[RBerkley]

The ironic thing is that the Victorian era in England used to be sexually repressed at that time, that men were fleeing England to colonize other countries, which explains that former British law in countries like Jamaica outlaw anal sex even if it between man and woman. Some Caribbean countries even enforce British laws which criminalize vulgar language in public.

So it's bizarre that the Neo-Victorianism permits buggery (LGBTQ+ PEDOPHILE) & vulgar behaviour such as feministes walking naked on the streets or posing naked with little kids for feminist blogs.

Canada overall is one weird dump because in the United States, if someone poses nude in front of a kid, that person gets beaten up, man or woman.

Professor Peterson gotta stash his cash offshore and find an exit route from Toronto if SHTF with those LGBTQ, "breastfeeding" mothers who pose naked for their sons, trannies, faggots, dykes, shit eaters, women who shove dildos up their ass in front of kids, etc Social Justice groups who are calling for his blood for being "intolerant" to trannies who wanna flash their genitals to little kids in the transgender-friendly bathroom

[Tim in real life]

(10-10-2016 08:01 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  

The ironic thing is that the Victorian era in England used to be sexually repressed at that time, that men were fleeing England to colonize other countries, which explains that former British law in countries like Jamaica outlaw anal sex even if it between man and woman. Some Caribbean countries even enforce British laws which criminalize vulgar language in public.

So it's bizarre that the Neo-Victorianism permits buggery (LGBTQ+ PEDOPHILE) & vulgar behaviour such as feministes walking naked on the streets or posing naked with little kids for feminist blogs.

Canada overall is one weird dump because in the United States, if someone poses nude in front of a kid, that person gets beaten up, man or woman.

Professor Peterson gotta stash his cash offshore and find an exit route from Toronto if SHTF with those LGBTQ, "breastfeeding" mothers who pose naked for their sons, trannies, faggots, dykes, shit eaters, women who shove dildos up their ass in front of kids, etc Social Justice groups who are calling for his blood for being "intolerant" to trannies who wanna flash their genitals to little kids in the transgender-friendly bathroom

And yet, both renditions of Victorianism has gynocentrism written all over. Yes, British men were fleeing England, either due to false Jack the Ripper accusations, Victorian repression, or "new life" in the colonies.

Both renditions of Victorianism actually give Anglo women excessive sexual power, hence why the term "gay" has since been warped to "I finally get to indulge in sexual lust, regardless of the level of depravity" and includes homosexuality.

[RBerkley]

Tim, but in Jamaica, they only use "Victorian" laws to denounce neo-Victorian themes like homosexuality.

Jamaica is actually more sexually liberated than Cuba in a way. It is not that apparent because most of the action goes on in Dancehall clubs.

Speaking about men turning into fudge packers, it is highly strange that at the same time when there is absolutely zero tolerance on "sexual harassment of women" under the growing feminist movement, I'm noticing that Gay Pride parades on Toronto videos are becoming larger and larger.

It's like Victorian sexual repression DEFCOCK 1 turns straight men into gay, because I remember in Toronto, a white faggot groped me in the bus & when I told my Canadian friends, they warned me that I will be intolerant to even claim that the white faggot touched me. I was late teens at that time, legal, but I look younger than my age, & that white faggot groped me, but if I were to smile at a chick, I would get my face plastered all over the "Conservative" Toronto Sun accusing me of being Roosh V.

[Laner]

(10-10-2016 01:22 AM)RBerkley Wrote:  

Speaking about Chinese chicks, when I was around, when the academic year would start, a few 17.5-18 year old 1st year Chinese chicks would blush at me, but when I would try to talk to them, I would get this crowd of white women who were looking at me like a hawk. Language barrier was a bit problematic too, because some of these Chinese chicks are learning English for the first time, and hearing Creole language will confuse them of course.

