[Bacchus]

It's funny, but it's terrible game.

Let me break it down. You shouldn't have to say "No fatties or uggos" on your profile. Your profile should be so inspiring (well-written, interesting photos, etc.) that fatties and uggos despair about their chances with you upon viewing it. They should see immediately that they're not worthy. Besides, saying "no fatties, uggos, or oldies" will not interest the slim young thing.

Honestly, this should be the starting point for any profile. Disqualification and irony are the best tactics for online.

And if, while scrolling through the profiles, there's a hamster that you need to nuke, fire away.

[Delta]

POF is not the villain here. Every popular dating site in existence caters heavily toward women's collective whim and treats its male users like shit; understandably frustrating from our point of view; and they're STILL 3:1 male:female (for 20-something year olds). Imagine if they didn't.

We can dream all we want about a fair, non-gynocentric dating platform that doesn't just ask for your height and income, but also your weight and waist size; that doesn't constantly scold its male members and pretend its female members are delicate flowers that can do no wrong; that doesn't ban male members the second they rub someone the wrong way. That all sounds fantastic until the ratio goes from 3:1 to 30:1. Is that really what you'd want?

Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. Same old story. Women are more valuable and will always be treated as such; but in return, they carry around babies in their stomachs and then squeeze them out their vaginas. It's a trade-off that we all have to learn to make peace with.

[XPQ22]

(10-06-2016 12:02 AM)Delta Wrote:  

Women are more valuable and will always be treated as such; but in return, they carry around babies in their stomachs and then squeeze them out their vaginas. It's a trade-off that we all have to learn to make peace with.

It's not even that exciting or unusual a skill. Western women seem to want endless accolades heaped upon them for simply becoming a mother, when next to eating, pooping, and sex giving birth is the most common event in the world - happens literally a million times a day. Like they have a uterus made of gold that confers the ability to fly and eternal youth, or something.

[hv123]

(10-06-2016 01:15 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 12:02 AM)Delta Wrote:  

Women are more valuable and will always be treated as such; but in return, they carry around babies in their stomachs and then squeeze them out their vaginas. It's a trade-off that we all have to learn to make peace with.

It's not even that exciting or unusual a skill. Western women seem to want endless accolades heaped upon them for simply becoming a mother, when next to eating, pooping, and sex giving birth is the most common event in the world - happens literally a million times a day. Like they have a uterus made of gold that confers the ability to fly and eternal youth, or something.

Good point. If there are 7 billion plus people in the world, having a kid isn't that of an amazing achievement in and of itself really.

[CRR]

(10-06-2016 12:02 AM)Delta Wrote:  

POF is not the villain here. Every popular dating site in existence caters heavily toward women's collective whim and treats its male users like shit; understandably frustrating from our point of view; and they're STILL 3:1 male:female (for 20-something year olds). Imagine if they didn't.

We can dream all we want about a fair, non-gynocentric dating platform that doesn't just ask for your height and income, but also your weight and waist size; that doesn't constantly scold its male members and pretend its female members are delicate flowers that can do no wrong; that doesn't ban male members the second they rub someone the wrong way. That all sounds fantastic until the ratio goes from 3:1 to 30:1. Is that really what you'd want?

Sperm is cheap, eggs are expensive. Same old story. Women are more valuable and will always be treated as such; but in return, they carry around babies in their stomachs and then squeeze them out their vaginas. It's a trade-off that we all have to learn to make peace with.

Well said.

It is bizarre that nowadays women can easily have whatever standards they please whereas a man having any sort of physical preference is a misogynist.

Part of it is linguistics. Feminists have successfully adopted the term 'creepy' to apply to any guy they don't like.

Their even greater accomplishment is using the word 'education' as a code word for 'money'. To them, they're more deep because they'll consider a man's 'education' whereas men who won't do the same are sexist.

