[Patriarch]

This is currently the best thread on the forum, please keep the stories coming.

[Robert Plant]

"Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing."

This is exactly why I follow Blackdragon's non-monogamous relationship model almost to a T. I'm not advertising here but he (Blackdragon) really does have this stuff figured out and it works. There is a way to have love in your life and also be free. For actual gaming though Roosh and Mystery take the cake.

[456]

(07-26-2016 10:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@456

I wish.

6 months into it, most guys are trying to keep it going, or blissfully unaware.

Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

WIA

I've done it -- only one time did I end a relationship (6 months) spectacularly like that. I was ashamed for days though because staying ice cold and just walking out would have been better than causing somewhat of a scene. (Did 100% no contact after, and she did same -- a sign that it was mutually pretty toxic.)

BTW I strike lucky with girls in that, most plates, I actually want to make into mini-or-normal-relationships. So to compensate, I've gotten quite good at getting out before the girl does. I've been the breaker-upper on all but my first real LTR well over a decade ago.

The best girls I broke up with -- the ones who would have gotten away -- still hit me up. It's so true that breaking it off first preserves whatever power / respect you earned. I re-invest the dividends by rarely accepting invites in those cases, so when I do it's meaningful.

A tip I inadvertently follow -- rather than beta backslide, I apathy side-slide. So at the very least she's still chasing me, even if she is realizing it's over. But I try to eject before I start getting into full heartless prick mode -- I do have a conscience and don't like to hurt people.

[kaotic]

(07-26-2016 10:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@456

I wish.

6 months into it, most guys are trying to keep it going, or blissfully unaware.

Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

WIA

Preach Brother ! Preach !

Like you've said it's heaven and it's purgatory at times.

Indeed chicks ALWAYS bring up the "what are we" talk. One time in my life did I ever said "I love you first" that was my final beta relationship before last.

I indeed get into something and ended (last LTR) and man was that absolutely taxing for quite a bit of time.

[Rocha]

I have another rule regarding dinners with chicks. I never pay if she is from a higher income country with femenist and empowered women traditions. Quite recently I grabbed my Swedish flag, took her to dinner in a nice relatively remote village south of Lisbon. I know that in that place the atm terminal does not work. So when it was time to pay we had 2 options, or I would walk to find a bank withdrawal machine and leave her alone in the restaurant, many miles away from her hotel, or she would go to her wallet and pay. She choose 2nd option...banged her in the car one hour later.

[HOD]

(07-21-2016 06:28 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Inspired by recent events

On my game bucket list is

- realizing I'm on a dinner date with a gold digger and getting an " urgent call from a client".

Anyone ever stuck the bitch the bill?

WIA

Oh, Oh, I always wanted to do this, but never had the dark triad thought of doing this, your brain has to think a certain way.

Only a gold-digger chicks would do this.

I don't have this problem anymore, because I screen heavy. But definitely would consider implementing it. I had some great opportunities in the past.

If I were to do it, I would just say, I'm going to use the phone outside and say your be back in a minute, and than run. Run Forest, run! or Grab a Taxi.

[christpuncher]

Strange how the main excuse I'm hearing not to do this is that you don't want to make the restaurant/waitress suffer because "what if the girl doesn't have enough money to pay?" How is that even a possible scenario? She doesnt have a credit card or bank card or any cash in her purse? Are you dating such dirt poor women that she can't come up with $100 of funds through any means in this situation?

She's not gonna cause a scene and embarrass herself in front of everyone at the restaurant, she'll just quietly, begrudgingly pay the bill and leave.

[PapayaTapper]

(07-26-2016 10:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@456

I wish.

6 months into it, most guys are trying to keep it going, or blissfully unaware.

Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

WIA

Comedian Richard Jeni (A funny mofo and influence on Patrice Oneal- may they both RIP) once described the differences in relationship progression for men and women as 5 broad steps/stages:

For women they are:

1. You date
2. You date exclusively
3. You exchange keys
4. You move in together
5. You get married

For men they are:

1. You bang her
2. You bang her again
3. You ask her her name
4. You tell her your real name
5. You regret telling her your real name

....Apropos of nothing. Thread just reminded me of that joke

[DimeBait]

Which one you guys is this? lol

Woman Says She Was Left With $163 Tab After Man She Met On Dating Site Dined, Then Dashed

[Cattle Rustler]

Couldn't be from the forum lol, he used his real name. A real RVFer would know to use a fake name.

