[MongolianAbroad]

(01-19-2017 03:20 PM)Saladin Wrote:  

Yeah, if you're Mr. Average White Guy, you're going to be affected by more foreigners in your city. But if you're a 1% guy, that's not going to hurt you.

By the way, the reason I have this mindset is from hanging out with friends who crush it in cities like Toronto and the toughest cities. They're all top 1% guys. And they fuck 8-9s regularly. That's what happens when you're ripped, have a central crib, a solid frame, and razor sharp confidence. At that point every city is a great city and all this talk about "the decline" sounds like whining.

(Also I don't think Toronto is that tough if you're a top tier guy... there is a lot of quality walking around, the hard part is becoming a top tier guy. Much better than DC where there's much less quality).

There's no way your friends are dating girls that don't smoke, don't drink alcohol, are 18 to 24, have no tattoos, have good relationships with their families, are gorgeous, humble, and decent human beings "regularly."

Because that's an 8 or a 9 to me.

If I change my definition of an 8 or 9 to "hot chick, right above a 7" then yes, anyone who's got a good combination of looks/game/lifestyle can bang "8's and 9's," including myself, in the West. But then we're just mentally masturbating by calling what we're banging an 8 or a 9 to make ourselves look good, when what we're really banging is a girl with major psychological issues that will only get worse with age.

I call bullshit.

Regarding yourself and your friends being in the top 1%, if you're talking top 1% of males in the U.S., for example, that would mean your friends are over 6'3" tall, have chiseled looks, and make somewhere around 450k a year. Canada would be something similar. You're not hanging out with that crew, if you were you would not be posting here.

I call bullshit.

You're saying if you're in the top 1% you can get the top tier, but you're not in the top 1%, so you're pulling this statement out of thin air.

Being ripped, having a central crib, a solid frame, and razor sharp confidence does NOT put you in the top 1% in the West. It makes you a dime a dozen in most major downtown areas of the U.S. Still in the top, that's the city's core after all, but not in the top 1%.

Your whole post is male hamstering. The problems in the West are real, and you can hamster them away with "I'm top 1% and my friends and I are banging 8's and 9's on the reg," but it's bullshit.

You're not top 1%, you're not making 450k a year, you aren't banging 8's and 9's "on the reg," and neither are your friends.

You're like 24 years old or so, you're not top 1%, and neither are your friends, unless you're genetically very blessed, inherited a ton of cash, and somehow racked up enough life experiences in the 6 years after high school to gain that "razor sharp confidence" you and your friends have.

I call bullshit.

You're slogging it out, just like the rest of us, in this mess that is the West. That's why you're on the RooshV Forum.

I don't mean to be this harsh on you, man, but your post just felt like you were blowing out everyone else's candle to make yours shine brighter, and that's just not necessary.

Guys here, yourself included, are working hard to improve, but let's face it, for getting pleasant, beautiful, young, healthy girls without psychological issues or drug/alcohol problems who haven't been around the block, the West is game on Very Difficult mode, while many parts of the rest of the world are game on Easy or Very Easy mode, often for higher quality, sometimes much, much higher quality.

There's nothing wrong with that. It doesn't make anyone less of a man for choosing to not put in the work required to be "Top 1%" like you and your 24-ish year old friends.

But I have to call bullshit.

[Kaizen]

^ Co sign the Above

Living in the West and claiming it's all peaches and cream is like being seated in the back row of economy near the toilet with a seat that doesn't recline and claiming things are just fine.

They aren't fine. Business class is better (i.e. Living Abroad)

Of course do the best you can if you're stuck in the West. But let's call a spade a spade..it's shit here.

I usually don't respond to those who defend the West/Toronto, but always wonder about the poster:

Where have you travelled? If you've gotten on a plane before and aren't blind, you know the score.

What are your results here? A girl a month? that would be 5 a month overseas. However a guy does in the West can easily be multiplied many fold, if the same guy went abroad. And that's only comparing numbers, not the caustic attitudes one has to deal with in the West.

Knowing the caliber of men here that struggle (which I define as not spinning multiple plates), Id love to meet these 1% guys and the '8s & 9s' they are banging on the regular.

[godzilla]

+20 to the two posts. Great post by spaniard. I only disagree with one thing.

The west(America and Canada) is full of "top 1% guys" who have shit game, look amazing, great status and still only bang 6s on the regular. That's what makes so hard for us common folk trying to find a decent ass girl.

[Dantes]

Great perspectives in this thread and I am glad to see it picking up again.

It is well established that the West can be difficult and a grind. There are greener pastures abroad, for sure.

The key is to extract all the advantages from the West (financial opportunities, comfort, time with friends and family) and carve out a lifestyle conducive to traveling as much as possible, if that is your preference. Focus on making your time in the West productive.

I believe the OP's point is that we should not focus on the negatives of a given location, but rather energize our development to become the best versions of ourselves.

We should all by now understand that the West is not optimal for finding sweet, feminine women suitable for relationships and marriage. However, the struggle with becoming good with women in the West will pay dividends when you find yourself in more pleasant locations.

The goal should be to less of an emphasis on "Gaming" techniques, with more focus on living life on your on terms, to which woman everywhere inevitability find desirable.

[MongolianAbroad]

(02-25-2017 06:33 PM)Kaizen Wrote:  

What are your results here? A girl a month? that would be 5 a month overseas. However a guy does in the West can easily be multiplied many fold, if the same guy went abroad. And that's only comparing numbers, not the caustic attitudes one has to deal with in the West.

This.

Whatever a guy's results are in the West, that same guy can do several points higher on looks, and several points higher on values, abroad.

The catch, as Dantes points out, is bringing your income with you abroad, and that's where things get more nuanced.

