[Enigma]

This is breaking news just released by several media outlets: Fox News, Info Wars, etc.

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A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not released to the media, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

Police witnesses in Parliament said they vomited when they saw the disfigured bodies.

Wahhabist killers apparently gouged out eyes, castrated victims, and shoved their testicles in their mouths. They may also have disemboweled some poor souls. Women were stabbed in the genitals – and all the torture was, victims told police, filmed for Daesh or Islamic State propaganda. For that reason, medics did not release the bodies of torture victims to the families, investigators said.

But prosecutors claimed these reports of torture were “a rumor” on the grounds that sharp knives were not found at the scene. They also claimed that maybe shrapnel had caused the injuries.

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Q. For the information of the Commission of Inquiry….can you tell us how you learned that there had been acts of barbarism within the Bataclan: beheadings, evisceration, eyes gouged out …?

Investigator: After the assault, we were with colleagues at the passage Saint-Pierre Amelot when I saw weeping from one of our colleagues who came outside to vomit. He told us what he had seen.

Q. Acts of torture happened on the second floor?

Further on the investigator described how this was kept from relatives:

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A. Bodies have not been presented to families because there were beheaded people there, the murdered people, people who have been disembowelled . There are women who had their genitals stabbed.

Q. All this would have been videotaped for Daesh !

A. I believe so. Survivors have said so.

Elsewhere the investigator says women were sexually tortured, stabbed in the genitals, and their eyes were plucked out. People were decapitated.

The committee chief pressed the investigator on whether victims were decapitated or mutilated. He stated that the authorities had given out conflicting information that said victims were merely shot or blown up. The President of the Committee replied with this damning statement about one victim’s father discovering the gruesome truth in the morgue:

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Mr. President Georges Fenech Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which has appeared nowhere [in the media]. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary: “On the causes of the death of my son A., at the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and what a shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, had put them in his mouth, and he was disemboweled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. He said: This is “the only presentable part, your son’s left profile.” I found that he had no right eye. I made the remark; I was informed that they had punctured his eye and sliced down the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see. ”

This particular witness could corroborate the statements that we heard from one of the BAC officials, that one of his investigators vomited immediately on leaving the Bataclan after finding a decapitation and evisceration. Are you aware of such facts?

The prosecutor replied lamely that no sharp knife had been found at the scene that could have been used for torture. Perhaps shrapnel had caused the mutilation, he said. The head of the committee asked if an explosion would have placed testicles in a victim’s mouth:

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Prosecutor: I specify, for the sake of clarity: some of the bodies found at the Bataclan were extremely mutilated by the explosions and weapons, to the point that it was sometimes difficult to reconstruct the dismembered bodies. In other words, injuries described this father may also have been caused by automatic weapons, by explosions or projections of nails and bolts that have resulted.

Q. Would those have put a man’s balls in in his own mouth?

Prosecutor: I do not have that information.

The news follows reports that German police sat on the huge number of sexual assaults committed by Islamist migrants in Cologne, which a secret report estimated at thousands, not hundreds. Heat Street will continue to report.

http://heatst.com/uk/exclusive-france-su...-massacre/

[nek]

As time goes by, I realize that the weapon we need to fear the most is not the AR-15, the tank, or the Atom Bomb, but censorship.

[Mercenary]

We are at war.



6 things you can DO right now to protect yourself and those you care about:

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[John Michael Kane]

Treasonous cowards are at it again. That's why alternative media outlets and the power of cell phone recordings are just as important as a rifle in the arsenal of truth.

[Enigma]

(07-15-2016 12:08 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Treasonous cowards are at it again. That's why alternative media outlets and the power of cell phone recordings are just as important as a rifle in the arsenal of truth.

At this point, between Islam/migrants and BLM, I feel like the media is actively contributing to the slaughter of large numbers of people.

[Renzy]

(07-15-2016 11:23 AM)Enigma Wrote:  

This is breaking news just released by several media outlets: Fox News, Info Wars, etc.

Quote:

A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not released to the media, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

[quote]Mr. President Georges Fenech Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which has appeared nowhere [in the media]. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary: “On the causes of the death of my son A., at the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and what a shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, had put them in his mouth, and he was disemboweled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. He said: This is “the only presentable part, your son’s left profile.” I found that he had no right eye. I made the remark; I was informed that they had punctured his eye and sliced down the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see. ”

I truly hope that Trump becomes president so the West can wipe these ISIS monsters off the face of the earth.

