I see this as just the start. All the leftists are still in place and will continue to do damage. Trump will do what he can to reverse the damage, but there is only so much he can do. He is the leader, not the all-doer.

So my question to the forum is: under the generalship of Donald Trump, what can we all now do to assist him?

Whatever we can do, in America or outside it, to help his war effort against the establishment, will help drive it further, deeper, and faster.

Hold his feet to the fire and loudly demand that he stay focused on fixing corruption while attacking any attempt he makes that would weaken civil liberties.

I'm dead serious.

That. We need to keep our memes and our autist reporting ongoing. We are the new democracy.

And also, I think we should encourage, as much as possible, a gracious and magnanimous victory, otherwise we'll just keep being at each others' throats.

And we need to keep going after the regressives. We need to make the Democratic Party the party of Bernie Sanders (for the most part) and root out the cultural Marxism.

Be gracious in victory, especially IRL. Nothing goes further to MAGA than offering an open hand in solidarity as one nation. And if people refuse it, you know you did your best.

Yep, because all that worked so great before, right?

You'd all like to pretend now is the time to chill out and hold out an olive branch to the enemy? Fuck that right off. Did Obama do that? Or did he spend every year pressing the leftist agenda, driving the stake deeper?

This is a reactionary movement, not a pussy conservative one.

Lets hear some practical ideas beyond "kumbaya the enemy".

Quote: (11-09-2016 10:14 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Yep, because all that worked so great before, right?

You'd all like to pretend now is the time to chill out and hold out an olive branch to the enemy? Fuck that right off. Did Obama do that? Or did he spend every year pressing the leftist agenda, driving the stake deeper?

This is a reactionary movement, not a pussy conservative one.

Lets hear some practical ideas beyond "kumbaya the enemy".

Sort of. I'm on the side of knowing and understanding the issues enough to obliterate liberals when something is addressed or brought up.

Obviously our actual politicians need to go on the attack politically.

But I don't think in our personal lives we necessarily should go on the attack like they have done for 40 years. That's part of my philosophy that makes me a Trump supporter...don't preach to me and stay the fuck outta my life, but if you bring something up, I'll annihilate you with facts.

I'm not going to become an annoying liberal in my behavior. I game them.

Game and tease comedically
Actually discuss if they engage

Example:
Lib: Makes a (not funny) joke about how Donald wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans out.
Me: (laugh, chuckle) Right, he's such a dick...all they're trying to do is pursue a better life...we should build a bridge and a few airport escalator runway things into Texas and Arizona. Why do we even have a border?

Layer on enough amplification so they get the joke and want to engage. In that case, if the get it "well I'm not sure we get rid of the border entirely" you can respond "oh, well that's what Hillary wanted".

This actually works with all liberal policies, since they're all derived from government force.

Unemployment: 99 weeks? We should increase it to like 50 years...or lifetime.
Minimum wage: We should increase it to $75 per hour.
National health care: Agreed...you shouldn't be able to pay for doc or hospital or procedure like in Dental. We all vote on what types of services are acceptable or not. Get in line bitch. (looking for better ideas here)
Corporate taxes: We should increase them to like 90% (ya know, like in the 70s)...corporate bastards.

My position is to be gracious if possible, but if they attack in their usual Year Zero way, you crush them again.

Ultimately we still need to live together, though there's certainly still some mopping up to do.

Quote: (11-09-2016 10:22 AM)heavy Wrote:  

But I don't think in our personal lives we necessarily should go on the attack like they have done for 40 years. That's part of my philosophy that makes me a Trump supporter...don't preach to me and stay the fuck outta my life

Sure, but the problem is they don't stay the fuck out of the lives of the young and impressionable.

At the very least we should be doing something to attack the education establishment and (figuratively) gut those scumbags. There should be professors stood in soup kitchen queues because all the students have put down the philosophy textbooks and picked up a saw or a MIG welder.

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Sure, but the problem is they don't stay the fuck out of the lives of the young and impressionable.
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I see your point, far more after watching this Dinesh D'souza speech (I posted in the libertarian thread a few days ago):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHajAWdGTfg

He talks about how Republicans/conservatives/libertarians don't have Hollywood, the press, and education because we have a hands-off philosophy...that has allowed the democrats to run all over us.

