[Chetthebaker]

Yeah, Rocketeer and Career Opportunties are the two Jennifer Connolly pre-breast reduction movies I can remember.
Then a few years later she started winning Oscars. I didn't give a shit about any of those movies.

[Skull_Leader]

(07-28-2016 05:02 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

I think the answer to question 1 is that Hollywood is completely out of ideas. They see a trend of making reboots of movies 20 to 30 years ago that young children today have never heard of. I didn't see the rocketeer 25 years go, but box office mojo says it made 45M in the USA with a 35M budget and zero information available about worldwide theater numbers and dvd infomation, but it probably wasn't that much. It had Jennifer Connely who would have been extremely hot back in 1991. If they had a really amazing idea on how to reboot the film to make it better, then I would get it. But they are like "let's make her a black female, that will generate huge numbers!"

I used to think that they were running out of ideas, but since I started reading fiction, I don't think that's the case. There are a lot of deep, unique stories out there in books that I think would make great movies, and while the "Book to movie" thing has been done a lot, I have to wonder why movie writers can come up with anything new as is done all the time in books?
I think the real problem is that they're afraid of taking chances with anything new. They can make money without taking any risk (or much risk) then why bother?

[Conscious Pirate]

Rippity Rappity Rape
Disney is looking to fake
Us out once again
With a black justice Fem.
Cause they can't be arsed to create.

[The Beast1]

I'm looking forward to a new trailer being disliked to oblivion.

Let's see if we can give this the same Ghostbusters treatment.

[Captainstabbin]

(07-28-2016 06:55 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Everything about that show was girlpower nonsense but she had a fappening appearance that included a facial.

It's interesting how Supergirl was FAR more concerned with having people idolize her than just doing good deeds. Helping people was incidental, what mattered was the adulation of the crowds.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-28-2016 11:05 PM)HOD Wrote:  

I was crushing on her big time back during 'Phenomena' in 1985 (terrible Italian horror movie). Not creepy. I was 14: she's a year older than me. She couldn't act worth a shit, but who cared?

See also, Daphne Zuniga playing a buttoned up preppie in 'The Sure Thing' the same year.



I obviously had a type. I dated a girl around '87-'88 in High School with the long hair and natural 40 DD's, despite having the face of a 6, which annoyed my older sister enough to make it her mission give her hair and makeup tips, which helped a lot. At the time, it seemed close enough if I squinted, and, goddamn, those tits were legendary, and she was probably squinting and thinking about the Beefcake actors she liked anyway. Teenage sex...



I'm still in contact with her. She's always telling me stories about men's insane reactions to her breasts, even at her age. I hate to imagine what happens when the bra comes off.

[Tex Cruise]

(07-29-2016 04:01 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I was crushing on her big time back during 'Phenomena' in 1985 (terrible Italian horror movie). Not creepy. I was 14: she's a year older than me. She couldn't act worth a shit, but who cared?

Reading this reminded me of a crappy 1980s horror film called "Creepers" I watched more than once in my teens simply because of her being in it, turns out it's the same movie, retitled.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-29-2016 04:33 AM)Tex Cruise Wrote:  

Reading this reminded me of a crappy 1980s horror film called "Creepers" I watched more than once in my teens simply because of her being in it, turns out it's the same movie, retitled.

That's the one. It's a cut down version of the longer Italian original. Sorry, I think of it under its European Title because I collected Horror Movie soundtracks in my teens, and it looked like this:



I was going through some old stored boxes of LP's earlier this year and there it was, along with things like 'Creepshow' and 'Near Dark'.

Goddamn, Connelly was hot, and such a terrible actress in both 'Creepers' and 'Labyrinth'. I mean, I heard she won an Oscar, but it's hard to believe when she was outacted by a bunch of Muppets and David Bowie's wig.

[Quintus Curtius]

I saw the original when it first came out on a run-down, cinder-block and cement theater in Okinawa in 1991. The place smelled like piss. The movie was terrible, even by the standards of the early 1990s. Then again, it had Jennifer Connelly, so that counts for something.

I just can't understand why they would want to do a remake of this movie for ANY reason. It bombed the first time around.