The thing I dislike about UofT, Ryerson, Seneca, etc is that there is some type of virus going on when these fresh off the airplane female foreign students becoming into paranoid man-haters after the first month of attending university/college in Toronto.

2014 was when I started to discover that even creating casual talk with a chick on campus property felt like I was a criminal just for trying to be social. Remember this one time when a chick couldn't stop staring at me because I talked about Vybz Kartel and joked about how the Middle East stones lesbians to some friends in class, but when we had another class, I only found the back row seating where she was around. She packed up her bags and walked away fro the classroom as if she was losing blood and needed to go to a hospital.

For another class, we had a group presentation & group members exchanged txt #. When the presentation was over, I texted group members about our estimated grade, but this one chick sent one text back indicating to leave her alone. Weird.

I wrote about this on the forum many years ago, so I don't know if its still the case, although I am 100% sure it is.

A know some women who work in management roles at international schools, as well as having been with plenty of girls that attend these schools. The management does fear monger. They are right to do so, to some degree - there have been rapes and murders of foreign girls in the past - but the female (and beta male) teachers do take it to another level.

After talking to the students about safety, they tell them stories about dangerous situations from the past. They paint Vancouver into a slightly unsafe place, but one that would become potentially worse if they do certain things to bring that upon themselves.

Of course one of these is to talk with strange men. Any strange man. One girl told me that the Japanese liaison had told the female students that any men talking with them here are probably creepy and only looking to "hook up". They suggested that the students stick together and socialize in packs when they went out at night.

Many of these teachers need this in order to keep their students under the influence of their power. Often they are the ones that have a fear of their attractive students getting friends from outside the school as then the game would be up. The locals such as myself would be able to see that some of these teachers are in sexual purgatory and are largely considered losers by their local peers. Having power in the classroom over these international students is understandably very important for them to hold on to, so they resort to typical SJW and cockblocking tactics in order to stop us from having fun with foreign students.

[Mekorig]

@Laner: That last paragraph sounds awfully like the workings of a cult. One of the first things they do is to separate the newcomers from any outside influence.

[lake]

(10-09-2016 10:05 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 03:46 AM)Kaligula Wrote:  

Maybe Top Kek but a good idea...?

This seems like a good idea, but is it so in fact? Is it an actionable PUA advice ? Chinese diaspora communities thrive as 'guests' in other communities; I cannot recall one example of Chinese diaspora somewhere protesting against some hallmark of the host culture like a language. I do not see much hope for them becoming vocal in the public in this case too.
They will see it as an internal issue of English Canada.

On the side note, let's do not get excited too much by Kek. Surely such a misty god is a very capricious beast...?

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As I said above, the problem with the Chinese diaspora in Toronto is they are out-matched and too shy. So, while it is a good idea, it likely will not be acted upon. Just like Dr. Peterson going full shitlord is a good idea, but I ain't gonna hold my breath waiting for him to do so. But the Chinese aren't the only foreign diaspora in Toronto that struggle with English. I could see the Latino community having enough Spanish heat in their blood to go full La Raza and act out this plan. The Chinese could quietly pay for their picket signs, bus charters, and legal fees... Soros style.

Kek is a wrathful demon, much like Loki. He would be amused.

I think you may be wrong about the Chinese. At the Jordan Peterson rally today at the UofT which was again heavily disrupted by the LGBT, the majority who spoke up and took the stand against the disruption were the Chinese - mostly from Hong Kong. The main organizer of the event who aided Peterson was also Chinese. In 20 -30 years from now, the make up of TO is going to change again -- and mostly Asians will be taking over and the LGBT will be quietly fading away. Of course with the Chinese taking over, a whole new set of problems will begin anew -- with the Chinese being the Oppressors - and they have good experience at that.

[Ghost Tiger]

(10-11-2016 06:38 PM)lake Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 10:05 AM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  

(10-09-2016 03:46 AM)Kaligula Wrote:  

Maybe Top Kek but a good idea...?

