[redpillage]

(11-09-2016 12:44 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

^ Yeah when I joined I didn't realize there was already a redpillage. Had I known I probably would have chosen a different name. But if you don't care I don't care. Glad to share it with you as well...while making america great again!

I'm the handsome one.

[Phoenix]

Sorry bro, Red_Pillage wins because he has more posts in less time than you. Thus, he is more HIGH ENERGY. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Now can we please re-MAGA the thread?.

[Thrill Jackson]

^ I didn't realize their was 2, I thought one of you guys just changed pictures 8l

[nomadbrah]

The most important next step is MONUMENTALLY important, namely that off choosing a new Federal Reserve chair.

We want a non-mafia, meaning NON-JEWISH, Fed chair.

It has been 30 years. THIRTHY YEARS of jewish Federal reserve chairmen.

And the world has gone to shit while they had it, the crash in the 80s, the Dot Com crash, the housing crash.

We MUST take back control in gentile hands, people who are not beholden to international finance.

If the internet coalition (4Chan, 8Chan, Reddit, RVF, Twitterverse) pushes this agenda, then we can make sure it happens.

[fortysix]

One, among many, of the reasons that I supported a Trump presidency was that he would try to do something about Fed policy - he mentioned that he would deal with our country's over-inflated asset bubbles in the debates.

The bubble has to pop sooner or later, and it's going to pop much more painfully the longer we wait - but a correction is eminent.

If the market begins to correct, we will be receiving a lot of blowback from the opposition, talking about how Trump is ruining the economy and our country. This is inevitable. We will need to support him through this tough time, when it comes.

[TooFineAPoint]

1. Although we should still monitor the political situation, we should use the new breathing room to really get our personal affairs in order. I mean devoting 99.9% of our time and energy into building our own personal empires.

You can have so much more positive effect on other people when you yourself are a good role model. Cultivate health, wealth, knowledge, experience, and fulfilling relationships (with friends and family and also lovers).

2. Keep up the memeing (aka dance with the girl you brung). Persuasion and salesmanship and playfulness won the day over logic and explanations. We have to continue down this path to become zen masters of trolling and shaming. I never thought it possible, but it's a stronger magic than the media stranglehold.

3. Build the community tribes and encourage each other to still be skeptical of our heroes and avatars without being unnecessarily negative or gossipy.

4. If in the USA, slowly and methodically primary out the Republican cucks, big government types, and neocons. But on the down low.

5. Don't (completely) turn away the resurgence of civil liberty defending and anti-war protesting leftists. They will be activated again. Remind them that they dropped the ball over Obama but that we have a big tent. Keep close, do not fully trust, but build tacit allegiances.

6. Find common ground with libertarian non voters and barely excited Johnson voters. Convince them that the only meaningful change they will ever impart in their lifetime will be via one of the two parties (for now, for now). Inspire them to help with points 4 and 5.

7. Realize that, as sweet as this victory is, life is not going to change all that much. And most of the changes are down to you, your mindset, and your actions.

Take a breath. Be thankful for anything and everything remotely positive in your life. Resolve to enjoy your life no matter what (whether you are fighting for something better, or enjoying the fruits of your labor).

[Tigre]

For me, it will start with a simple gesture.

I'll make sure I financially support our own talent.

That might mean putting some money in Ben Garrison's Patreon.

Or donating to Right Side Broadcasting.

Or buying a book from a manosphere author.

There are a lot of good authors and commentators in our wider shitlord community. They all need to make a living. I'll do my small part to crowd fund their work.

[BortimusPrime]

Long term the only thing that will have an impact is mating and raising red pill children in a two-parent environment.

[Valentine]

(11-09-2016 12:01 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

WE SHALL NOT SHOW WEAKNESS. We just defeated them totally and utterly. Let's act accordingly. We are writing the book now.

Imagine how they would have acted had they won. I'm not going to stoop that low but at the same time I won't spent much time on 'mending fences'. They'll either get with the new program or they will be left behind. Their choice.