Hollywood's filled with nepotism and family-cronyism, so I'm guessing this idea must have come from some rich mogul's kid.

[Menace]

Jennifer Connelly was also in a great under-rated sci fi movie called Dark City.

[debeguiled]

(07-28-2016 06:55 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

(07-28-2016 06:25 PM)username Wrote:  

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an unlikely new hero emerges: a young African–American female pilot, who takes up the mantle of Rocketeer in an attempt to stop an ambitious and corrupt rocket scientist from stealing jet-pack technology in what could prove to be a turning point in the Cold War.

Let me guess.... hum.... another evil white man? Guaranteed!

Obviously these idiots didn't learn anything from the Ghostbuster disaster that is set to lose millions of dollars. Or the failed Supergirl TV show that has been dumped by CBS onto the weak CW network.

Supergirl, probably could have been an effective tv show for cbs but she wasn't busty enough.



the supergirl on Smallville, they could have just given her a series of her own.



Not that the cbs supergirl is not hot, but she needs more chest.

Let's face it, the real point of these movies is to make each new one uglier than the last.

Anyone remember the original Supergirl from the early 80's?

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-29-2016 11:05 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I just can't understand why they would want to do a remake of this movie for ANY reason. It bombed the first time around.

Bad film, or failure or not, it's an existing Intellectual Property that they own the rights to and it has a 'passionate' nerd fan base.

This is why Disney spent $150 millon + $150 million in advertising to launch the start of a new 'Tron' Trilogy' in 2010, a remake of an early 80's film beloved by a hardcore modern nerd fanbase, that most of the real nerds I knew back in the day were indifferent to, because, well, even the audience who should have been most into it thought it sucked.

The remake was tracking terribly before release and opened to a woeful $43 million. As such, the sequels never materialised.

I just read a quick breakdown of it after the first weekend, when people are trying to figure out What Went Wrong.

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What I'm guessing might have happened is the thunderous reception that infamous Comic Con presentation had on the fanboys a couple of years ago... ... seduced Disney into thinking they had a pop culture event in the making.

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In any event though, the numbers aren't pretty. It's yet another in the long line of 'you can't trust Comic Con as a Joe Popcorn indicator' as Kick-Ass and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World had the same opening weekend struggle after geekgasms at the event. Could this be the end of niche, comic and fanboy properties greenlit so urgently by film studio's? Probably not, but it might make them wonder a second or two longer before they visit their ATM. In any event though, the numbers aren't pretty.

See also: 'The Legend Of The Lone Ranger', 'Tomorrowland' and fat fuck Harry Knowles obsession with 'John Carter Of Mars', all huge Disney bombs based upon properties with tiny fan bases.

Disney, obviously, never learn anything. Don't interrupt them. Don't point to the movie. Don't kick up a stink about it. Just ignore it, and if and when it comes out, simply say to your friends with an indifferent shrug that it 'looks shit, what else is on?'

(07-29-2016 03:51 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Anyone remember the original Supergirl from the early 80's?

Oooh, yeah. Helen Slater. Of course, Hollywood was being subverted in the 80's by the Marxists, so within two years they'd uglified her.



Go back to 80's films some time, and note how often beautiful women have been giving ugly, short boy hair.

[Quintus Curtius]

Boschulus.....I keep imagining you saying these words, and it's making me laugh, man. Razor-sharp observations, as usual.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-29-2016 06:14 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

Boschulus.....I keep imagining you saying these words, and it's making me laugh, man. Razor-sharp observations, as usual.

No worries, mate. Since you suffered through whatever-the-fuck 'The Rocketeer' was, I'll send you a pic of my Ex's Legendary Tits to make up for it. Give me a few minutes.

[[email protected]]

A bit confused here, why are these gimmicks being double downed on? I thought Ghostbusters flopped big time and cost a quarter billion dollars. Can anyone explain this?

[eradicator]

(07-29-2016 03:51 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Let's face it, the real point of these movies is to make each new one uglier than the last.

Anyone remember the original Supergirl from the early 80's?

The 80s supergirl was certainly better looking but that film was gawd awful.