There was an excellent post on this a while back, regarding when/if a man should go abroad or not, and the poster actually broke it down by numbers/income. If I see it again, I'll copy it over on this thread.

[MongolianAbroad]

(02-25-2017 07:20 PM)Dantes Wrote:  

The goal should be less of an emphasis on "Gaming" techniques, with more focus on living life on your on terms, to which woman everywhere inevitability find desirable.

Couldn't agree more.

[silvera]

GE,

In a similar response to your “man up” I’m wondering if you would like to perhaps share some photos of you at dinner or so on with the lovely ladies you have bedded recently? Surely you should have at least a few pictures. It is not uncommon, in fact I might even say it is entirely common, for members of a forum to upload pictures of themselves.

Failing that, how about you PM me?

Failing that, perhaps we could meet up in the Philippines sometime. I personally would like to see your game in action.

Cheers

[Suits]

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

GE,

In a similar response to your “man up” I’m wondering if you would like to perhaps share some photos of you at dinner or so on with the lovely ladies you have bedded recently? Surely you should have at least a few pictures.

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

It is not uncommon, in fact I might even say it is entirely common, for members of a forum to upload pictures of themselves.

Doing so would be a violation of this forum's policy.

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

Failing that, how about you PM me?

Why would he want to dox himself to a four post wonder?

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

Failing that, perhaps we could meet up in the Philippines sometime. I personally would like to see your game in action.

I'm guessing "no."

[Cobra]

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

GE,

In a similar response to your “man up” I’m wondering if you would like to perhaps share some photos of you at dinner or so on with the lovely ladies you have bedded recently? Surely you should have at least a few pictures. It is not uncommon, in fact I might even say it is entirely common, for members of a forum to upload pictures of themselves.

Failing that, how about you PM me?

Failing that, perhaps we could meet up in the Philippines sometime. I personally would like to see your game in action.

Cheers

I would personally like you to add some value to the forum before beating your keyboard like it's your chest.

[scrambled]

(04-11-2018 06:26 AM)silvera Wrote:  

Surely you should have at least a few pictures. It is not uncommon, in fact I might even say it is entirely common, for members of a forum to upload pictures of themselves.

This ain't instagram

[TravelerKai]

I have seen at least a few of GE's girlfriends and they are very hot. He has met more people on this forum than many other members and all of us mutual friends all say the same things about him being legit. He owes you absolutely nothing.

Beat it troll.

[teddy bear]

Well, I actually feel like the "West" applies to most of the world with the exception of Africa, and leaving the west " to seek greener pastures", means go to SEA. I don't want to sound like the West defender, sure it's getting more and more broken socially, but based on insight from Ukraine, getting a +2 girl in the scale of 10 and more marriageable wife material is the least of your problems, when you have no career prospects, poor or no-job and you cannot afford basics, that most of us take for granted. Ukraine is not in such a "bad" situation, but I believe many so-called "poosy paradises" unfortunately is. And there is tons of people, that would love to swap places with us. So, before bashing the West, it would be nice to mention all the good things it provides as well.

I also wonder, what countries are you specifically talking about? Only the SEA? As it definitely seems so and based on recent reports, it's not that you can score high-quality with ease, especially as most of the girls are pretty much average. Sure, it's probably the best destination for getting laid, but then again, all kind of feminism-filled countries, that you are guys fleeing are also great to bang average and below girls. Sure, Eastern Europe and Russia provides nice quality, but I can't recall any member saying, that he was slaying in any of them, unless a few new, 8+ everyday claimers, that are banned within a few weeks and sometimes even days.

Haven't traveled much, but I believe, that pretty much everywhere around the world, with the exception of economically broken countries, you are what you eat and you bang what you are. More or less of course - some countries simply force men to date down on average, but it's still not the reason to totally give up on gaming in them. Especially when you see a guy like DigitalNomad, having no problems slaying wherever he is. Sure, he probably has top-level game and quite a lot of money, but isn't trying to get on such level worth far more than totally rejecting the West and accepting SEA as one and only suitable society, which problems outweigh those of the Western countries by a lot? I actually found this forum through self-improvement, so I was frankly anticipating more positive attitude.

I totally agree with the most said here, but I simply don't see any prospective countries that could yield much better results than the West, especially if one is to aim for a constant supply of high-quality women. Or maybe I have missed a significant part of the globe somewhere along the way.

[Global Entry]

Im not a regularly contributor anymore for my own reason but I of course value many of the regular contributors here and since I'm in Shenzhen this week and next, I thought I'd drop in and see if there are any well-repped members who might be around for a session (stole that word from Irish).

I saw this long dormant post had new "activitiy" since I'd last viewed it - and want to voice my appreciation to those of you who came to my defense. Maybe not necessary, as who cares what that noob thinks (Banned noob) - and as I have said, I have a private whatsapp group with a membership that probably boasts of 1000 Rep ppints between 11 or so members - we share pics in there, not with the likes of the Silvera's of the forum). Nonetheless, tip of the cap to you gents for putting him right. And you're right, given how busy I was with professional pursuits in the Phils, there is no chance I would have met just so I could qualify myself to a total stranger. Cheers gents.

[WombRaider]

(04-12-2018 04:20 PM)teddy bear Wrote:  

totally rejecting the West and accepting SEA as one and only suitable society

Just depends on what you're looking for. Different countries rate differently for different purposes:

1. Getting laid a lot (quantity)
2. Getting laid with beautiful women (quality)
3. Finding someone for LTR, maybe marriage (different kind of quality)
4. Making a living
5. Enjoying the lifestyle you want (pace of life, scenery, outdoor activities)
6. Etc.

Where "the West" falls down is No. 3 above IMO. Somehow that leads a lot of guys to head for SEA and look for 14 lays a week. Whatever works.