This seems like a good idea, but is it so in fact? Is it an actionable PUA advice ? Chinese diaspora communities thrive as 'guests' in other communities; I cannot recall one example of Chinese diaspora somewhere protesting against some hallmark of the host culture like a language. I do not see much hope for them becoming vocal in the public in this case too.
They will see it as an internal issue of English Canada.

On the side note, let's do not get excited too much by Kek. Surely such a misty god is a very capricious beast...?

thread-58379.html

As I said above, the problem with the Chinese diaspora in Toronto is they are out-matched and too shy. So, while it is a good idea, it likely will not be acted upon. Just like Dr. Peterson going full shitlord is a good idea, but I ain't gonna hold my breath waiting for him to do so. But the Chinese aren't the only foreign diaspora in Toronto that struggle with English. I could see the Latino community having enough Spanish heat in their blood to go full La Raza and act out this plan. The Chinese could quietly pay for their picket signs, bus charters, and legal fees... Soros style.

Kek is a wrathful demon, much like Loki. He would be amused.

I think you may be wrong about the Chinese. At the Jordan Peterson rally today at the UofT which was again heavily disrupted by the LGBT, the majority who spoke up and took the stand against the disruption were the Chinese - mostly from Hong Kong. The main organizer of the event who aided Peterson was also Chinese. In 20 -30 years from now, the make up of TO is going to change again -- and mostly Asians will be taking over and the LGBT will be quietly fading away. Of course with the Chinese taking over, a whole new set of problems will begin anew -- with the Chinese being the Oppressors - and they have good experience at that.

I like the Chinese in Toronto. I have always got along with them well because of my own right-wing values. The Chinese will not seek to oppress any non-Chinese people. What they do is isolate themselves in Chinatown districts and push all the non-Chinese out.

However if you're seeing some younger Chinese displaying backbone at protests, that's interesting and it may be a "Bruce Lee" type phenomenon. But these bold younger Hong Kong types tend to embrace western values such as capitalism, freedom and privacy. They're not communists. This sounds like a good thing.

[Saladin]

(10-11-2016 10:11 AM)Laner Wrote:  

I wrote about this on the forum many years ago, so I don't know if its still the case, although I am 100% sure it is.

A know some women who work in management roles at international schools, as well as having been with plenty of girls that attend these schools. The management does fear monger. They are right to do so, to some degree - there have been rapes and murders of foreign girls in the past - but the female (and beta male) teachers do take it to another level.

After talking to the students about safety, they tell them stories about dangerous situations from the past. They paint Vancouver into a slightly unsafe place, but one that would become potentially worse if they do certain things to bring that upon themselves.

Of course one of these is to talk with strange men. Any strange man. One girl told me that the Japanese liaison had told the female students that any men talking with them here are probably creepy and only looking to "hook up". They suggested that the students stick together and socialize in packs when they went out at night.

Many of these teachers need this in order to keep their students under the influence of their power. Often they are the ones that have a fear of their attractive students getting friends from outside the school as then the game would be up. The locals such as myself would be able to see that some of these teachers are in sexual purgatory and are largely considered losers by their local peers. Having power in the classroom over these international students is understandably very important for them to hold on to, so they resort to typical SJW and cockblocking tactics in order to stop us from having fun with foreign students.

Guys who are interested in FOB Asian chicks in Toronto do well... these girls are probably going to even more tempted to hook up with a white guy after hearing some ugly white chick warn them against that.

My buddy banged a ton of FOB Asian girls in Toronto who were students. When I do talk to a FOB Asian chick they are way friendlier (I'm not very interested in them unless they are really hot because I don't have the patience for that kind of game in any case).

Heck even some brown FOB PUA dude was banging some Japanese hotty...