I don't really think young guys want to watch a superhero film with a female as the lead, they do well as part of a team(Jean Grey, Wonder Woman, Thor) but on their own, it's not as compelling for a comic series or a comic book movie.

[eradicator]

(07-29-2016 05:40 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 11:05 AM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

I just can't understand why they would want to do a remake of this movie for ANY reason. It bombed the first time around.

Bad film, or failure or not, it's an existing Intellectual Property that they own the rights to and it has a 'passionate' nerd fan base.

This is why Disney spent $150 millon + $150 million in advertising to launch the start of a new 'Tron' Trilogy' in 2010, a remake of an early 80's film beloved by a hardcore modern nerd fanbase, that most of the real nerds I knew back in the day were indifferent to, because, well, even the audience who should have been most into it thought it sucked.

That is a good reason, they own the license and can potentially market it. I'd say go ahead and make the movie if they can make it for $20M, and then the hard core fans will emerge and see the movie. But spending 150M on rocketeer 2, would seem like a catastrophic mistake.

And funny you mention Tron. I keep remembering how people at the time were saying that Tron was the height of special effects in film. Looking back, it was just some lit up stick figures and not very good special effects at all, star wars came out in the 1970s and had better special effects.

[AnonymousBosch]

(07-29-2016 07:09 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

That is a good reason, they own the license and can potentially market it. I'd say go ahead and make the movie if they can make it for $20M, and then the hard core fans will emerge and see the movie. But spending 150M on rocketeer 2, would seem like a catastrophic mistake.

If you've got an IP with a niche fanbase: spend $8 million, make a TV series, put it on Netflix. You'll get the initial nerd fanbase spiking the viewship, and should have a long tail of undiscerning binge-watching sloths who see it and think "Well, I guess it's something to watch."

The key is to do it cheaply.

Remember when Yahoo thought the online nerds furious obsession with 'Community' was worth sinking $42 million into and staking their Online Streaming Service around it as the flagship show?

Result?

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Yahoo! Screen was an on-demand streaming service for TV shows, movies, webisodes and other new media from Yahoo!

What's the reaction to this. Well, obviously, the problem is now there should be a 'Community Movie'.

As Vox Day says, they always Double down.

They also had something by Paul Feig called 'Other Space' that I've never heard anyone talk about, but, judging by the 'High School Outcast' nature of the cast pics, shows Feig's deep, burning hatred of normality and functionality once again failed to resonate with an audience. The guy is a good investment if you want to repel a mass audience.



This is what SJW's do: they try to elevate the ugly and broken into heroes, because they deeply identify with failure.

The guy who owns the property I'm staying at was watching some new show set in the 80's when I came into his place the other week. (Looked it up: 'Stranger Things'). He was laughing at how retro it was, like it was a mashup of everything he watched as a kid.

I couldn't play close attention, 'cause, dammit, seeing a post-wall Winona Ryder broke my teenage heart.

One thing, however, was he pointed out how the heroine's dumpy, mom-hipped, fading into the wallpaper best friend was a dead ringer for Elizabeth Shue's friend in 'A Night On The Town', which I could see, if you removed all detectable charisma and comedic ability from that character. (It came up recently when his young daughter repeated the 'Don't Fuck With the Babysitter' line).

It's the 'dumpy best friend of the hotter main character' archtype:

80's original:



16's version:



So, looking it up now, what did I see? All the leftist media have seized on this bland, fat character with no detectable charisma (who apparently is only in the first two episodes), as the most important character on the show, and is now a breakout star / internet sensation, and I'm seeing the narrative being formed.

Buzzfeed, The Huffington Post, The Onion, Vulture, UsaToday, Hitflix, The Mary Sue, The Guardian are all pushing her hard, because she fits the narrative: particularly that she's an innocent victim of her hotter friend's quest for 'conformity' and 'hanging with the cool kids'.

It's like these sites are run by Goths. Sure, they're listening to Taylor Swift and Beyonce, but, in their heart, they're Cure fans.