2/10 WNBBWD&D, Would Not Bang But Would Dine & Dash.

Have any of you guys ever asked a girl to pay? I've heard storied from broads that guys would ask them to pay the entire bill because they forgot their credit cards and they (the dude) would "make it up next time", hahaha.

[NewDayNewFace]

So when we take these girls out they need to pay for their meal. If they don't then we can report them for petty theft.

[odesseus]

(07-21-2016 10:02 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

Yes, but as payback to a cockblocking dude.

I was at some conference and the pickings of the girls was pretty slim. I was doing alright but then is other zero game dude comes into the room and handing out a business card with his room number on it for the girls. His game was terrible, no one went to his room. He also made a point of cock blocking me and telling the girl that I was up to no good in pure white knight fashion.

The next morning, I walked over to his hotel...card with full name and room number in hand and had a sumptuous breakfast in the restaurant and billed it to his room. Later that night, when drunk I called his hotel and asked for a 3am wakeup call, and made sure that they call back 2-3 times or knock on the door as I was a heavy sleeper but absolutely had to make a flight.

I guess the asshole was right though...I was up to no good.

Savage! That should put an end to his White Knighting for awhile.

[Rawmeo]

(08-04-2016 11:26 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  

Which one you guys is this? lol

Woman Says She Was Left With $163 Tab After Man She Met On Dating Site Dined, Then Dashed

He probably got SIF'd; the girl isn't the slimmest in the world. I wouldn't feel bad about leaving the chick with the bill if she SIF'd me.

[DJ-Matt]

Definitely SIF'ed, that bitch is a whale. I would have screened her our before the date just based on her face, that's why all the new hep cats need to read this ROK article:

http://www.returnofkings.com/19383/10-te...rnet-fatty

[Laner]

Is there no responsibility left anymore?

How is this shit newsworthy. Thousands of guys, at this moment, are getting stiffed with bills for chicks ordering appies. Tonight thousands of men will go out with a chick for the first time and see that she is fat.

Not one news article.

Compare the two. The dude is way better looking than her, to the point he might even be gay (gay dudes are ruthless to women). What we all know is that if this woman seems too good to be true, she is.

This woman thought she hit the lottery. I know Cali can be a bloodbath, but how many handsome men are willing to date her in the light of the California sun? Zero.

[MY DETROIT PLAYAS]

First of all they met on POF, the absolute bottom rung of online dating

Its like throwing your line in the water, and reeling in an old boot or soup can

[Kish]

(08-04-2016 11:26 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  

Which one you guys is this? lol

Woman Says She Was Left With $163 Tab After Man She Met On Dating Site Dined, Then Dashed

He strikes again!!!

If he was a forum member i'd give him a rep point.

[getdownonit]

Scene of the crime

[getdownonit]

On a serious note, why is this even news?

I can't tell if it's more



or

[Player_1337]

Have you guys ever done this to a girl on a drink date? (i.e. where you realize she's not gonna go home with you/you won't see her again, and she's just a serial dater/wasting your time) I'm inspired to do this in those scenarios (mainly online girls who won't come fresh direct).

[getdownonit]

(07-26-2016 10:52 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@456

I wish.

6 months into it, most guys are trying to keep it going, or blissfully unaware.

Chicks are the first to fall in love
First to want to be exclusive

And first to want to be out

Hallowed is the player who gets into something and ends it. The player m.o. is to avoid the tie down in the first place, because breaking up a relationship is too mentally and emotionally taxing.

WIA

How did this gem end up buried in this thread?

[456]

Though around these parts, I suspect most of us think "fuck what was I thinking" after a honeymoon period and are willing to end it first.

But the reasons it is hard to are exactly the same reasons a Rollo would yammer on about -- no "relationship equity", "burden of performance", heh.

My thing is shit, there's enough of a burden of performance I hold myself to, who got the time to worry about someone else?

The hardest thing really is breaking up with girls that are good and haven't really done anything wrong.

Gotta check out some black dragon stuff.

[Mufasa]

high quality posts in here and some great frame management examples

[nola]

This thread makes me want to go back west to a left leaning city and take a bunch of feminist on dates.

Every time she starts talking about her career and independence I can excuse myself to the restroom or to take a quick emergency call.

I wonder what the media narrative would be if it became an epidemic.

[Kish]

Damn! Our boy got arrested and he's in jail.