For fuck's sake, what's the competition? The FOB male students are meek and shy. If you're into Asian girls you can do quite well in Toronto with the FOB chicks. I do decently well with the Spanish language students... the problem is that the hot ones often get into relationships or fuck with other Latin American guys since those guys move fast. But most of the Asian chicks that move to Toronto? I really doubt they hate guys as RBerkley says. If you are a decent looking dude with game you're immediately outcompeting every single guy in their social circle.

Also, the Free Speech rally had a huge turnout with people who were supporting Peterson... there's a lot of people in TO who are fighting back. As Peterson said, the situation at Universities in the states is much worse than at U of T in terms of what professors can or cannot say. Hopefully the fight back will prevent things from getting worse.

There's this myth that U of T is some kind of politically correct hellhole. Its a studious campus, and the girls aren't that hot, but there are plenty of approachable girls and I've never had any issues approaching as long as its done in an intelligent and calibrated manner.

[lake]

There are two guys who give boot camps in TO on how to pick up TO women - called Honest signals.. One of the guys who teaches sprained his ankle and was in a wheel year. He started to pick up TO women in a wheel chair and showed how he did it in it on you tube. Mostly from the UofT area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wFn38D4Xuo

[Andy_B]

There were a bunch of protests and teach-ins pertaining to this guy's video. The first one was last week. Lauren Southern got up on stage and pretended to be trans, but to make a serious point. The second one happened yesterday and was a shitshow where a bunch of pro-free speech demonstrators tried to talk but got drowned out by counter-protestor SJWs who used their own sound system to drown out the protest with noise.

[ElFlaco]

(10-12-2016 05:38 AM)Andy_B Wrote:  

The second one happened yesterday and was a shitshow where a bunch of pro-free speech demonstrators tried to talk but got drowned out by counter-protestor SJWs who used their own sound system to drown out the protest with noise.

Step aside, TrigglyPuff, meet SmugglyPuff. Here's Lauren's follow-up video to the protest. Note the SJW protestor (being dubbed "SmugglyPuff") who makes her entrance around the 30-second mark and proudly lies to the police in support of her pet cause. Remember, it's never wrong if you're doing it for the right reason.

[debeguiled]

Paging Ghost Tiger.

Longer version of the above video

Here is Jordan Peterson getting mad, well, for at least 45 seconds, until he is shouted down by SJWs.

I am surprised at the push back against silencing speakers. Lot of students Southern talk to think it is stupid.

I like at 2:02 where the smug SJW says "white noise for white noise" as a justification for shouting down Peterson, and Lauren Southern says, "But they're actually saying things, you're literally white noise."

Her thinking-on-her-feet game is well on its way.


Some good student trolls at 3:33.

At 4:02 some woman sprinkles glitter on Lauren Southern for some reason, and gets mad when she doesn't get mad.

4:21 Righteous anger from a cute Serbian chick who comes from a country that actually experienced something bad and can't believe she thought Canada would be more democratic. She also has some choice words for the concept of privilege.

5:22 Tranny in black lunges for Lauren Southern, who reports it to police, and then a smug little dyke, who was there for it,



spends time from 5:45-6:00 alternately pretending nothing happened, and smirking at the camera when she thinks the police aren't looking. They are calling her the next Trigglysation as El Flaco has mentioned.

6:00-6:58 Awesome interview with Jordan Peterson. Concise. Passionate. Angry. Humble. Serious.

Hopefully it makes Ghost Tiger happy.

[Ghost Tiger]

Peterson done good there debeguiled. I'll give him props for going out there into the mob and defying the intimidation tactics. I can see that his attitude is evolving but he has yet to achieve the Gorilla Mindset. Obi-Wan has taught him well but he is not a Harambe yet. He is not on offense yet taking rhetorical head-shots at these circus freaks. But watching him there I do have new hope that he is on his way. Someone should send him a copy of Cerno's book and hasten the transformation.

[debeguiled]

I listened to the interview between Gad Saad and Peterson, and I think the real problem is that he is an academic through and through. He will have main point, and his main point is buoyed by two sub points that each have subpoints of their own, and most people want a sound bite, and he is just too intellectual to see that seriously talking about anything just loses too many people.

