[Mercenary]

(07-31-2016 08:02 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Because of guys like this we made it to the moon.

I disagree.

The many ship captains who died looking for the northwest passage near canada between the atlantic and pacific oceans in the 16th/17th/18th/19th century risked their lives for a much greater cause.

The thousands of men who died trying to invent the modern airplane also are more worthy of our praise.

The explorers who went to locate the north and south poles endured much longer and tougher obstacles for months or years without caring about breaking some statistic in a book of records.

This guy just reminds me of that other dude who did the highest jump in the world just to prove he could, not because it would help humanity in some way. I mean seriosusly....no one is going to start jumping to earth from space or start free falling out if planes just because its proven you can survive.

Im all for men showing bravery and facing danger to make human progress, but this comes across as pure ego and too much money rather than an interest in mankind's progress. Even as a business idea, it seems very high risk for a slim possibility of some sort of financial return. I just cant get behind what this guy is doing. Since the space race has ended we live in a world of non stop entertainment, and this guy is just another showman trying to get our praise and respect by running daredevil clown game.

Im more impressed by the dudes who learn to survive in the wild without any technological or modern help, finding food, building shelter, surviving bad weather, medicating yourself if injured, not getting lost in the woods/jungle, making weapons, defeating predators, etc. They do that for months or years on end, not just for 1 day , and they dont give a shit about breaking records or being a viral news item on the internet. Those are real men. They are the ones who can really teach us something valuable about bravery, ingenuity, persistence, strength and being a man.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-31-2016 07:19 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  

I hope he made a shit ton of money from this.

Look closer - it's a Viral Marketing stunt. He risked his life for 'Heaven Sent' - an Insurance Company commercial.

If he failed, they could publicly-present a big check to widow and son and still get the brand name out there. Win-win.

He's lucky, in a way. He now know the exact monetary value his wife thinks his continued-existence for her and their son is worth.

More importantly, is that a wall-approaching Stacy Thompson from that Irish Bodybuilder video at 1:10? Note the body language.

[El Chinito loco]

I think it's pretty badass. It's nice to see someone bridge what is theoretically possible and what is actually possible with these types of stunts. He's risking his life for sure but then again every sporting event is supposed to mimic the glory of life and death struggle. He just chose to do it in his own way.

[PainPositive]

(08-01-2016 12:25 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 08:02 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  

Because of guys like this we made it to the moon.

I disagree.

The many ship captains who died looking for the northwest passage near canada between the atlantic and pacific oceans in the 16th/17th/18th/19th century risked their lives for a much greater cause.

The thousands of men who died trying to invent the modern airplane also are more worthy of our praise.

The explorers who went to locate the north and south poles endured much longer and tougher obstacles for months or years without caring about breaking some statistic in a book of records.

This guy just reminds me of that other dude who did the highest jump in the world just to prove he could, not because it would help humanity in some way. I mean seriosusly....no one is going to start jumping to earth from space or start free falling out if planes just because its proven you can survive.

Im all for men showing bravery and facing danger to make human progress, but this comes across as pure ego and too much money rather than an interest in mankind's progress. Even as a business idea, it seems very high risk for a slim possibility of some sort of financial return. I just cant get behind what this guy is doing. Since the space race has ended we live in a world of non stop entertainment, and this guy is just another showman trying to get our praise and respect by running daredevil clown game.

Im more impressed by the dudes who learn to survive in the wild without any technological or modern help, finding food, building shelter, surviving bad weather, medicating yourself if injured, not getting lost in the woods/jungle, making weapons, defeating predators, etc. They do that for months or years on end, not just for 1 day , and they dont give a shit about breaking records or being a viral news item on the internet. Those are real men. They are the ones who can really teach us something valuable about bravery, ingenuity, persistence, strength and being a man.

PainPositive Wrote:

Because of guys like this we made it to the moon. Pushing limits with this kind of balls is what gave us modern civilization. A world of women would never have taken the risks it too to shape the world we have today. It's what separates us and what makes us able to accomplish great things. Sure, skydiving does little for man's progress but it's this attitude that sets us apart.

