Quote: (08-05-2016 06:59 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:
It's probably partially location dependent. I can send a few dozen messages out on OKC over a week and have a pretty solid chance of getting a date.
Daygame? I've done a decent number of approaches around here, both day and night, and the women are pretty much not receptive...they often simply don't even seem to understand the reason why someone not in their social circle would be talking to them.
Last weekend I opened this one early 30s girl in a bar and she just turned to me with a dead expression on her face and said "Huh? I'm sorry, what was the question?" I hadn't asked a question. She just didn't seem to understand why a man in a bar would be talking to her.
I've asked a couple of the girls I saw regularly from online in their late 20s/early 30s what they would do if a guy approached them during the day, and pretty much to a one their eyes would go wide and say "I...I have no idea. I dunno. That'd be scary. I'd just probably try to get away..." I've asked a number of couples I'm acquainted with how they met, and it's all the same reply: "through our friends/on Tinder/OKCupid."
If I ever heard someone say "He just started talking to me in a coffee shop" I'd pretty much keel over from shock.
New England is heavily feminist, so whats happening here is probably the future of the West. Young women are becoming hyper-introverted spastics, unable to interact with men in the real world without the social circle/online vetting process making them feel comfortable. I know this one dude who's in his mid 20s and looks like a male model, he's from EE...I feel kinda bad for him because 25 years ago all he'd have to do is pretty much walk into a club and start chatting up the first cute hoe he ran across and be in for the kill.
What's he up to now? He's showing me pics of a girl he's been chatting with for half a week on Tinder who's perhaps a "6.5" on a good day, asking me "What should I do? Do you think she likes me? I'm having trouble getting her to meet up..."
Sad times. It feels like the script is flipping to where approaching girls in real life is becoming not a "DHV", but a "DLV"; if you were a guy worth banging you'd have an Instagram account with a thousand followers. What are you approaching girls in bars for like some kind of creepy dinosaur from the 20th century?
I'm certainly not saying it's impossible, but in this area it's really hard to justify the repeated ego shocks of getting blown out and hostile rejections again and again on day/night game approaches when I can just sit on my ass in my home office, log on to the sites occasionally, and wait for that one DTF girl to show up in my inbox on average once a month.
Your experience is a combination of things:
1. Culturally, New England women/people are not generally friendly to random strangers. I think many also harbor anti-white sentiments. Throw in some libtard politics, fucked up ratios, shitty weather, and some militant feminism and that makes for a tough cold approach environment.
I don't think the rest of the West is gonna be like New England though; New England just sucks because it has the near perfect storm of shitty conditions for cold approach. This won't be the case everywhere.
Goto the south? Friendly towards strangers (mostly).
Goto NYC? Better ratios/thirsty women.
Goto San Diego? Good weather year-round and therefore, lots of chances to generate leads.
Go overseas to SEA? You're rich compared to most people.
SEA is not the west obviously but the point is that New England just sucks for cold approach because the environment is shit all around; nothing is working in your favor there.
2. You asked girls from ONLINE about their attitudes towards cold approache and actually took it seriously? They are ONLINE girls and by default, have a much higher chance of having anxiety or anti-social issues. So, their take on being approach by a stranger is meaningless for the most part. They don't represent all women.
3. In my opinion, lone wolf night game is dead in the US unless you are going to a private party/function. Going to a typical bar these days is such a waste of resources if the primary objective is to get pussy. Bars are stupid overpriced, the ratios are almost always shit, and only certain demographics even goto bars anymore.
That all said, I would focus on (all at the same time):
1. Building up a social circle
2. Doing an activity that is conducive to meeting people
3. Doing passive day game. Active day game should be limited to colleges where you can knock out a ton of approaches quickly and efficiently. Passive day game
just means looking for the slight gleam of burning desire in some chicks eyes and going for it; that's ALL you need to comfortably open a chick and succeed with some consistency.
Once you get the social circle built up, you can start hosting people and expanding out further.
With the activity, you can use it screen people (men and women) who you want to invite to parties and other events. I invited some chick the other day from my activity to tag along for some shopping.
If you do this, you THEN can hit up a bar for shits and giggles but instead of being a lone wolf, you can roll with a crew of people and have social proof. With social proof, you can approach other groups easier (you're not some lone wolf potential threat) and then expand your overall social circle further.
Rinse and repeat.
It requires a bit more effort and investment, particularly upfront, but I find this route to be a lot more fulfilling for bangs (and otherwise) as oppose to chasing garbage on dating websites. You don't have to stop online dating entirely like I did but just understand that every minute chasing women on the internet is a minute that could be spent doing all the aforementioned stuff I outlined instead.
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