[Cogon]

(09-15-2016 05:44 PM)Drix Wrote:  

Congratulations @Cogon, You really know a lot of Latam.

Thanks I have spent a lot of time there. A lot of people only get 1 to 2 weeks vacations so I have gotten lots of time there considering the past 2 and a half have been in asia.

I am about to get a lot more there soon.

I have this interesting idea I have set up. The longest I have spent in latam at once was 2 and a half months. And I already noticed that I was getting so immersed in Spanish that I was getting used to speaking it only and would blurt out Spanish by accident when I got back to the states. I found that English got put at the "back of my brain" as I would temporarily forget how to say a few things, but back to normal once back to living in USA. If I stay in latam as long as I stayed in Asia/Philippines, like say 2 1/2 years or more, I will get so spanished out, my English will begin to leak away! The experience of being immersed in Spanish and isolated from English for an extremely long time is a thrill in itself.

[Cogon]

Panama is tiny and Mexico is big. Yet I find more girls online from Panama! Clearly they are more interested to meet an american. Costa Rica is looking good too.

[NerdyNomad]

(09-15-2016 11:44 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Girls wise isn't Miraflores in Peru similar to better places in Bogota?

Bogota has a bunch of 4s and 5s, Miraflores the same, but Bogota has many more 8+s.

Bogota seemed like a solid step down from Medellin.

[MegaCreep]

(09-15-2016 11:44 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

Girls wise isn't Miraflores in Peru similar to better places in Bogota?

It has nothing to do with better places in Bogota. The low class peruvian girls are very easy to pull but they are generally built like this - ugly faces, short legs, small tits, ugly ass. They are not really human looking. Most of them are not good in bed. The high class peruvian girls are generally better, there are some pretty ones, but they are very conservative sexually and pretty boring. Most of them have only been to Miami or maximum Europe 2-3 times so they are not too interesting to talk to neither because they do not know much about anything outside of their country. Sexually they are mainly a disaster.

[preppy]

Another thing, the male competition in Bogota is something to consider. In short terms, it's Juanes vs Grupo 5 in terms of appealing to women. The guys generally look cooler, more swag, better dressed, and the Colombian accent is typically smoother. That being said, there are guys in Lima like this as well, but we're talking about the average guy in both cities that you'd see in a nightclub. Better ratio in Bogota, and Colombia having significantly more attractive women in general makes them more approachable.

It's well known the upper-class women in Lima are conservative, this applies to the men too. It's like Peruvian guys make an effort to not seem "edgy", because the conservative culture has a problem with that. You rarely see sleeve tattoos for example, but in Bogota they are common along with skinny jeans.

Basically, Peruvian guys are masculine, but that doesn't always translate to having more appeal with women.

The food always gets discussed, Lima wins here.

[Kendrick]

Bogota in almost all aspects. I've stayed in both places for a month, both with local upper class families (my college roommate in Bogota and childhood friend in Lima). I'm also a native Spanish speaker.

Bogota is a nicer and more sophisticated city, the girls are much hotter and more european looking. Being French you'll do well there, you wont have a problem pulling and dating top quality girls being an engineer and european. If you can get into a social circle with the upper class in Bogota you'll have a great time. If you have more specific questions feel free to PM me.

edit: I never felt Bogota was dangerous, and I look like a tall, pale white guy. I also thought the food in Colombia just as good as Peru. Personally I greatly preferred Colombia as a country over Peru. Probably my 2nd favorite country in Latin America after Argentina and tied with Mexico.

[Palo_alto]

I travel for business to Colombia and Peru 5 or 6 times per year.

My 2 cents,

(09-14-2016 10:16 AM)Pter43 Wrote:  

Lima or Bogota : Women excluded

Let's not talk about women and make this choice like a "non-gamer".

Why Lima :

- Food is way better !

Lima is the culinary capital in Southern America. You will find the one of the best restaurants and food in the world. (Astrid & Gaston, La mar, Central, Maido,etc.... i can keep going forever)

Food in Bogota is just unhealthy and overall bad. All carbs, low quality meat, not cheap in high end places.

There is the sea

*Nice beaches near Lima are the same drive time as a Fly from Bogota to Cartagena or San Andres. + weather is Lima is not really nice (Humid and cloudy)

- No rain (but no sun...)
- Safer

Lima is more dangerous for petty crime.


- People talk better english (well to me that's not a problem since I talk spanish but...)
- Easier to find visa (in the case I quit my job and want to say... you never know !)

Yes, but Peruvian public service is way worst than Bogota.