I think his best point concerning SJWs is very simple, direct, and compelling:

This is how fascism starts.

He has written about it before in his book "Maps of Meaning," as he alluded to on the Saad podcast.

If he would only hammer away at this point over and over, backing it up with evidence that he found long before he ever wrangled with the SJWs, he would have rhetorical gold, memeworthy gold.

I mean really.

Just look at the faces in the video I posted when he is talking.

These are irrational and irrelevant haters and morons.

Again.

Post a video or quote an SJW, and plainly state:

THIS IS HOW FASCISM STARTS.

He could back it up with research he has been doing over the years.

[Ghost Tiger]

^ Very good points debeguiled. Peterson needs your advice. He is "down in the weeds" as they say.

Like Vox Day says... shut up and meme.

[RBerkley]

Look at that bloodclat tranny pussyfish kicking Lauren Southern, and that white lesbian dyke denying that she even saw the assault.

If that group of SJWs tried that shit anywhere in Latin America and Caribbean, Buju Banton would come out of his prison cell under God's will to start up another Day of Judgement Sodom and Gommorah style pon that tranny crowd.

The only reason that those feminazi-tranny-lesbian SJW crowd can bully people in Toronto is that a mere word or insult is considered "hate crime" under Canadian criminal code, enforced by armed police in Toronto who "enforce" certain laws more harshly than other laws.

In a city like Toronto, a person who burns down a mosque or Synangogue will be treated less harshly by the Toronto Police than someone who "offends" an SJW while being assaulted by the same SJW.

What's up with Black Lives Matter chicks supporting white trannies, carpet munchers and battybwoys??? I thought they hated the Pride crowd in Toronto which caused them to shut down Pride for about an hour until their demands were met.

University of Toronto looks like a messed up place though. However, I'm glad that the foreign student chicks are not falling for what the Toronto women preach to spread SJW crap like before.

Those Toronto women would want that Serbian chick to become an SJW because they hate femininity and they want more useful idiots to become trannies like that fucker who kicked Lauren Southern.

Now ya see why in certain Caribbean countries and African countries they burn up lesbians and trannies like an old tyre wheel?

I don't condone "homophobia", but how come gays in Europe don't usually do this SJW shit as compared to Canada?

Versace is a faggot and he makes good clothes. Many European luxury clothing lines are owned & managed by faggots, but they don't go around spreading Cultural Marxism like in Canada.

How many faggots in Toronto actually contribute to culture and innovation in society rather than kick Lauren Southern?

Milo Yannoupoulis is a "dangerous faggot tour", and he is anti-feminist.

But faggots in Toronto wanna march up and down spreading their degenerate values to everyone.

[Tim in real life]

@RBerkley

Non-Anglosphere gays tend to have the common courtesy of "my jizz, my biz."

Addendum: that also applies to anyone that's outside of the Anglosphere.

[RBerkley]

Tim,

Toronto, and 50% of Canada in general is some form of zombie-SJW cult. This lesbian teacher from Toronto went into a classroom to shove a dildo up her ass for this picture



But any man who wanna get laid the natural way in Toronto, is met with all form of anti-male hysteria, but lesbian teachers shoving dildos up their asses inside a classroom of students appears to be A-OK in Toronto.

[Leonard D Neubache]

[debeguiled]

After the protest, Peterson tries to reason with SJWs.

Gets a headache.

You can see it in his face.

He is watching rational discourse die in front of him.

[Ghost Tiger]

(10-15-2016 04:23 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

After the protest, Peterson tries to reason with SJWs.

Gets a headache.

You can see it in his face.

He is watching rational discourse die in front of him.

At 4:46: "I don't really think I am a rhetoritician."