We need to take our culture back. It's a huge problem that will probably take several decades, but we have to start somewhere. Liberal control of education and entertainment are the two major beasts we need to take down.

I don't know how to accomplish everything, but I intend to channel my personal efforts into educating young men, to teach them how to be men.

Quote: (11-09-2016 10:28 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

My position is to be gracious if possible, but if they attack in their usual Year Zero way, you crush them again.

Ultimately we still need to live together, though there's certainly still some mopping up to do.

They have no intention of living with us, so we need to prepare more than an olive branch. Their most deadly attacks aren't the immediate attacks, they're the cultural attacks where the effects aren't properly felt for another 20 years.

Their line of "attack" in the face of Trump's victory will be to retreat back to Academia and the media establishment to try and consolidate their grip on the minds of the Americans of the future.

We must deny them this at all costs, or any victory will be pyrrhic or altogether short-lived.

Now is also the time to start organising witch-hunter-hunts. There needs to be some kind of organisation which tries, to the limits of what is legal, to destroy those who instigate witch hunts. These should be our top 2 priorities: to claw back the culture and institutions.

WE SHALL NOT SHOW WEAKNESS. We just defeated them totally and utterly. Let's act accordingly. We are writing the book now.

Imagine how they would have acted had they won. I'm not going to stoop that low but at the same time I won't spent much time on 'mending fences'. They'll either get with the new program or they will be left behind. Their choice.

I'm done fucking around and I'm done making compromises.

Quote: (11-09-2016 11:45 AM)weambulance Wrote:  

We need to take our culture back. It's a huge problem that will probably take several decades, but we have to start somewhere. Liberal control of education and entertainment are the two major beasts we need to take down.

I don't know how to accomplish everything, but I intend to channel my personal efforts into educating young men, to teach them how to be men.

It won't take that long. Women are very malleable and they usually follow the alpha males. It's in our hands now. No excuses.

Be wary of what Obama can do in 2 months, and of sjw/blm riots. Is there way of making him a lame duck? A discount on a golf vacation? Videotape any violence you see and make it go viral with cernovich or someone with a huge twitter following.

Quote: (11-09-2016 09:07 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

And also, I think we should encourage, as much as possible, a gracious and magnanimous victory

Quote: (11-09-2016 09:21 AM)dicknixon72 Wrote:  

Be gracious in victory, especially IRL

No.

Not this time.

For as long as I can remember, shitlibs were horribly ungracious in victory and squalid in defeat. We always took the high road...not anymore.

We were laughed at, mocked and put on blast when we lost our country to Obama and his progressive agenda. They took joy in seeing you suffer if you dare held opposing views, and you bet your ass they'd be doing the same had they won.

It's not enough that they were allowed to push our civilization to the brink. They had to let us know just how gleeful they were about it, and how there was nothing we could do to stop it.

This time they are going to be mocked mercilessly out in the open.

This time they are the one's who are going to feel unwelcome, old or out of touch with reality.

Remember when Mittens lost in 2012? "Republican Tears"?


Libcuck tears this time. And they will flow like the Mississippi!


Get out there and shame a leftist today.

Good stuff. It seems there are 3 main points of focus:
1. Education (the big one). We've talked a lot about this here already, but now we'd have the wind to our back.
2. Entertainment.
3. The press/media. This one has actually taken huge progress, thanks to the internet and men like Roosh, as well as sites like this and places like 4chan.

So primarily (1), it's the big one. But the question of (2) would need to be addressed.

Also this thread just took a double dose of RED PILLAGE. Apparently we have 2 users of that name. Both with equal 24 rep points! High energy!

Education is the biggest issue IMO. It's a multipart problem.

Starting with parents: why do they essentially leave raising their kids up to their schools? Parents spend 1/3 the time with their kids that the schools have them, and that ends once they go to college. It's a major problem, one I don't know how to solve because it's considered outright weird to do anything else. This is the sort of thing that could be influenced through entertainment, I suppose.

Schools and colleges are controlled by women and socialist men. Primary school teachers are 80% women, and the unions basically serve as a way to keep the "right people" employed as teachers. A man like me would never make it as a teacher as things are now: they would simply sabotage my career, fire me, and the union would tell me to fuck off if I asked for help.

