seem to have a happier, more positive message"

Something the SJWs will never achieve because they are defunct, miserable witches that just got their spell of malaise and degeneracy rejected in the biggest popularity contest the world has ever seen.

This isn't to do with Reagan whatsoever but I believe Trump signals a return to 80s era optimism. Infectious, boisterous, upbeat, and hip. I'll even go so far to say that dating might change.

The age of nihilism is over. No more sunken chests.

Proud chests, welcome to the age of optimism.

[redpillage]

^^^

Good stuff, thanks greeekgod. I wanted to add one more thought: Remember that success has many fathers and failure is an orphan. We have to be crystal clear and confident about the fact that we WON this battle and that the right is going to set the tone politically over the coming four years, and with a lot of hard work for the coming eight years. Confidence, a positive and proactive approach, and if nothing else results are most convincing.

[Rhyme or Reason]

Double Red Pillage alert!

As far as using humor goes, that's exactly what swept Trump into the white house.

Meme's are a far more effective form of propaganda than a 3 page article on HBD or Evo Psyche, simply because they deny the leftists ability to counter with the usual snark / dimissivenesss, and mockery.

"Omg, wow just wow, did you seriously just say that? Don't you know it's the current year!?"

It denies them the opportunity to use that rhetorical tool.

Meme's don't appeal to our greater intellect, quite the opposite. They don't need explanation, or acceptance.

They simply are.

And that's precisely why they've been so effective.

[nomadbrah]

And the reason lulz work more than ever is because SJWs have sucked the fun out of everything.

[WeekendCasanova]

When dealing with anyone on the left, it's important to discuss in terms of emotions, and morality, not facts and reality. Their irrational brains simply can't compute factual evidence discovered through pragmatic analysis.

[greekgod]

(11-15-2016 06:44 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

^^^

Good stuff, thanks greeekgod. I wanted to add one more thought: Remember that success has many fathers and failure is an orphan. We have to be crystal clear and confident about the fact that we WON this battle and that the right is going to set the tone politically over the coming four years, and with a lot of hard work for the coming eight years. Confidence, a positive and proactive approach, and if nothing else results are most convincing.

Yep, results do matter. And the most important way to display results is the proper mouthpiece.

That is the battle. Everyone knows the narrative is taking on water, sinking, listing to one side but the MSM is bailing buckets to salvage the wreckage.

The new media is the key.

After the new media it goes to messaging and utilizing key "truths" to unveil the light. Myself, I believe I have identified where I can make the biggest impact personally. The great thing about the culture of the current year is that it requires so much energy and reinforcement to prop up. Its grating.

For example, and I don't say this lightly because it dismantles what initially brought us together but say someone does a documentary on female happiness. Mom's vs. Sex in the City girls.

The reality is; being a parent will always be more fulfilling than casual sex regardless of gender. Something so universal, so obvious yet millions have swallowed the pink cosmo flavored lie.

The map forward is clear. Pinpoint the lie, highlight the truth, and profit.

The key is in how the truth is presented. It can't be ROK bitter red pills. It has to be happy warrior red pills.

Another undertaking which can immediately be taken on is New Balance. The secret society. A wink, a nod, and a confirmation that the stranger wearing those foam bottomed kicks is team MAGA. That is cultural power.

And guess what? When a CEO sees that NB has tremendous brand loyalty and revenue increases of 10-15%, all the sudden he starts rethinking his go to market strategy.

And on and on it goes.

The #1 item you must practice with some of the points I just made is discretion. A SJW is cultivated so you must do the same. Don't tell someone your going to change their mind, just nudge them, and soon they too will want to MAGA.

[John Michael Kane]

No long-term solution to the libtard madness we currently find ourselves in is complete without having a wife and LOTS OF KIDS. Simply put, the future belongs to those who show up. Either find yourself a pro-Trump/pro-family girl (yes they still exist!) and wife her up/put buns in her oven.

Don't apologize for who you are and what you want.

You be surprised how many girls I've met who are taken aback by my boldness. I've literally told women before that if we fall in love, I'm going to give her the cutest babies in the world, and that it is her job to give me children. Never underestimate the value of playful sexism! Women don't like bossy, crude men. They like playful men who "put them in their place".

If a girl has no sense of the value of human life, and her womb, then she is disconnected from her nature. Hard next! Move on till you find the right American (or European, Asian, etc. girl) who is either a native in your home country, or import her if needed. The bottom line is, if you want to avoid fighting a civil war, you need to stockpile bullets, but but also stuff your wife's belly.

[LeoneVolpe]

I've been having some interesting discussions with fellow RVF'ers in the "Star Wars: Rogue One comes out in December" thread in "Everything Else."

Part of the reason the left have been so successful at subverting our culture is through its use of mainstream media and Hollywood propaganda. We've already seen the recent success of alternative media sites like Breitbart and Drudge, perhaps it's time for us to start venturing into the entertainment realm as well.

(11-12-2016 05:48 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

The "Star Wars" franchise is lost, it's gone over to the dark side -- SJWism/identity politics. This film marks the second time in two years, a "strong, independent woman" supported by benevolent minority characters come up against what leftists consider to be the ultimate evil...white males.