I'm done fucking around and I'm done making compromises.

Agreed.

(11-09-2016 12:53 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

We need to work out two things:
- How to increase parental hostility towards mainstream schooling
- How to decrease reliance of businesses on mainstream schools as a source of qualification
-- This would likely involve other independent testing services. "Separating education and qualification" so to speak.

Great point.

I think one of the passive ways this will happen is through an increase in jobs.

Because there's so little supply of jobs compared to the demand, employers can be very particular about who they'll accept and add all sorts of requirements like college degrees, years of experience, extracurricular hobby crap etc.

University education may thus be eliminated as a requirement if there is simply less applicants for every job. They can't afford to be picky, they've got a business to run and if a college dropout can do as well as a graduate then it makes no difference to their bottom line.

[Paracelsus]

(11-09-2016 12:53 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Task at hand gentlemen!

It looks like the primary task should be to smash the educational establishment.

If you trace this back, the core problem is parents speaking positively about college, and reinforcing the idea that it's a rite of passage. The statistics need to be shoved in their faces, including the countless numbers of millionaires and billionaires that were college drop-outs, and the number of low-wage or unemployed debt-ridden youth. We have to drain that source of fresh minds and money from the monster that is academia. Parents must be made to feel sick to the stomach of the idea of their kid going to college to study some fluff. It should be ranked alongside their kid getting hooked on drugs or dancing in a strip club.

We need to work out two things:
- How to increase parental hostility towards mainstream schooling
- How to decrease reliance of businesses on mainstream schools as a source of qualification
-- This would likely involve other independent testing services. "Separating education and qualification" so to speak.

There are two basic planks that Trump has already set down for action which would affect these.

First: he's planning to drop tax rates to all businesses -- large down to small -- to 15%. Very significant because the less tax you have to pay, the more you keep and often the greater the prospect you'll expand your small business -- i.e. employ more people.

Second: he's planning to core out the illegal immigrant problem. This is significant because you would then have a raft of entry-level jobs for lower middle class kids to jump into, to get a first start.

These are not the only things he needs to do. Fundamentally he needs to break the association in the middle class's mind between a college degree and a stable job. That's the fundamental delusion that the Baby Boomers and Gen X fed their kids, and which has given us a generation of university-qualified baristas who now have no other productive use of their time than to Fight The Patriarchy ™.

From memory Trump was planning to force the colleges to have some skin in the game when it comes to their graduates, i.e. force them to take some of the loss if the kid didn't get a job afterwards. If he could put this measure into practice (no fucking small task) this would kill most liberal arts degrees dead, particularly given academia is very low on job prospects already. They would simply be major losses even beyond what a university could support. It would also make universities ruthlessly follow the trends for where employment is increasing or decreasing.

Stealing from the Last Psychiatrist, though, one attitude he must grind into kids is that your career consists of leaping from stepping stone to stepping stone. You cannot, should not, afford to wait for the perfect corporate job. And if no job comes to you, you should be considering making one for yourself -- i.e. starting your own small business:

Quote:

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"I am beginning to realize that refusal [to take the insurance job] is going to have repercussions," [Scott] said. "My parents are subtly pointing out that beyond room and board, they are also paying other expenses for me, like my cellphone charges and the premiums on a life insurance policy."

Shoot/fish/barrel that Scott's a retread, but in his defense he doesn't think about life insurance policies because he was never taught to think about life insurance policies. That was going to be taken care of by the "salary plus bennies" pornography he was raised on since kindergarten. For him to now learn that a life insurance policy could also be an investment would be like slapping him with some tranny porn and yelling, "this is how it's done in the real world!"