Colleges, of course, are liberal echo chambers and serve primarily as indoctrination centers. That wouldn't matter if businesses didn't demand that people have degrees. But even jobs the average smart 12 year old could do demand a BS/BA, and I've seen plenty of job listings where they want a Masters. It's a market driven problem, the market demands degrees for shit as simple as data entry and that plays right into the liberals' hands. How do we change that? I have no idea.

The only concrete steps I see off the top of my head are disbanding the Department of Education and allowing federal student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy. I'm sure there are others, but they're not coming to mind at the moment.

I think the way entertainment is going its all streaming, and small shorts. I think eventually movies will stop being so popular. This type of entertainment is much cheaper to produce, and I hope it will finally attract nationalist film makers. There has a been a blacklist in Hollywood for too long for conservatives, so perhaps it can simply be bypassed with youtube and twitter entertainment.

I'm not saying we should relax or that it's all over, but consider the fact that the establishment threw everything they had at us.

Everything.

The media bias this time was super shameless. The propaganda and rhetoric they used to try to smear us was unprecedented.

And they still lost.

They must be demoralized as hell right now. It's hard to imagine the media being able to use the race / sex card effectively anymore after an outcome like this.

Quote: (11-09-2016 12:11 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

Not this time.

For as long as I can remember, shitlibs were horribly ungracious in victory and squalid in defeat. We always took the high road...not anymore.

We were laughed at, mocked and put on blast when we lost our country to Obama and his progressive agenda. They took joy in seeing you suffer if you dare held opposing views, and you bet your ass they'd be doing the same had they won.

It's not enough that they were allowed to push our civilization to the brink. They had to let us know just how gleeful they were about it, and how there was nothing we could do to stop it.

This time they are going to be mocked mercilessly out in the open.

This time they are the one's who are going to feel unwelcome, old or out of touch with reality.

Remember when Mittens lost in 2012? "Republican Tears"?


Libcuck tears this time. And they will flow like the Mississippi!


Get out there and shame a leftist today.

Not only that. They happily destroy your life if you even accidentally say the wrong thing or somehow offend their fragile feelings. Remember Matt Tyler the NASA engineer who found himself in a world of hurt after wearing the wrong t-shirt?



I don't know but I have a feeling he voted Trump last night. And I hope he was wearing that shirt.

This is our chance to dismantle the Marxist machinery that has been put in place over the past two decades. Let's not blow it and let's also not get suckered into making half-assed compromises, shall we?

Quote: (11-09-2016 12:32 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

I'm not saying we should relax or that it's all over, but consider the fact that the establishment threw everything they had at us.

Everything.

The media bias this time was super shameless. The propaganda and rhetoric they used to try to smear us was unprecedented.

And they still lost.

They must be demoralized as hell right now. It's hard to imagine the media being able to use the race / sex card effectively anymore after an outcome like this.

There is no better time to strike than when your opponent is demoralised. Without applying continual pressure, and never letting up, they will not remain demoralised for long.

This isn't the end, but it is our best opportunity to fight.

Quote: (11-09-2016 12:15 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

Also this thread just took a double dose of RED PILLAGE. Apparently we have 2 users of that name. Both with equal 24 rep points! High energy!

I coined the term, but I'm happy to share it with my brother in arms.

^ Yeah when I joined I didn't realize there was already a redpillage. Had I known I probably would have chosen a different name. But if you don't care I don't care. Glad to share it with you as well...while making america great again!

Task at hand gentlemen!

It looks like the primary task should be to smash the educational establishment.

If you trace this back, the core problem is parents speaking positively about college, and reinforcing the idea that it's a rite of passage. The statistics need to be shoved in their faces, including the countless numbers of millionaires and billionaires that were college drop-outs, and the number of low-wage or unemployed debt-ridden youth. We have to drain that source of fresh minds and money from the monster that is academia. Parents must be made to feel sick to the stomach of the idea of their kid going to college to study some fluff. It should be ranked alongside their kid getting hooked on drugs or dancing in a strip club.

We need to work out two things:
- How to increase parental hostility towards mainstream schooling
- How to decrease reliance of businesses on mainstream schools as a source of qualification
-- This would likely involve other independent testing services. "Separating education and qualification" so to speak.