Until he decides to become one, he is going to have ZERO impact on these circus freaks. They know the game they are playing is about persuasion. Peterson is still acting like he is defending his PhD thesis to a room full of academics. He needs to figure out that he ain't in Kansas any more.

[debeguiled]

He never will. It is against his values.

I listened to a couple of his lectures on depth psychology. He believes that treating debate as a purely rhetorical exercise focused on winning is evil. That is where he thinks fascism comes from. He speaks openly how people who do that are people who don't know themselves and have wholly identified with their social personas, as in, on the side of the angels, which allows them to engage in all sorts of evil, while at the same time believing that other people are the evil ones.

His only hope would be to set up a debate with stringent rules that forced the SJWs to behave themselves.

Sadly, I don't think that would work either.

The only bright spot in all this, as he said on his interview with Gad Saad, is that he doesn't view the whole thing as a debacle. He said that most of the responses he has gotten in person and online have been positive, and he feels that he is speaking what is on the minds of many.

It just doesn't seem that way because the ones who make the most noise online are the freaks.

[Phoenix]

(10-15-2016 04:23 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

He is watching rational discourse die in front of him.

They never had the capacity to have rational discourse. A deranged savage only understands one thing: dominance and submission. Back in the old days these literal raving lunatics got unapologetically kicked the shit out of until they'd been safely pushed to the gutters of the outskirts of society. Only thing a lunatic understands is force -- for he certainly will not restrain himself. Back in the old days nobody had the time nor the naievity to try and reason with these things.

[debeguiled]

[Ghost Tiger]

(10-16-2016 11:22 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

He believes that treating debate as a purely rhetorical exercise focused on winning is evil. That is where he thinks fascism comes from. He speaks openly how people who do that are people who don't know themselves and have wholly identified with their social personas, as in, on the side of the angels, which allows them to engage in all sorts of evil, while at the same time believing that other people are the evil ones.

Very interesting analysis debeguiled. Thank you for that. I have not listened to his lectures, nor will I. His manner of speaking annoys the hell out of me. So your analysis is valuable to me since I trust your judgment.

The point you made in bold above is striking to me. This is a typical Canadian attitude. Your average Canadian is a socialist and I dare say that Professor Peterson is one himself. What I am getting at is that Canadian socialists hate salesmen. This is why they hate Donald Trump on a visceral level. Salesmen use rhetoric to "win", i.e. to close the sale. Peterson doesn't want to have to "sell" his arguments because he "knows" they are "true". He wants to keep muttering his little quiet dialectic arguments and wait around for people to simply calm down and listen to his truth. Hey... that's his prerogative. But it's a shame because there are a lot of people listening to him right now and looking to him for leadership.

His mission, should he choose to accept it, is to lead them. He will not accomplish said mission with dialectic. So if he thinks rhetoric is evil, well, that's certainly an understandable point of view. But look, violence is also evil. But sometimes you have to do a little evil in the pursuit of good. If the Allied Powers had decided in 1939 that violence was evil, Britain would have kept Neville Chamberlain as Prime Minister and they might be all speaking German right now. If George Washington and his mates had eschewed violence, America would never have happened.

Knowing when to use rhetoric responsibly is a lot like knowing when to use violence responsibly. It's an integral part of being a man. Hell, the vast amount of knowledge on this very forum regarding gaming women into the sack is all about rhetoric. It's all about salesmanship. And sure, it can be considered evil in a certain context and it can certainly be used for evil purposes. But rhetoric doesn't rape women just like guns don't kill people. If rhetoric causes fascism, do forks make Michael Moore fat? Ban forks! Ban rhetoric!

Of course that's ridiculous. And so is Peterson's notion towards rhetoric. He is being a spergy autist on this matter. He is being childish.

My hope is that he will recognize this flaw in himself and man up. Sure there will be risks. But you know what will happen if he doesn't?

Nothing.

Braveheart Wrote:

William Wallace: You know what happens if we don't take that chance?
Hamish: What?
William Wallace: Nothing.