[The Beast1]

(07-15-2016 12:29 PM)Renzy Wrote:  

This is breaking news just released by several media outlets: Fox News, Info Wars, etc.

Quote:

A French government committee has heard testimony, suppressed by the French government at the time and not released to the media, that the killers in the Bataclan tortured their victims on the second floor of the club.

[quote]Mr. President Georges Fenech Indeed, the Committee is troubled by this information which has appeared nowhere [in the media]. Thus, the father of one of the victims sent me a copy of a letter he sent to the investigating judge, which I quote in summary: “On the causes of the death of my son A., at the forensic institute in Paris, I was told, and what a shock it was for me at that moment, they had cut off his testicles, had put them in his mouth, and he was disemboweled. When I saw him behind glass, lying on a table, a white shroud covering it up to the neck, a psychologist was with me. He said: This is “the only presentable part, your son’s left profile.” I found that he had no right eye. I made the remark; I was informed that they had punctured his eye and sliced down the right side of his face, where there was a very large hematoma that we could all see. ”

I truly hope that Trump becomes president so the West can wipe these ISIS monsters off the face of the earth.

Isis? Egad, I want to eliminate all of the traitorous liberals in media, the government, corporations, and universities out there to the gallows. Absolutely disgusting.

[nek]

(07-15-2016 12:14 PM)Enigma Wrote:  

(07-15-2016 12:08 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Treasonous cowards are at it again. That's why alternative media outlets and the power of cell phone recordings are just as important as a rifle in the arsenal of truth.

At this point, between Islam/migrants and BLM, I feel like the media is actively contributing to the slaughter of large numbers of people.

I was just about to write a post on this. People weren't outraged until they were told to be outraged. It keeps the common man and woman in a perpetual state of infighting with no benefit except to those in the business of chaos.

[Enigma]

Just want to give credit where it's due and point out that our good friend, Paul Joseph Watson, published this information before the writer in the OP, who is really pushing the (false) "exclusive" angle:

http://www.infowars.com/report-french-go...g-muslims/

[LeeEnfield303]

The globalists' goal is to always keep the masses uninformed as to their designs until its too late. ISIS and the migrant invasion serves their purposes very well.

[Mercenary]

I am not seeing this on many news websites.
It's being buried and ignored.

I can't believe the day would come where I would say this, but fox news is actually the only big name mainstream news outlet with the most journalistic interegity at the moment.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/07/15/...ctims.html


A few others covering this story:


Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...llers.html

The Sun:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1454607/pa...y-is-told/

Washington Times:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016...cluded-gr/

New York Post:
http://nypost.com/2016/07/15/horrifying-...-revealed/

[Benoit]

Snopes - Bataclan Torture Coverup: FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-...n-victims/

On the DM story:

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After repeating most of the rumors as if they were fact, the paper added that "prosecutors at the parliamentary inquiry into the Bataclan deaths have cast doubt over the claims after revealing that no sharp knives were found at the scene."

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Even if the French government hadn't made public their findings about torture and evisceration at the Bataclan prior to the attacks in Nice, the post-Bastille Day attack rumor operated on the assumption such a coverup was even possible. By all accounts, 89 people died at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015, while another 200 were wounded but survived, and many more escaped unscathed. Contemporaneous reports estimated that 1,000 people were in attendance at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015 with 700 of them were physically unharmed. Had the French government opted to cover up acts of torture and emasculation at the venue, there was nothing stopping the vast majority of surviving witnesses from sharing their stories. None did.

[Enigma]

(07-16-2016 01:57 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

Snopes - Bataclan Torture Coverup: FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/france-covered-up-...n-victims/

On the DM story:

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After repeating most of the rumors as if they were fact, the paper added that "prosecutors at the parliamentary inquiry into the Bataclan deaths have cast doubt over the claims after revealing that no sharp knives were found at the scene."

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Even if the French government hadn't made public their findings about torture and evisceration at the Bataclan prior to the attacks in Nice, the post-Bastille Day attack rumor operated on the assumption such a coverup was even possible. By all accounts, 89 people died at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015, while another 200 were wounded but survived, and many more escaped unscathed. Contemporaneous reports estimated that 1,000 people were in attendance at the Bataclan on 13 November 2015 with 700 of them were physically unharmed. Had the French government opted to cover up acts of torture and emasculation at the venue, there was nothing stopping the vast majority of surviving witnesses from sharing their stories. None did.