Why Bogota :

- Cost of life is cheaper
- Better economic growth in Colombia

Not really. Colombian Peso is totally devaluated, OIL prices to the grown. Check out Lima's retail and mining Industry.

- It would be easier to travel abroad from there (USA/Europe) (not sure about this one)

Yes, You will have better connection from El Dorado than from Chavez airport.

- Medellin ! What I mean is... I thing I would prefer Colombia rather than Peru, ... but the problem is the choice is not only between Colombia & Peru, but Lima & Bogota, and Bogota is not the best city... a choice like Medellin versus Lima would be easier. At least by living in Bogota I can meet people from Colombia, and create the opportunity to stay in Colombia latter.



Lima or Bogota : Women

To simplify (and exagerate) this I would say :
Easy & ugly versus difficult & pretty ?

Well of course peruvian women are not that ugly, and one can find a lot of pretty peruvian... but let's be honest. Colombian are way more attractive.

Another thing that is being said is that... Peruvian are easier. It is easy to get a girl on the first night there, more difficult in Colombia.

To be honest, I don't know enough about Colombian and Peruvian girls to have an opinion here (And that's why I am asking you !).

Who are the more conservatives ?
Who are the best when it comes to sex ?
Who are the more interesting ?
Who are the less attracted to money ?







What do you think of it ?
Thanks guys (PS : I would let you know in one week what would be my choice)

I was offered o move to Bogota and after a couple of weeks living there (Parque de la 93 area) I could not take the 2 hour traffic every day to work. Traffic is just insane in Bogota. Lima is bad, but Bogota is like Mexico City. Unbearable.

For me the 3 pleasures of life are food, travel and pussy.

If you will have free time to travel around during weekend and your place will be close to work in a safe upscale area:

BOGOTA

If you will be working long hours, little time for travelling and your work place will be far from where you are living:

LIMA



PM if you need something[/b]

[Australia Sucks]

Walkability of the city: both are nothing special but Lima wins

Food/Fine Dining: Lima wins here.

Night Life: I am not a night life guy so I do not know. For day-game Bogota definitely has better culture/logistics/talent.

Cost of living: I do not know exactly but they both seemed to be similar when comparing a like for like lifestyle.

Traffic/transport: both are bad so you have to live close to work

Women: Bogota kills Lima here. The girls in Bogota are prettier, speak better English, are nicer and play less games. They are also easier and more into foreigners and they are better LTR material. Also less gold-digger girls than Lima.

Weather/climate: Bogota wins hands down (I am not a fan of the perpetually cloudy Lima weather).

General friendliness of the population: Bogota wins hands down.

So overall I would say Bogota wins by a comfortable margin.

[Razors Edge]

(05-31-2017 09:42 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Walkability of the city: both are nothing special but Lima wins

Food/Fine Dining: Lima wins here.

Night Life: I am not a night life guy so I do not know. For day-game Bogota definitely has better culture/logistics/talent.

Cost of living: I do not know exactly but they both seemed to be similar when comparing a like for like lifestyle.

Traffic/transport: both are bad so you have to live close to work

Women: Bogota kills Lima here. The girls in Bogota are prettier, speak better English, are nicer and play less games. They are also easier and more into foreigners and they are better LTR material. Also less gold-digger girls than Lima.

Weather/climate: Bogota wins hands down (I am not a fan of the perpetually cloudy Lima weather).

General friendliness of the population: Bogota wins hands down.

So overall I would say Bogota wins by a comfortable margin.

Bogota has shit weather and Colombian women love money.

[Sidney Crosby]

A lot of cities in Colombia have great weather, Bogota does not. It rains so often there and it is cold at night.

I know a lot of people move to a city and Latin America and expect good weather. Bring a decent jacket if you are going to Bogota.

[GlobalMan]

(06-01-2017 01:58 AM)Razors Edge Wrote:  

Bogota has shit weather and Colombian women love money.

For me, Bogota has some of the best weather of any large city in South America, I love it. Mild year round.

As far as "Colombian women love money" part, I don't get that either, did not experience that phenomenon to any greater degree than anywhere else in the world in my years living there. Sure, if you're only chasing the bitches in gringo bars, clubs, and semi-prepagos met on the internet, then yes there is a greater chance you'll be dealing with girls after your cash, that is no surprise. But if you're hanging around middle and upper class girls, especially in Bogota, there really is no issue.

[Australia Sucks]

Razors Edge the Bogota weather is not ideal and is shit compared to other cities in Colombia, but I much prefer it to Lima. Its depressing to live without sunshine (i.e. Lima for most of the year). If I had to choose between Lima weather and Bogota weather I would choose Bogota weather. As for Colombian women loving money I just did not see any evidence of that. But then again I did not do online game and I did not do night game either. I stuck to day game only and I did not meet any gold-diggers. In Lima I met way more girls who were stuck up and or gold-diggers.