But what that really translates to is that a guy who is a 4 in terms of looks can miracously transform into an 8 if he has a lot of $, whereas a land whale with $ is still a land whale. Thus their thinking that they have the moral high ground. Yet in reality, since men don't care nearly as much about having material things handed to them, I'd say we do. Just be cute, petite and pleasant, and we'll hold up our end of the bargain.

Either way, at least we're honest

[eradicator]

(10-05-2016 02:22 AM)Suits Wrote:  

We need to start a covert RVF dating website.

We already have the SA private lounge.

[Delta]

(10-06-2016 01:15 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(10-06-2016 12:02 AM)Delta Wrote:  

Women are more valuable and will always be treated as such; but in return, they carry around babies in their stomachs and then squeeze them out their vaginas. It's a trade-off that we all have to learn to make peace with.

It's not even that exciting or unusual a skill. Western women seem to want endless accolades heaped upon them for simply becoming a mother, when next to eating, pooping, and sex giving birth is the most common event in the world - happens literally a million times a day. Like they have a uterus made of gold that confers the ability to fly and eternal youth, or something.

Oh I agree that the self-righteousness some women have about being a mother gets old after awhile, but that's beside my point.

My point is, we must resist the temptation to ignore the downsides of being female, otherwise we just come off like the male version of bitter feminists.

Feminists obviously are blind to the struggles of being a man and make no effort to understand, and thus they inevitably conclude time after time that "OMG GUYS HAVE IT SOOOO MUCH EASIER." If there's one thing that never fails to piss people off on a visceral level, it's having their pain and struggles denied.

Let's be better. Let's make sure we acknowledge that there are immutable upsides and downsides to being either sex, and trying to figure out who, overall, "has it worse" is a pointless and idiotic exercise. I'm not speaking to any one post in particular, but rather an overall tone I sometimes get from this community (and more so from MRAs).

Here's an excellent early-Heartiste post relating to this concept: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2007/04/...standards/

[philosophical_recovery]

Haven't been back to online dating in a while. Because it's a lot like this:

[XPQ22]

^ I keep mine active, but for most of the summer I was fairly low energy about it as I was seeing a girl regularly.

I can understand the frustration a lot of guys have, but I think if you don't keep an account active on at least a couple of sites even these days you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. I've banged friendly, good looking chicks from OKC make no mistake. Some of them opened me first. If you have a well-written, interesting profile (most guys can't write for shit), are in decent shape, and have good pictures you should have some good looking chicks opening you from time to time. And the ones who are opening you "nowadays" are often seriously interested in taking the D. There are a lot more dudes on the sites these days, but a lot of really lame dudes. I listen to the stories girls tell me about some of the dates they've been on with chodes - I don't think they're making it all up.

Is 20 minutes of extra work a day on the passive pussy stream worth banging two or three more 6 or 7s a year, with maybe some of them wanting you to keep that # in your phone and hit them up regularly going forward? I mean, for me it certainly is.

But FFS, keep your ego in check and don't go on about how you don't like fat chicks if you want the cuties to hit you up. Just delete their texts as if you ain't never seen that shit if you don't want it.

[Leonard D Neubache]

^
^ Most hilarious entry.

Quote:

"Mum to be in about a month"... "Looking to chat with someone who's not easily scared away."

"Looking to chat with someone who's not easily scared away."

Hah. As if wanting to avoid getting involved with an 8 month pregnant train wreck of a woman means you're just a big scaredy cat.

Oh, if only there were still big, brave men in this world then surely she would be able to find someone strong and manly enough to handle her "situation".

The next time I'm walking down the road and I see a big steaming pile of dog shit I wonder if I'll be "brave" enough to step in it.

[philosophical_recovery]

(10-06-2016 08:25 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

^ I keep mine active, but for most of the summer I was fairly low energy about it as I was seeing a girl regularly.

