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Whey Protein Denaturing
09-29-2016, 10:59 AM
Does anyone want to talk about protein? instead of that (obvious) joke
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09-29-2016, 11:05 AM
Maybe some guys don't want to take the time to cook an egg, dirty up a pan and utensils. They'd rather just chug a raw egg.
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09-29-2016, 11:38 AM
Even if it does denature a bit its not going to matter assuming you're getting sufficient protein for the day. Its the same as guys worrying about so and so food not having a "complete" amino acid profile. It doesn't matter.
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09-29-2016, 11:43 AM
Sometimes i'll drink the eggs because it takes me 30 seconds to drink 8 eggs, while if I make an omelette preparing+eating+cleaning takes no less than 15-20 minutes, and some times I don't have that time, there is no macro nutrient benefits on having them raw. Micro nutrient wise, I can't talk about it.
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09-29-2016, 12:06 PM
Quote: (09-29-2016 10:44 AM)FeeltheBern Wrote:
Hey Guys,
So I started drinking whey shakes after my workouts a month ago. One day I decided to make a hot chocolate with my chocolate flavoured powder. It got me thinking whether pouring boiling water on the powder would 'denature' the proteins in such a way that it would alter the benefits of consuming it.
So, a quick google tells me that, no, the protein in Whey, and all proteins for that matter, does not lose its benefit when heated to the point of denaturing:
http://proteinpow.com/denaturing
This got me wondering why people like to chug raw egg whites - apart from tasting like cum, why do it? What's wrong with making an omelette?!
And you compare these tastes with what experience? If you said "taste like shit" no one thinks you actually ate shit, but when you say tastes like cum?
As a newbie you are really setting yourself up.
I got a question: Do you like BBQ?
If so, let me put my meat on your grill.
Just saying "protein shakes" sounds gay, to me a protein shake is a gal swallowing my load.
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09-29-2016, 12:18 PM
Alpha males eat meat. Why be an apex predator on top of the food chain to drink gruel that tases like chalk? Protein shakes like nearly all supplements are a waste of money. Spend your money on real food. Your gains will thank you as will your taste buds, Bud.
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09-29-2016, 01:09 PM
Quote: (09-29-2016 12:22 PM)FeeltheBern Wrote:
Quote: (09-29-2016 12:18 PM)AboveAverageJoe Wrote:
Alpha males eat meat. Why be an apex predator on top of the food chain to drink gruel that tases like chalk? Protein shakes like nearly all supplements are a waste of money. Spend your money on real food. Your gains will thank you as will your taste buds, Bud.
I agree with you to some extent. I'm quite skeptical of supplementation in general.
I do, however, use protein shakes after lifting because it is an easily digested quick source of protein which your body needs after exertion. I also think they're good because I sometimes don't want to eat HUGE amounts of meat (its expensive and takes time to prepare). A shake is easier and fills me up a little at night.
But yes, I do agree in general that my food is far more important than my supplementation of it. There are quite a few studies out there, btw, that demonstrate the effectiveness of whey protein post work out to speed up recovery tims.
Paid for by you-guessed it- the billion dollar industry it feeds.
You ever wonder why they only use fitness models who are on a steady diet of steroid cocktails and HGH injections?
Because it doesn't work any better than food, in fact common sense would tell you to build muscle you need to eat muscle. Whey is far from the ultimate protein-eggs are better than whey, that is the reason for raw eggs being a cheap and available source of proteins long before whey shakes were a huge industry.
The only real reason to drink protein post workout is to prolong the anabolic phase and to postpone the catabolic phase. Your body can only be in one or the other.
The easiest way to avoid this is a high carbohydrate post workout meal, preferrably with protein. The insulin spike/cortisol response is something you want post workout.
The difference between eating and drinking the necessary nutrients post workout has a neglible effect/difference. Just do what you prefer.
Remember this: abs are made in the kitchen, gains are made in the gym.
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09-29-2016, 02:01 PM
I agree with AboveAverageJoe here, don't bother with protein shakes. Eat real meat. I'm not going to name drop here but when I lived in LA, I was friends with a B-list actor that had to bulk up, then cut down to 8% body fat for a role, he worked with one of the most well known and respected celebrity trainers in the business. All his food was made for him and it was just good clean food; lots of chicken, steak, fish, 6 whole eggs a day, lots of healthy fats like avocado and coconut oil, and at least a pound of vegetables a day. He didn't even take a multivitamin, he got everything from food.
The protein shakes are just bullshit, they are expensive, nasty and not nearly as effective as just eating real food.
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09-29-2016, 06:29 PM
Sure protien shakes are unnecessary if youe diet already has enough protien, otherwise they are an easy way to quickly consume extra calories and meet your macros. Thats it. You can be fine with or without.
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09-29-2016, 06:35 PM
I'm a fan of protein shakes, but I've done my homework on protein spiking (go with MyProtein).
Meat is cool and all, but it's easier to mix up and chug a protein shake (especially in the morning) than it is to sit down and eat ten ounces of chicken or a dozen eggs.
I always chuckle at fans of Shakeology, they have no idea what they're getting.
3 eggs is fuck all for protein or calories. You're looking at 210 calories and maybe 21 grams of protein, tops. I get that much protein in one single scoop of whey.
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10-10-2016, 01:27 PM
I think this thread is not going in the direction OP hoped...