And, yes, Tumblr is already doing fan art.

https://www.tumblr.com/search/barb%20stranger%20things

Why? Because ugly, damaged people only have sympathy for the broken, because they can't imagine aspiration or social functionality.

One of the sites is even calling for her to play something called 'Squirrel Girl'. I'm guessing it's a superhero thing. All that now needs to happen is for some Narrative-Obsessed Executive to notice the hype, and sink $80 million into a movie with her as the lead, thinking it's what the mass audience, and not a tiny, sour and broken minority want.

It seems obviously-stupid to us, but it could happen.

So, what are we left with with "The Rocketeer"? An expensive, would be tentpole based around an oppressed double minority fighting sexist and racists Nazis during World War II? This sounds awfully familiar. Wasn't this a superhero show the Feminists were going on about recently as evidence why 'Ghostbusters' would work?

Quick research later: Yeah, something called Agent Carter, which was apparently related to those big Marvel Movies, so, as mass market culture as you can get, and was about a Strong Female Character that audiences 'get to know as a person first, superhero second'. Result?

First double episode: 6.91 million viewers.
Second episode: 5.10.
Eighth Episode: 4.02.

The media starts talking about how it would be Sexist and Racist to cancel the show now because it needs to show all of the Asian and African American Women War Heroes that totally existed.

Ninth Episode: 3.18
Eighteenth and Final Episode: 2.35.

Cancelled.

The media now start flailing about speaking about how 'important' this is, and saying someone should take it to streaming. Whereas, I'd look at those numbers and think "Why invest in something that it's obvious no-one wants but the media?"

This is the fundamental problem. Hollywood has a broken world view based upon Groupthink, and has no idea of basic functions of entertainment, such as how to be exciting, funny or inspirational, which is why I never sit still long enough to watch full movies or tv shows anymore, (a mate now calls the part where the movie starts going to shit as 'The Bosch Wanders Off' moment). It can only sell a Leftist Narrative, and when its shown audiences don't respond, they're incapable of admitting their worldview is wrong, so only know how to double down.

Someone really needs to put together an Information Package for the Japanese and Chinese Owners and Investors of Movie Studios, to explain to them what Social Justice is, how it infects their organisations and destroys their product, and how it can only lose them money.

[RawGod]

(07-29-2016 08:32 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Someone really needs to put together an Information Package for the Japanese and Chinese Owners and Investors of Movie Studios, to explain to them what Social Justice is, how it infects their organisations and destroys their product, and how it can only lose them money.

I think they will catch on pretty fast. As an aside, it's kind of sad to see young, hopeful Asians looking to consume Western pop culture and being served a shit sandwich. From my first-hand interactions I know that Japanese are catching on to the fact that there's something up with the west, it's no longer a fun, safe place to visit on vacation and to copy in music, fashion and so on.

[LeeEnfield303]

(07-29-2016 12:18 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Jennifer Connelly was also in a great under-rated sci fi movie called Dark City.

Love that film.....really loved the prostitute in it...the blonde who was killed. Very very nice


Speaking of Jennifer Connelly..


1. The Hot Spot (she was 18 in that one)
2. Requiem for a Dream ( Holy fuck)

[kbell]

I actually liked squirrel girl for awhile. Even did some art work of her. Very bizarre comic, but has a strong feminist undertone. An homely superhero with weak superpower somehow defeats overpowered characters. Usually done off frame. Her friend is a attractive model who super power is to become obese, a teammate who can't die, and a few others I forget. I'm not quite as fond of her now since I wasn't aware of the manosphere at the time, so the feminist undertones I didn't pick up.

Stranger Things actually killed off the homely character because you expected her to become a main character.

[Suits]

(07-30-2016 05:29 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 12:18 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Jennifer Connelly was also in a great under-rated sci fi movie called Dark City.

Love that film.....really loved the prostitute in it...the blonde who was killed. Very very nice

Woah, bro! Spoilers!

[CynicalContrarian]

I'd say - it's almost as if someone is actively trying to ruin Hellywood from the inside...

Yet you know they're not.
They are ruining Hellywood (& maybe that's not such a bad thing), yet I imagine it's because they actually think this shite is worthwhile.