Hats off to this guy.

(07-31-2016 11:48 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

I didn't see the video...

For a guy who didn't watch the video and is quoting snippets of other members comments out of context you have a lot to say about it. Maybe you should start there.

Also, if you finish reading what was said rather than commenting on only the first sentence you won't have to go into long explanations about things that were already explained.

Mercenary Wrote:

18000 jumps ??

Even if he did 1 jump a day every day of the year it would take him 49 years to do that many jumps.
You sure about that number ?

Again, if you watched the video...

Mercenary Wrote:

They are the ones who can really teach us something valuable about bravery, ingenuity, persistence, strength and being a man.

Yes, like this man. 18,000 jumps and the 1st man to ever to accomplish this feat takes "bravery, ingenuity, persistence, strength and being a man." You could learn something from this guy in all of the above.

[Lagavulin]

(07-31-2016 11:45 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:52 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Guys he's got 18000 jumps under his belt.

18000 jumps ??

Even if he did 1 jump a day every day of the year it would take him 49 years to do that many jumps.
You sure about that number ?

18,000 is doable. An experienced skydiver doing 10+ jumps in a day wouldn't be uncommon.

[Mercenary]

(08-01-2016 12:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

If he failed, they could publicly-present a big check to widow and son and still get the brand name out there. Win-win.

How is it a win if he dies and the wife gets a truckload of money she doesn't know how to manage, and this boy grows up without a father to raise him, cause his dad too busy showing the world how "hard" he was ?

[Omad]

(07-31-2016 11:45 PM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(07-31-2016 03:52 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  

Guys he's got 18000 jumps under his belt.

18000 jumps ??

Even if he did 1 jump a day every day of the year it would take him 49 years to do that many jumps.
You sure about that number ?

Totally doable, I've got 19,000 jumps. The skills required to hit the net aren't that remarkable, any skydiver with a few thousand jumps and some specific training could do it.

The balls required is a different story!

[Suits]

(08-01-2016 02:47 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 12:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

If he failed, they could publicly-present a big check to widow and son and still get the brand name out there. Win-win.

How is it a win if he dies and the wife gets a truckload of money she doesn't know how to manage, and this boy grows up without a father to raise him, cause his dad too busy showing the world how "hard" he was ?

Don't worry. Women don't think that far down the road.

[hydrogonian]

It looks to me that even literally a few feet further to the net-edge would have had the net dumping him off of its side rather than supporting him.

When he was testing the net with dummies, one ripped through it.

I'd wager that he couldn't do this twice more successfully. I'd also wager that he's going to try something else. He won't be able to stop.

[malakaix]

(08-01-2016 04:03 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

I'd wager that he couldn't do this twice more successfully. I'd also wager that he's going to try something else. He won't be able to stop.

That's usually the case.

Dwain Weston, Shane McConkey, Dean Potter, Dan Osman.. all of them continued to push the boundaries and it eventually caught up with them. I reckon Alex Honnold will be next. That dude is seriously on another level.

Then again.. Felix Baumgartner is still around.

[JacksonRev]

There is a reason most parachute deaths are jumpers with 1000's of jumps. They get cocky, take risks, and die.

I stopped jumping for this reason. It's a high that any retard can do. Or, as my first free fall instructor, an ex-SF guy said, "Jumping out of planes is the easiest sport in the world. Hell, they let women do it."

It takes very little skill or talent to jump out of a plane and do this. It's just stupid. It's basically the equivalent of this:

[Mercenary]

(08-01-2016 09:45 AM)JacksonRev Wrote:  

There is a reason most parachute deaths are jumpers with 1000's of jumps. They get cocky, take risks, and die.

Totally agree...it's pure hubris.

(08-01-2016 03:49 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 02:47 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  

(08-01-2016 12:38 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

If he failed, they could publicly-present a big check to widow and son and still get the brand name out there. Win-win.