Not unusually, his parents themselves did not follow Scott's path: his grandfather came out of the war and went to work for his father-in-law who had started a brokerage; and his Dad went to work with a friend who had just opened a factory. These men were right at the start of businesses, they didn't slide into middle management at Sterility Corp. But after taking those chances that ultimately resulted in prosperity and blah blah blah, they taught their children to do the opposite: look for new parents. Someone else to pay the life insurance policy. I submit to you that any guy who doesn't know his life insurance premium is exactly the same guy you complained had a fear of commitment and never grew up. Well, now you know why; his parents told him not to bother.

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"Scott has got to find somebody who knows someone," the grandfather said, "someone who can get him to the head of the line.

Is this Russia? This is diabolically terrible advice, it betrays a paranoid, cynical vision of reality where everything is a network, exclusionary, no one is desirable for their talent and the only thing that prevents supersuccess is not being in the right clubs or friendly with the right people. I get that those things give you an advantage, of course, but does not having them mean a career in holes?

The parents and grandparents, like so many parents today, are disappointed in the boy because he's not taking their advice, but in fact he is taking their advice all the way to its conclusion: he's holding out for the perfect corporate job. What they meant to advise him was to improvise towards a career like hopping a creek; but what they taught him to do was wait for the package.

BTW, for any women still reading this after three porn jokes: that's exactly what he's waiting for in a relationship. You're welcome. Paypal is at the bottom.

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"They are better educated than previous generations and they were raised by baby boomers who lavished a lot of attention on their children," said Andrew Kohut [the director of the Pew Research Center.]

WRONGALONGADINGDONG. They're not better educated, they just have more degrees. Were you smarter at 21 post college than your Dad was at 21? And whatever the difference, was it worth the $50k-$200k he paid to get you it? No, but every parent of a high school kid I've talked to about this says the same thing: "I know, I know, but I just want her to get that piece of paper." So work this out in your head: either this parent is a solitary genius who is the sole possessor of the knowledge that the college degree is merely a brand and not a mark of knowledge; or every employer in the world already knows this. So if we all agree the degree doesn't mean anything close to what we are pretending it means, then what's the point of piling on? Isn't this technically a Ponzi scheme?

There is no arguing with such parents, they're not going to sacrifice their kid's future by calling America's bluff, sure, I get it. I am sympathetic. But these are parents who never thought it was wrong to force their kid into violin lessons because it would help them get into college. Did it work? Of course it worked, but at what cost?

Two generations of parents have knowingly fed the Ponzi scheme while simultaneously crushing their kids' spirit.

Only an America that has a wide array of options for kids coming out of high school can break this sort of cycle. This is not beyond hope: the Internet and digital commerce has a huge array of possibilities, so long as you teach kids the right mindset.

(And lastly: the biggest change he could render in education, in one swoop, would be to retract Obama's idiotic Title IX letter. That letter is Ground Zero for the Erdely case and all the rape culture horseshit that surrounds it.)

[Paracelsus]

(11-09-2016 01:18 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

The most important next step is MONUMENTALLY important, namely that off choosing a new Federal Reserve chair.

We want a non-mafia, meaning NON-JEWISH, Fed chair.

It has been 30 years. THIRTHY YEARS of jewish Federal reserve chairmen.

And the world has gone to shit while they had it, the crash in the 80s, the Dot Com crash, the housing crash.

We MUST take back control in gentile hands, people who are not beholden to international finance.

If the internet coalition (4Chan, 8Chan, Reddit, RVF, Twitterverse) pushes this agenda, then we can make sure it happens.

In this connection, note the worrying article at Z-Hedge suggesting that Trump doesn't plan to sack Yellen. He plans to let her run out the clock until February 2018. On one hand this is a smart move since he doesn't necessarily want to start scaring all the straights right away and he'd want to get a handle on the US financial system first, but I really hope he plans on appointing Grant afterwards.

[Libertas]

Also I forgot to mention immigration. He needs to pass that immigration plan of his - get rid of chain migration and lotteries, impose quotas based on jobs, and so on. That needs to be done in the first 100 days. This is the most important thing and the bedrock of this campaign. We need to put pressure on our cuck representatives immediately on this.