Snopes are known liberal shills and that entry is just another example of their extreme bias.

1. They say Fox New and Daily Mail "single-sourced" their claims from Heat St. But Heat St. sourced their claims from the hearing transcript published by the French government. Paul Joseph Watson used the same source.

2. The articles I posted quote the testimony saying it's rumors as well -- but there's more discussion after that. Snopes just quotes the "rumors" comments out of context and then stops there.

3. Yes, the inquiry took place in March 2016, but it was not published until July. That's the whole point of calling it suppressed.

4. Yes, the reports was published before Nice. 10 days before. And PJW covered the report the day before the Nice attacks.

I don't speak French, but I'm pretty sure "le 5 juillet 2016" means July 5th, 2016.

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/14/rap...922-t2.asp

And the Info Wars article is clearly dated July 14th.

5. Their claims about how witnesses would have seen the torture is nothing more than baseless ramblings.

Most people who escaped wouldn't have seen the tortures -- or they wouldn't have escaped, because they would have been killed with everyone else. To even bring that up makes no sense. Especially considering the tortures were on the second floor, not the main floor.

And multiple witnesses did claim they heard torture taking place (from their hiding place in the basement) or saw the aftermath.

Everything about that "debunking" is nothing more than egregious and deliberate misrepresentations of the facts.

[Disco_Volante]

If your goal was to kill as many as possible, stopping to torture them individually would be a huge waste of time. The body count would never get very high if you took the time to do that.

[TigerMandingo]

Islamic terrorists behead people for breakfast. I don't see why this would be so "implausible" by the MSM or others. Check out any major conflict over the last 30 years between Muslims vs. any other group and you will find gruesome tactics being used by the Mohammeds.

[Foolsgo1d]

I'm not sure about this, too much dis-information.

What I will find ridiculous however is the whole case of evidence being dismissed on the grounds no sharp instruments were found. These are the same people who believe they are safe from bad people because we have laws, the police force and an army.

[weambulance]

(07-16-2016 05:24 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

If your goal was to kill as many as possible, stopping to torture them individually would be a huge waste of time. The body count would never get very high if you took the time to do that.

Yeah, but was that their primary goal? It's terrorism, after all. I'd personally much rather just get shot than get tortured for awhile first and then killed, or have to watch my friends or family get tortured in front of me.

[Latan]

ISIS has a tendancy to release such video, with much effort in editing.
Has someone found them?

I looked around without result.
Would be a great proof to show the world.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(07-16-2016 08:03 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

(07-16-2016 05:24 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

If your goal was to kill as many as possible, stopping to torture them individually would be a huge waste of time. The body count would never get very high if you took the time to do that.

Yeah, but was that their primary goal? It's terrorism, after all. I'd personally much rather just get shot than get tortured for awhile first and then killed, or have to watch my friends or family get tortured in front of me.

Besides, once you've gunned the place up then you're going to be left with a lot of moaning people that have been shot but aren't yet dead.

If you move on to another area to find more people then you dramatically increase your risk of encountering police, and besides, you'd have a tough task keeping up with the fleeing mobs.

So it makes perfect sense for a terrorist that they would stay put and mutilate a lot of people who might otherwise have survived or died less painful deaths.

[John Michael Kane]

(07-16-2016 09:46 PM)Latan Wrote:  

ISIS has a tendancy to release such video, with much effort in editing.
Has someone found them?

I looked around without result.
Would be a great proof to show the world.

Yes, but the French authorities probably confiscated and deleted the footage after killing the attackers, unless the terrorists uploaded it to the cloud prior to be being killed.

[sonoran_]

how many terrorists were there that night? From what I remember it didnt seem like enough were there to do this kind of thing, but then again its my mind putting up resistance to not wanting to believe this could be true.

[Going strong]

(07-16-2016 08:03 PM)weambulance Wrote:  

Yeah, but was that their primary goal? It's terrorism, after all. I'd personally much rather just get shot than get tortured for awhile first and then killed, or have to watch my friends or family get tortured in front of me.