How is it a win if he dies and the wife gets a truckload of money she doesn't know how to manage, and this boy grows up without a father to raise him, cause his dad too busy showing the world how "hard" he was ?

Don't worry. Women don't think that far down the road.

Sure, but at least the man should be thinking about the future of his family.
Most women have absolutely no clue how to manage money, let alone large insurance payouts.

If he has spent that much time doing that many jumps in the last few years and is putting his life at risk with a jump like that, he is at best a negligent father to his son, and at worst a husband who doesn't care about his wife being a widow and his kid a fatherless orphan.

There are much more important things to risk your life for if you have a family.

[debeguiled]

You guys are still missing the distinction Mercenary is making between the meaningful and the pointless.

You are acting like guys like this,





who are just a few steps above a travelling carnival, are on the same level as guys like this:




There is a place for daredevils on the margins of society, and there is a different place for people who risk their lives to push exploration and technology forward.

Completely different places.

It makes no sense to act like guys who shoot themselves out of cannons are heroes in the same way that Nasa test pilots are.

No, wait.

[C-Note]

I read he is a skydiving stunt consultant for the film industry and operates a skydiving business. So, it's appropriate for someone like that to do a stunt like this just to show it can be done. It's his profession, the skill that he has mastered. Aren't we men supposed to demonstrate our mastery of our chosen skill?

The article I read on the stunt in the Washington Post said that he hit "dead center" on the net. When I watched the video I noticed that he was nowhere close to the "center" of that net. Based on that, I would say that, just like wingsuit flying, if this becomes a common stunt with adrenalin-junkie skydivers, it's going to have a fairly high mortality rate.

[Captainstabbin]

Even if it was just a dickbrained stunt, I still appreciate the effort. Same way I appreciate Travis Pastrana's jumps - or Josh Sheehan's triple backflip. Hell, the entirely of extreme sports is based on dickbrained stunts...but I still respect the skill and raw nerve needed to do them.

Frankly, it took more skill to do that wingsuit jump into cardboard boxes.

[debeguiled]

Travis Pastrana screams in his sleep.

[Captainstabbin]

(08-01-2016 12:17 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Travis Pastrana screams in his sleep.

If you watch the whole movie about the triple backflip, he can barely take a landing in an airbag anymore without blacking out. He's been concussed so many times he'll have some serious issues in a few years.

[Cattle Rustler]

(07-31-2016 03:07 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  

I bet he's read Gorilla Mindset.

I bet Gorilla Mindset read him.

[Omad]

(08-01-2016 09:45 AM)JacksonRev Wrote:  

There is a reason most parachute deaths are jumpers with 1000's of jumps. They get cocky, take risks, and die.

I stopped jumping for this reason. It's a high that any retard can do. Or, as my first free fall instructor, an ex-SF guy said, "Jumping out of planes is the easiest sport in the world. Hell, they let women do it."

It takes very little skill or talent to jump out of a plane and do this. It's just stupid. It's basically the equivalent of this:

The cockiness is usually in male skydivers with 200 - 1000 jumps, their ego far out ways their skill. I've seen plenty told to take it easy only to be taken away in an ambulance shortly after. Looking at 2012 fatality stats for the US, 42% had over 1000 jumps. I only did a quick search, 2012 stats were the first I found. There's probably a lot of variations over different years. Long term cause of death stats are around 30% from landing, 20% collisions, 20% malfunction. http://parachutistonline.com/feature/les...be-learned

As you say, jumping out of a plane is easy and any retard can do it. It's comparable to surfing though, plenty do it but not many do it well at a high level.

[El Chinito loco]

(08-01-2016 12:01 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  

Frankly, it took more skill to do that wingsuit jump into cardboard boxes.

From what I read about this the guy was using a modified wingsuit that created enough drag for him to do this safely.

It's probably only a matter of time before there's a wingsuit invented that can do a landing without the aid of cushioning.

That will be a real game changer. Imagine someone being able to base jump from a mountain then land on a different spot and jump again.