It's probably too much to hope for that "Rogue One" will bomb like feminist "Ghostbusters," but I hope it makes significantly less money than the last "Star Wars" film did. The only way Hollywood will stop churning out this garbage is once it starts affecting their bottom line. I, for one, will not spend my hard-earned money funding this type of "entertainment."

We have so much talent on our side, we need to start writing/producing our own red pill infused stories/short films and features to counter the subversive crap coming out of Hollywood.

(11-12-2016 08:23 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(11-12-2016 06:41 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(11-12-2016 05:48 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

The "Star Wars" franchise is lost, it's gone over to the dark side -- SJWism/identity politics.
(...)

Yeah, we need a new hope.
A masculine, high energy, red pill space opera or sci-fi franchise.
There should be enough literary material out there, any ideas?
- Snip -

(11-12-2016 07:19 PM)Alsos Wrote:  

(11-12-2016 06:41 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  

...A masculine, high energy, red pill space opera or sci-fi franchise.
There should be enough literary material out there, any ideas?

- Snip -

given the crybaby backlash against Trump since the election, you can expect all this SJW propaganda shoehorned into every entertainment product to soon be enhanced with gratuitous swipes at Trump and his supporters/voters, in varying degrees of unsubtlety, as new projects work their way through the production pipelines.

I wouldn't adapt anything, as it's much simpler to just write new material for the screen. Anything decent is probably already optioned.

We have loads of talent on our side, and no shortage of ideas. What's missing, frankly, is the huge pile of money needed to get projects off the ground.

(11-12-2016 10:05 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

I could be wrong on this, but I'd have to imagine there would be a number of wealthy, conservative men who would (or at least should) be interested in funding such projects. Unfortunately, I don't have the extra cash. I would love to work with some other red pill guys on writing/producing content, however.

This could be a great opportunity for us. I mean, how long has Hollywood used the medium of film to spread their degenerate bullshit far and wide? I think the time is right for us to start getting involved in this type of thing, to counteract the SJWism in modern films with our own neomasculine-inspired material. The fact our President is Donald J. Trump would suggest there is certainly a market for things politically incorrect.

We wouldn't have to start with feature-length films; well-written and easily distributed "digital shorts" might be the way to go, initially. Plus, their short length would certainly keep costs down.

(11-13-2016 01:08 AM)Alsos Wrote:  

(short version of my CAPTCHA-eaten post)

Right. And the key would be to find a way to sidestep/disintermediate the Hollywood machine whose guild rules, contracts, and other scummy business practices lock out talent and innovation.

Which I would love to see. It would take someone motivated and wealthy enough to pony up the cash to be the first mover. Sort of like Elon Musk did with the rocket launch industry. And it would also require talent and crew willing to sacrifice ever finding work in the Hollywood machine in the future - which given the number of waiter-actors and frustrated screenwriters and such, might not be a hurdle. Build an alternative un-Hollywood not bound by SAG rules or micromanaged by psychopaths or governed by an arbitrary groupthink that stifles creativity and other points of view in favor of propaganda and "safe" stories.

The point being that they'd have to be prepared to go all the way - the Hollywood machine will block the normal distribution channels for anything produced outside of it, so even sites like Amazon which disintermediate publishing would likely not sell anything from the un-Hollywood side, lest their own original productions (made under the Hollywood machine) suffer for it in retaliation.

A tall order, but I don't think it's impossible. Just need to find the right red-pilled billionaire, who doesn't merely want to produce movies but replace Hollywood itself. And it can't be a losing business proposition in the long run, when you consider how much talent is locked out due to Hollywood favoring those already plugged into the system (through nepotism, inertia, luck, and occasionally actual ability), or how much talent that is plugged in goes to waste because marketing decisions, petty interpersonal issues, nepotism/connections, guild or union rules, or other secondary concerns block them from roles or projects for which they'd be ideal - and how that often translates to needlessly underwhelming results on the screen.

This is a culture war. We need to start producing our own "counter culture" content. If we produced some great "digital shorts," perhaps we could feature them on ROK, or an ROK YouTube channel. If YouTube removes the content, we just keep posting it under different accounts, or use alternative websites. If we want to feel out the reaction before officially "endorsing" it on ROK, we can always use cat's paw accounts (not connected to ROK) to test the waters.

Initially, we should keep the length short for both budgetary reasons and to keep people engaged -- nowadays people's attention spans are shit. If the medium of film wasn't powerful, the left would've abandoned it long ago. Look at how homosexuality has gained mainstream acceptance -- which I believe is due in large part to the ever increasing number of homosexual characters portrayed on TV. If people are exposed to an idea long enough they become desensitized to it, and eventually that idea is "normalized."

Think of the positive impact we could have on our culture by spreading neomasculine content instead of leftist degeneracy.

[Elster]

Interesting approach, volpe.
Up till the early nineties, comics and specially underground ones were a vehicle of ideological. Propaganda shamelessly exploited by different factions but the left wingers exceed.
Little did people imagine that all the disgruntled kids and teens that read these would eventually become adults on social influence positions such as teaching or social help or cultural direction.