And it looks like the left doesn't want peace so we're in full wartime mode still.

[nek]

(11-09-2016 12:53 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Task at hand gentlemen!

It looks like the primary task should be to smash the educational establishment.

If you trace this back, the core problem is parents speaking positively about college, and reinforcing the idea that it's a rite of passage. The statistics need to be shoved in their faces, including the countless numbers of millionaires and billionaires that were college drop-outs, and the number of low-wage or unemployed debt-ridden youth. We have to drain that source of fresh minds and money from the monster that is academia. Parents must be made to feel sick to the stomach of the idea of their kid going to college to study some fluff. It should be ranked alongside their kid getting hooked on drugs or dancing in a strip club.

We need to work out two things:
- How to increase parental hostility towards mainstream schooling
- How to decrease reliance of businesses on mainstream schools as a source of qualification
-- This would likely involve other independent testing services. "Separating education and qualification" so to speak.

This an interesting point b/c both parents and employers have relied on the schooling system to raise their children/future employees vs a more hands-on approach. Just like how parents need to invest time and effort into their kids more to ensure their future success, employers need to invest more time in their employee vetting process vs. simply making sure they check off certain boxes and look good on paper. There's plenty of incompetents that look good on paper and plenty of brilliant people that don't have the fancy "stamp of approval" known as a college degree. You can't teach intelligence.

[nomadbrah]

(11-09-2016 09:03 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-09-2016 01:18 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

The most important next step is MONUMENTALLY important, namely that off choosing a new Federal Reserve chair.

We want a non-mafia, meaning NON-JEWISH, Fed chair.

It has been 30 years. THIRTHY YEARS of jewish Federal reserve chairmen.

And the world has gone to shit while they had it, the crash in the 80s, the Dot Com crash, the housing crash.

We MUST take back control in gentile hands, people who are not beholden to international finance.

If the internet coalition (4Chan, 8Chan, Reddit, RVF, Twitterverse) pushes this agenda, then we can make sure it happens.

In this connection, note the worrying article at Z-Hedge suggesting that Trump doesn't plan to sack Yellen. He plans to let her run out the clock until February 2018. On one hand this is a smart move since he doesn't necessarily want to start scaring all the straights right away and he'd want to get a handle on the US financial system first, but I really hope he plans on appointing Grant afterwards.

Who is Grant?

[nek]

1) Continue to adhere to PRINCIPLES, not PEOPLE. No hero worship. There's great potential for Trump, but actions, not words, need to be paid the most attention.

2) STAND UP FOR WHAT'S RIGHT: Having previous experience working in a government office, I can tell you that when the Social Justice crowd have you in their sights, more often than not others that know you're being treated unfairly still won't stand up for you. This is esp. true with regard to older men. For all the hoopla they'd preach about in private, when it can to standing up to the younger women ganging up on one of the younger guys, they just cowered in their corners. Be bold. Be decent.

[Paracelsus]

(11-09-2016 09:43 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(11-09-2016 09:03 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

(11-09-2016 01:18 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

The most important next step is MONUMENTALLY important, namely that off choosing a new Federal Reserve chair.

We want a non-mafia, meaning NON-JEWISH, Fed chair.

It has been 30 years. THIRTHY YEARS of jewish Federal reserve chairmen.

And the world has gone to shit while they had it, the crash in the 80s, the Dot Com crash, the housing crash.

We MUST take back control in gentile hands, people who are not beholden to international finance.

If the internet coalition (4Chan, 8Chan, Reddit, RVF, Twitterverse) pushes this agenda, then we can make sure it happens.

In this connection, note the worrying article at Z-Hedge suggesting that Trump doesn't plan to sack Yellen. He plans to let her run out the clock until February 2018. On one hand this is a smart move since he doesn't necessarily want to start scaring all the straights right away and he'd want to get a handle on the US financial system first, but I really hope he plans on appointing Grant afterwards.