There is a very important lesson to be drawn and kept in mind, out of this.

That is: Nowadays, if you are caught in a terrorist attack, and cornered, do not lay low and stay on the ground or with hands up, like the media and authorities ask you to do. It is not the right strategy!

Right strategy is, looking for active ways of escape (people survived by hanging from window sills, from outward-protruding concrete pieces of architecture)... or if you are cornered, jump on the terrorist, try to snatch his AK47 from him (usually these terrorist people are physically weak, and very bad shooters: proof is, when the French cops arrived at Bataclan, the cops easily killed all terrorists without sustaining losses. Other proof is, the Nice-city truck terrorist was undone by a single biker who jumped on him).

If you want a visual representation, think of the (not very very good actually) movie with De Caprio and the bear. De Caprio survives by understanding that playing dead will not be enough!!

Contrarily to what media say, if an angry bear is set on you, laying low and playing dead will not work! Same with terrorists: you have to lay your hands on some sharp instrument or club, and hit back, or the crazy mean beast (bear, islamist, BLM drugged suburban thug) will tear you to pieces!

This is an important lesson (taught me by Russians, about the bear and terrorists analogy), you have to disbelieve the castrating advices given to you by schoolteachers and media: when faced and cornered by beasts: wolves, islamists, bears, do not stay still with your head down, fight! Fight like a madman, jump on your adversaries, try and grab their gun!

That is what you have to do, and any grown non-Westernized man will understand it:

And if you are going to die, how would you want to die anyway? Laying on the floor saying "Please don't, Oh God, don't", shouting in pain and horror as you are torn apart by claws or knives?? Or grabbing a rock, a piece of furniture, and throwing yourself at your foe,

"Once more into the Fray...
Into the last good fight I'll ever know.
Live and Die on this day...
Live and die on this day... "

Or as Shakespeare would have put it, don't be killed without fighting: Dishonour not your mothers:

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead!
In peace there’s nothing so becomes a man,
As modest stillness and humility;
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
Stiffen the sinews, conjure up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favoured rage:
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let it pry through the portage of the head,
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o’erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O’erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill’d with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide;
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English,
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought,
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument.
Dishonour not your mothers: now attest,
That those whom you call’d fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war....

Edit: about the video, most people do not understand why Liam Neeson puts a big hard watch on his wrist, with metal hanging. It's because a wolf or wild dog will first try to incapacitate your moving hands (if you fight, if you don't fight he will go straight for your throat or groin) and wrists by snatching them, biting them, so that is why Neeson makes a mess of the spot where the wolf will bite...

[Disco_Volante]

^^^Excellent advice. I wonder if it's better to gouge the eyes, and then they will drop the rifle as a reflex, or if you just go for the rifle and then you're both pulling against eachother? But that might leave time for one of his compadres to notice and shoot you....

[AntiTrace]

(07-17-2016 09:32 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

^^^Excellent advice. I wonder if it's better to gouge the eyes, and then they will drop the rifle as a reflex, or if you just go for the rifle and then you're both pulling against eachother? But that might leave time for one of his compadres to notice and shoot you....

In a real life and death tussle, there are no rules and there is no honor. Put the opponent down using whatever means you have available. Gouge the eyes, hit the groin, get on top of him and start chewing his fucking face off, throw sand, overwhelm the opponent with as many people as possible. Regardless of what body part you target or what dirty trick you use, do not relent a single percent of your energy until the fight is over.

There is no fair fight. Do what you need to win. Be violent. Violent like you never been before. Unrestricted use of speed, force, and surprise to achieve utter domination of your opponent. Violence of action. There is no other option.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Here are some things that people at the Bataclan might have wished they had on them.











As for the utterly unenviable task of attacking a gunman, the key lies in making the distance between you and him zero in the shortest period of time. Rifles in particular are not easy to make use of when you're face to face with someone.

Having done a number of self defence training scenarios it's amazing how for most people their initial reaction is to grab at the end of the gun and pull away, functionally pointing the barrel directly at them. They immediately feel stupid afterward, but it's by far the most common reaction in the first instance (and potentially the last if it were in real life).

Survival lies in the ability to get beyond the end of the barrel. Once it's to either side of you then for all intents and purposes, bear him to the ground, keep the gun pinned and rip his throat out with your teeth.

Or whatever else gets you through the day.