[Tully Mars]

Bogota is a city you have to spend some time in to really grasp how it works....it's a no brainer for me, Bogota wins out....

I can say this year the rainy season has been the worst I have experienced in the past 5 years....it begins to fuck with you.....however I can't stand blazing heat anymore and prefer the mild weather....

What really affects me more than the rain is the elevation....but outside of those two perceived negatives Bogota has "layers" most random visitors will never see or notice....on top of that it's filled with women from all parts of the country....and there is always gonna be new arrivals as it's the capital.

Colin Post a trusted source who has lived long term in both cities nailed this debate on Lima vs Bogota.....

http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2017/02/...ia-expats/

[newgame]

(06-01-2017 07:26 AM)Tully Mars Wrote:  

http://www.expat-chronicles.com/2017/02/...ia-expats/

There's some incorrect info at that link (tourist visa is 90 days and extendable up to 180 days in Colombia, not 60 days). The rest of it is a bit opinionated, but mostly accurate.

[Vinny]

I really like both.

Bogota is a place where you roll in and you can start killing it with ladies straight away and daygame targets are abundant.

Lima is a place where to get quality bangs you need to grind for couple of weeks, but once you are there combine that with perfect weather during the right months and it is an amazing experience.

Both cities were very good to me, both have their perks. The choice comes to personal preference.

If you are planning a short trip and just want a lot of 5.5+ bangs choose Bogota.

If you are willing to stay a month or longer and get few hot regulars and enjoy amazing weather and ocean choose Lima.

[Australia Sucks]

Vinny, I thought Lima beaches were ugly and somewhat dirty, but maybe I've been spoiled coming form Sydney. Vinny maybe if you are coming form Eastern Europe the weather is good, but from where I come from Lima weather is a huge downgrade.

[Sidney Crosby]

^ 90% of the places in the world are a huge downgrade from Sydney.

[Cattle Rustler]

(06-01-2017 09:22 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

Vinny, I thought Lima beaches were ugly and somewhat dirty, but maybe I've been spoiled coming form Sydney. Vinny maybe if you are coming form Eastern Europe the weather is good, but from where I come from Lima weather is a huge downgrade.

For someone whose username is "Australia Sucks" you sure love to rave about it.

[scrambled]

(06-01-2017 09:22 PM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  

I thought Lima beaches were ugly and somewhat dirty, ... from where I come from Lima weather is a huge downgrade.

Constancy is a virtue of its own, and you possess it in the form of always being inaccurate. Lima area beaches are neither ugly nor dirty; even the crowded public ones at La Punta (Callao) or the surfer ones at Barranco are nice. They are more rocky than sandy though.

Lima's weather is close to ideal for most tourists, as it is never too hot or cold, almost never rains, and always an improvement on the Northern Hemisphere, being cool in our summer, and warm in our winter.

[underboss]

Simply being a "gringo" won't go as far in Bogota. It's similar to Buenos Aires in this regard.

There are hot women in Peru but mainly in the upper classes. They tend to be conservative, dress conservative, behave conservative, all that. You'll see some in the middle class as well, but there are far more in Colombia in all classes (including lower), plus the culture is more liberal & party oriented. If you're into fashion, keep in mind that will be seen as gay in all of Peru (maybe a few nightclubs in Lima being the exception), but accepted in Colombia, even in the Tier 2 cities.

Colombians are usually more interesting in conversation (if this matters to you). They generally have no filter. Peruvians tend to fear upsetting anyone from what I noticed. It's a very by-the-book culture, somewhat serious for a Latin American country. The culture seems to pride itself on being very humble, but this leads to boredom as well.

A good friend of mine is Peruvian-American and he would tell me being around Italian-Americans was completely different than what he was used to. Explained that in Peruvian culture you're only supposed to express something as either being "ok or good", but should never express dislike for anything. He said he wasn't allowed to dislike a TV show for example, as that would be seen as disrespectful to those who made the TV show. When I visited I understood what he meant.

[Titan]

Lima is currently undergoing a cultural boom, as far as I'm concerned. There's fun to be had if you like food, raving, latin dancing, history, nature, and a bunch of other stuff. It's still Peru, so women are sort of an afterthought, BUT there's certain demographics and nascent subcultures that tend to very disproportionately have/attract hot girls.

[Seth_Rose]

Relevant:

http://www.mylatinlife.com/blog/2017/6/4...you-travel