Who is Grant?

Jim Grant. I was a little tongue-in-cheek.

[greekgod]

We aren't writing policy guys. The fed, immigration, and others are thing we support but cannot ultimately control.

Now is not the time for scope creep.

What can we control? Something bigger. There are millions of them in the US and they are the backbone to the political process. You regain control of that item and you regain control of this country.

[Sp5]

Help Trump be Trump, do what he was elected to do: rebuild American infrastructure, an economy with jobs for Americans, stop foolish foreign adventures.

Watch out for the stab in the back. I am concerned about an establishment coup against Trump to impeach him and install the standard right-wing neocon Pence as president.

[Enigma]

1. Continue to discredit and destroy the mainstream media.

2. Break up the hold the Marxists have on culture. This includes creating our own culture, through memes, videos, music, art, etc., but also by encouraging others to break from the liberal Hollywood narrative. We should look to support any artist or cultural figure who is willing to speak out.

3. Getting the right candidates into Congress, the Senate, and even lower down the chain.

4. Develop ourselves, mentally, emotionally, physically, and financially. Imagine if we had 5 or 10 guys of Cernovich's caliber by next election. Fortunately, the left are lazy as fuck, as a whole. And the better we look in comparison, the more influential our message will be.

5. Don't let up. Even with Trump's election, the left is still in the lead. We haven't even made up all of our lost ground, let alone started winning.

6. Be bold. Honestly, I think more of us have to eventually step from behind the anonymity. And even if we don't, we need to be bold enough in our personal lives to give others the courage to speak out.

7. Vote with your wallet. This ties into #6. Support people who have similar values, hire people who have similar values, buy services and products from people who have similar values. The left is very blatant about this, and it's something we need to start doing more.

If we had plenty of business owners willing to hire a guy, it wouldn't matter if leftists tried to threaten your job or income. Your employer either wouldn't care or you could easily find another job with someone who's sympathetic.

On the flip side, boycott businesses who are openly against us.

To be clear, this doesn't mean you never associate with people who have different opinions. But if we can remove the financial hold the left has, it will make a massive difference. Ultimately, most of these companies just care about making money, and the average joe just cares about keeping his job.

[redpillage]

(11-10-2016 01:54 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

1. Continue to discredit and destroy the mainstream media.

2. Break up the hold the Marxists have on culture. This includes creating our own culture, through memes, videos, music, art, etc., but also by encouraging others to break from the liberal Hollywood narrative. We should look to support any artist or cultural figure who is willing to speak out.

3. Getting the right candidates into Congress, the Senate, and even lower down the chain.

4. Develop ourselves, mentally, emotionally, physically, and financially. Imagine if we had 5 or 10 guys of Cernovich's caliber by next election. Fortunately, the left are lazy as fuck, as a whole. And the better we look in comparison, the more influential our message will be.

5. Don't let up. Even with Trump's election, the left is still in the lead. We haven't even made up all of our lost ground, let alone started winning.

6. Be bold. Honestly, I think more of us have to eventually step from behind the anonymity. And even if we don't, we need to be bold enough in our personal lives to give others the courage to speak out.

7. Vote with your wallet. This ties into #6. Support people who have similar values, hire people who have similar values, buy services and products from people who have similar values. The left is very blatant about this, and it's something we need to start doing more.

If we had plenty of business owners willing to hire a guy, it wouldn't matter if leftists tried to threaten your job or income. Your employer either wouldn't care or you could easily find another job with someone who's sympathetic.

On the flip side, boycott businesses who are openly against us.

To be clear, this doesn't mean you never associate with people who have different opinions. But if we can remove the financial hold the left has, it will make a massive difference. Ultimately, most of these companies just care about making money, and the average joe just cares about keeping his job.

I can certainly get behind all of these, a good start.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Slam the MSM all day every day.

I'm going to kick those sons of bitches so long and hard while they're down that hopefully they never get back up.