I can understand the frustration a lot of guys have, but I think if you don't keep an account active on at least a couple of sites even these days you're cutting off your nose to spite your face. I've banged friendly, good looking chicks from OKC make no mistake. Some of them opened me first. If you have a well-written, interesting profile (most guys can't write for shit), are in decent shape, and have good pictures you should have some good looking chicks opening you from time to time. And the ones who are opening you "nowadays" are often seriously interested in taking the D. There are a lot more dudes on the sites these days, but a lot of really lame dudes. I listen to the stories girls tell me about some of the dates they've been on with chodes - I don't think they're making it all up.

Is 20 minutes of extra work a day on the passive pussy stream worth banging two or three more 6 or 7s a year, with maybe some of them wanting you to keep that # in your phone and hit them up regularly going forward? I mean, for me it certainly is.

But FFS, keep your ego in check and don't go on about how you don't like fat chicks if you want the cuties to hit you up. Just delete their texts as if you ain't never seen that shit if you don't want it.

You make a good point.

I did make a few bangs of OKC a while back. May check it out again, but it would be very low effort with good pics and profile.

[MajorStyles]

I remember going to the dating site "It's just Lunch" about a decade ago. When I signed up, some middle-aged coordinator held a meeting with me. She wanted to know what I was looking for, etc. At any rate, she got butt hurt when I said, "No single mothers."

"Mr. Styles, you need to be reasonable," she retorted. Or something to that effect.

These shaming tactics have a long history; now they're just moving over to the online world.

[Mrredsquare]

(10-06-2016 07:47 PM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  

Haven't been back to online dating in a while. Because it's a lot like this:

Small world. I actually got matched with a number of them.

[CRR]

(10-06-2016 08:59 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

I remember going to the dating site "It's just Lunch" about a decade ago. When I signed up, some middle-aged coordinator held a meeting with me. She wanted to know what I was looking for, etc. At any rate, she got butt hurt when I said, "No single mothers."

"Mr. Styles, you need to be reasonable," she retorted. Or something to that effect.

These shaming tactics have a long history; now they're just moving over to the online world.

Women love to be matchmakers, professional or otherwise, yet 99 percent of them should be banned from doing so. They bring their own baggage to the situation, instead of taking a disciplined, logical approach, which of course is not the least bit surprising.

Recently became somewhat friendly with a networking contact, and his hot, feminine wife has thrown a few of her attractive friends my way, one of which I ended up having sex with on a semi-regular basis.

But that's an anomaly. Most women are purely looking out for other women, and have been brainwashed by feminism to think that while a man has to complete a checklist, all a woman has to do is show up. And if that woman has an office job, you'd be crazy to turn her down

In the end though, a man is probably better off doing his own hunting anyway. It's in our nature.

[XPQ22]

(10-07-2016 09:38 AM)CRR Wrote:  

Recently became somewhat friendly with a networking contact, and his hot, feminine wife has thrown a few of her attractive friends my way, one of which I ended up having sex with on a semi-regular basis.

But that's an anomaly. Most women are purely looking out for other women, and have been brainwashed by feminism to think that while a man has to complete a checklist, all a woman has to do is show up. And if that woman has an office job, you'd be crazy to turn her down

In the end though, a man is probably better off doing his own hunting anyway. It's in our nature.

Hats off for that success. Though girls have tried to push one of their dumpy friends my way on occasion, I'm honestly having trouble remembering a single time a girl put in any effort whatsoever to help me get laid with a cutie.

[CRR]

I've had that happen to me on several occasions, where a girl has tried to push one of their dumpy friends my way, again the main reason being that her supposed job makes her more appealing. And it used to mess with my confidence big time.

So I think my friend's wife is balancing out the universe. I do think that since coming here I do carry myself a bit differently and women can sense they won't get away with that nonsense with me anymore.

[eatthishomie]

Women will never understand what a disrespectful move that really is.

