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09-21-2016, 06:06 PM
You know the whole single, independent career-woman riding the carousel (usually in a city)
What was the first movie or tv show to glorify that lifestyle? Sex and the City gets a lot of blame on here but it had to have been way before that.
It's funny because I was watching this show on MTV about these stoner chicks and they were both casually bragging about how many guys they bang in a week in an attempt to one-up eachother. No shame, no modesty whatsoever. It got me thinking when did this become a "cool" thing for women to do (at least in the media)?
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09-21-2016, 06:08 PM
I bet johnbozzz has the answer.
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09-21-2016, 06:33 PM
Things started around the drug filled disco days.
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09-21-2016, 06:39 PM
WIA is right with Mary Tyler Moore.
The show came on in 1970, as part of the rural purge. A whole bunch of rural oriented shows were dropped that year, and new shows targeted at a sophisticated city audience were introduced. It was considered a breakthrough show with the first never married, independent career woman as a main character. "That Girl" was another show with a non-married female character living in the city, but she had a boyfriend/fiancé.
With a non-married career girl, unless she has a steady boyfriend that she ends up marrying, or she is explicitly written as a virgin, then by definition she's a slut. She has sex for pleasure, with the explicit intent that the sex is not part of a relationship leading to marriage and children. This is especially true with MTM's character being in her late 20's at the start of the show, going into her mid to late 30's by the end of the show.
I remember one episode where she was figuring how many dates she'd been on. She was 36, and figured 2 dates per week since she was 18, so that was 2000 dates! They never made it really clear in the show, but she was obviously fucking a lot of these guys. Total slut!
Edit: I just realized that the Lucy Show featured Lucille Ball as a widow, living with Vivian Vance, who played a divorcee. These shows feature Lucy dating a lot of guys, and never getting married, so now I think Lucy was really the first TV slut! Of course, this was a more innocent time, and you could imaging she wasn't fucking all the guys she dated, whereas MTM clearly was getting banged out.
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09-21-2016, 07:37 PM
Quote: (09-21-2016 06:39 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:
WIA is right with Mary Tyler Moore.
The show came on in 1970, as part of the rural purge. A whole bunch of rural oriented shows were dropped that year, and new shows targeted at a sophisticated city audience were introduced. It was considered a breakthrough show with the first never married, independent career woman as a main character. "That Girl" was another show with a non-married female character living in the city, but she had a boyfriend/fiancé.
Indeed. Ben Shapiro explored the whole evolution of the genre quite thoroughly in his book
Primetime Propaganda.
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09-21-2016, 09:04 PM
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09-21-2016, 09:41 PM
Laverne and Shirley. One was a slut. They were independent strong women.
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09-21-2016, 09:44 PM
Quote: (09-21-2016 06:10 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:
Mary Tyler Moore
That's exactly what I was thinking. I assumed everyone would say SATC but, 30 years before that, MTM glorified the *fun* life of a frivorced you-go-grrrl career woman who started a new life in....Minneapolis?? LOL. Not LA, Miami, NYC, or someplace fun. After this chick eat-pray-love-frivorced, she moved to frigid Minnesota for fun. Well, maybe she wanted to data a Somali!
Concurrent with MTM, a series of shows featured the happy carousel-riding divorcee (who always kept the kids, BTW). Rhoda, One Day at a Time, MTM, Alice. Many others that I can't recall, I'm sure! I was just a boy at the time. But even then, I recognized a sort of sick sadness to these shows, an acrid smell that hung over them. I didn't know what it was at the time. I do now: It was the rancid byproduct, the residue left over when matriarchy is allowed to disrupt the natural order of relationships.
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09-21-2016, 10:31 PM
Rhoda and Maude. Maude was one of the first pill-popping, alcoholic, abortion-having, leftist liberal characters in the history of TV - and she was portrayed in a positive light, almost as the "new normal". And she was supposedly based on Norman Lear's real life wife. 90% of Lear's work is wildly liberal.
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09-21-2016, 11:18 PM
Hey guys,
I'm dating a girl that makes me watch Sex in the City and watch Amy Schumer standup. Is that beta?
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09-22-2016, 07:31 AM
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09-22-2016, 08:30 AM
Let's not forget there were books around way before the film industry as well.
120 Days of Sodom by Marquis de Sade was basically a treatise for sexual deviancy dating back to the 1700s; allegedly he is also the figure who helped popularize elective abortion in the West as well.
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09-22-2016, 08:36 AM
Star Trek character Uhura. She dressed like a slut and her name rhymes with whore.
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09-22-2016, 10:01 AM
Quote: (09-22-2016 08:36 AM)Chowder Head Wrote:
Star Trek character Uhura. She dressed like a slut and her name rhymes with whore.
Good call. In fact, nearly every woman in Star Trek is a slut. The message of the show was that all women are sluts in the future.
How many times did Jim, or Bones, or Scotty run into an old flame that is now with some researcher on one of the alien planets? These cases were all examples of carousel riding sluts who had followed the alpha fux / beta bux play book. It's amazing how many examples of this you can find, and it continues through all the other Star Trek movies and shows.
Remember Terry Garr's guest appearance? The other girl in the picture is the cat that Gary Seven carries. The cat turns into that chick. Here pussy, pussy, pussy!
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09-22-2016, 10:36 AM
Also the show "Soap" although it actually lampooned slut culture. The two big sluts in the show were the two single daughters of the main characters. In one series of episodes, they actually took turns banging the escaped convict who was hiding in their house. In another episode, one of the sisters goes into a detailed explanation to one of the male characters about what a slut she is, and it's not presented as a necessarily good thing.
That show was in the late 70s and early 80s, so I guess slutty TV characters had become normal enough to be satirized.
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09-22-2016, 12:40 PM
Quote: (09-21-2016 09:09 PM)XPQ22 Wrote:
Way before the 1970s. Google "pre-code" Hollywood films.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Code_sex_films
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Diggers_of_1933
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The concept of marriage was often tested. In The Prodigal (1931) a woman has an affair with a seedy character, and later falls in love with her brother-in-law. When her mother-in-law steps in at the end of the film it is to encourage her husband to grant her a divorce so she can marry the brother she is obviously in love with, proclaiming the message of the film: "This is the twentieth century. Go out into the world and get what happiness you can."
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Female protagonists in aggressively sexual vice films were usually of two general kinds: the bad girl or the fallen woman.[31] In so-called "bad girl" pictures, female characters profit from promiscuity and immoral behavior.[32] Jean Harlow, an actress who was by all reports a lighthearted, kind person off the screen, frequently played bad girl characters and dubbed them "sex vultures".[33] Two of the most prominent examples of bad girl films were Red-Headed Woman (1932) and Baby Face (1933). In Red-Headed Woman, Jean Harlow plays a secretary determined to sleep her way into a more luxurious lifestyle. She seduces her boss and intentionally breaks up his marriage. During her seductions, he tries to resist and slaps her, at which point she looks at him deliriously and replies "Do it again, I like it! Do it again!"
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09-22-2016, 03:29 PM
Okay, so, looking at the pre-code films as still having some sort of moral approbation attached to slutty characters, and sixties women as still too new a concept for the average girl to emulate, I would go with the Mary Tyler Moore Show (So far) as the first show that really paints the spunky career girl with the adult sex life as something that a girl in the suburbs could model her life on. It was on weekly, and it was just wholesome enough that you could convince yourself that your parents would approve.
And, if that is the case, Ed Asner's character was prescient about how men would ultimately view this phenomenon:
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