They're haemorrhaging millions already. We need to bleed them as ruthlessly as we can, particularly when they inevitably regroup and take aim at the Trump Presidency.

[Libertas]

Definitely agree with coming out of anonymity. I've already (semi) done so.

Coming out of anonymity encourages others to do so, and that pushes the Overton Window in our direction. A preference cascade. That's what we saw with Brexit and Trump.

And of course continue to destroy the media, which will do anything they can to unfairly undermine Trump. We must rally 'round our king and continue to do so...so long as he remains our king, that is.

You can send ideas here: https://apply.ptt.gov/yourstory/

Immigration reform in 100 days. Most important thing.

And I'm going to ask about jobs also.

[Valentine]

(11-10-2016 01:54 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

1. Continue to discredit and destroy the mainstream media.

(11-10-2016 08:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Slam the MSM all day every day.

Another thing is we need to stop calling them the mainstream media.

CNN, NBC, New York Times, Washington Post etc do not represent the majority of media consumption.

The amount of readers on InfoWars, Breitbart and Danger and Play has had has been staggering this year. They're the only ones who have been proven to not be corrupt.

They don't represent the majority of the populace either. They're just some weird holier-than-thou typists who wax lyrical about social justice and everything-ism.

And just look at the lovely name they've given us - the alternative media.

It makes us sound "out there". Fringe. Home to people who wear tinfoil hats and weave elaborate conspiracy theories about how "the media are corrupt".

Fuck all that noise.

I saw a great reply on a Paul Joseph Watson tweet where he dismissed the BBC asking for an interview:


This is the sentiment we need the hammer home.

Fuck all those news channels, newspapers, Hollywood, celebrities and more who have lied to us and manipulated at every turn.

Starting today, I implore all of you to never call them the mainstream media again.

The new term?

I used to call them the leftist or globalist media to friends, but this term hasn't and likely will never reach widespread usage because all leftists recoil from it.

Instead we need something more subtle, which is condescending but to the companies themselves rather than to the left so they are able to distance themselves from it and instead turn to our preferred media sources.

My suggestion: they are the Old Media.

They're dying, insane, senile old blowhards who are struggling to get by and ridiculously out of touch with reality.

In contrast we are the New Media.

We're young, smart, attractive and highly clued up about all matters from technology to politics.

We stay on top of all the trends and keep our ears close to the ground, outworking everyone with HIGH ENERGY and staying ahead.

Funnily enough, we're the mainstream now, so the rest of the world better get used to it.

[Irenicus]

(11-09-2016 12:14 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Good stuff. It seems there are 3 main points of focus:
1. Education (the big one). We've talked a lot about this here already, but now we'd have the wind to our back.
2. Entertainment.
3. The press/media. This one has actually taken huge progress, thanks to the internet and men like Roosh, as well as sites like this and places like 4chan.

So primarily (1), it's the big one. But the question of (2) would need to be addressed.

As far as I can see, work on these two points has already been started:



1. Education - blogs (like ROK), and various online courses (which are politics free) are getting traction.


2. Entertainment - a lot of people noticed that the more PC incorrect a PC game, or a movie is, the more popular it becomes. Take a look at for example South Park. It has become even more popular because it mocks PC culture.


3. Press/media - as you have said, it is evident that the MSM is failing, and will continue to fail (less people will take them seriously after all the crap they said during this election and Brexit). At the same time, Alex Jones, Milo and Mike are getting more traction by every single day



A lot of work has been completed, but the war is not over, so it is important that we do not get complacent.

[Rhyme or Reason]

^ Entertainment is one we've never been able to push on hard enough, because major Hollywood studios have all the money. Up until now no one with deep pockets would dared have funded a right wing entertainment outlet. We need to start our own comedy shows, musical acts, ect. This will take awhile to establish.

Regarding the media, what other actionable steps can be taken hasten their decline? They're already on the back foot, so what can we do to press that advantage and push them off the cliff into irrelevance?