"Man am I tired of my fat dumpy friend acting like a raging cunt whenever we go out. I really need to find her something halfway resembling a man. Oh hey what about Herbert! Yeah he'd be perfect! He's probably so sex starved he'd fuck a couch crease."

And when you naturally say "hell nah I wouldn't touch her" what's the first thing they say to you?
"Well it's not like you have perfect 10 Scandanavian supermodels falling into your lap or anything Herbert!"
First thing they do is point out your lack of options which serves to unmask the straight up disrespect being masked as a favor that the fat dumpy friend unload really is. If your female friends are pulling this on you its time for monk mode real talk.

[CRR]

Actually I've almost always been setup by women who know my ex-girlfriends, so they know what type of girl I date. Yet they still try to set me up with some dumpy chick. In fact, after I broke up with probably the hottest girl I've ever dated, two separate women tried to set me up with the fattest women anyone has ever tried to set me up with. Its a strange coincidence, and also of course, appalling.

What did these fat women have in common? Both made a lot of money. I work in finance. I do fine, but I think they think I make a lot more than I do. Either way, again, I think it's that women simply think that money/status increases a woman's value as it does a man's. It's a classic example of projection.

No matter what, it is disrespectful, because it completely disregards the man's POV. But that is par for the course for feminism.

[Mushroom]

(10-07-2016 03:30 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

Hats off for that success. Though girls have tried to push one of their dumpy friends my way on occasion, I'm honestly having trouble remembering a single time a girl put in any effort whatsoever to help me get laid with a cutie.

Man, that makes me remember that last time I worked I ever worked in an office, it's been a long long time. There was this Asian broad, really hot, and really into me, but had a BF and wanted to marry him (she did eventually)... So she did the next best thing to cheating: she decided to live vicariously through her coworkers.

I never asked her to do it, but she would talk to other girls in the office to find out ones that were down to fuck me. She'd tell me which girls to go after that were easy targets. And then she'd have them tell her all about it.

She got me 4 notches out of that job.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Woman's guide to finding a match for a man.

Am I attracted to him?

Yes: Find him someone of lower SMV than me and flirt/cheat once they're an item.
No: Try to shackle one of my hotter friends to him in order to raise my status based on my own man's higher SMV.

[XPQ22]

(10-07-2016 10:35 PM)CRR Wrote:  

I've had that happen to me on several occasions, where a girl has tried to push one of their dumpy friends my way, again the main reason being that her supposed job makes her more appealing. And it used to mess with my confidence big time.

It hasn't messed with my confidence for a while.

The unfortunate thing about Western society and the women in it is that they interact with so many supplicatory, sexless chodes day in and day out that it seems to become their default position on all men - you're a loser until you put in the work to somehow prove yourself otherwise. Sometimes it feels like simply living in the heavily-feminist Northeast is itself a DLV. "Oh, well you're here, aren't you? Must mean you like the way it is"

Once you fuck a few really good-looking chicks, though, and notice that it's not even that difficult with good game and a receptive girl, you realize that what most women have on offer is pretty sad, and they're asking a stupendously high price for it.

I've been on plenty of online dates sitting next to some passable "6" in the bar who's reeling me a yarn of how she needs to have all her relationship quirks and peculiarities accommodated: "You know it just takes me sooooo long to decide if I'm attracted to a guy, and if I were attracted to him there's a complex vetting process of becoming my sixth polyamorous partner, and I should tell you in general that I'm not particularly emotionally available at the moment, and also dealing with my bankruptcy and getting accustomed to living in my parent's home again is taking up a lot of my time and..."

And what I want to say is "Cool. But you're cute enough I guess, so like, wanna suck my dick in my car in a little bit? Because girls way more attractive and intelligent than you were down for it, just sayin'." But I know that won't go over well, so I just finish my drink, smile and say something to the effect of: "That's fascinating. It was nice meeting you. No, I don't want to hug you. Please be on your way." As in: Nigga. Please.

And you can tell they find this truly and legitimately shocking.