[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

To make the religious, true believer wife really work, whether Christian or Muslim, you have to be a true believer too, and stay active with your family in that religious community for life.

[nomadbrah]

You will only marry a muslim girl if you convert so ask yourself Roosh (and others) if the muslim lifestyle appeals to you? Down on your knees and pray 5 times a day, go to the mosque and listen to some long bearded Afghani or Arab every week, have constant phone calls from one of the tens of uncles of the girls, being invariably dragged into some kind of crime (if in Europe) due to extremely high levels of crime.

Really think it through what being muslims entails first.

[godzilla]

Aren't Muslim women the fattest in the world?

Ill take a skinny girl with 10 notches over a fat one with 0

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Fattest in the world? There's more to the Muslim world than Saudi Arabia and Mauritania!

[Horus]

I get the feeling that Roosh is pondering the idea of getting married and having babies.

[The Black Knight]

(07-01-2016 10:00 AM)brob Wrote:  

I had a good experience with a Muslim girl. She had some of the strongest family ties I've ever seen. She was a virgin. She agreed with many red pill truths. Condemned whores. Condemned feminism.

Sometimes I wonder if the western moderate version of Islamic culture could be the sweet spot in between the violent extreme culture many Islamic countries find themselves in, and the anything-goes degenerate western culture.

She was the one the best girls I've ever known really.

The catch was that she wanted me to convert to Islam. She also couldn't get over my sexual past of being a player.

I have wonder for a while now where the most traditionally minded women/potential "Mother of My Children" candidates are most likely to be in the world BUT minus the hardcore religious baggage/family.

I'm not religious and I'm not down with converting and dealing with all the baggage that comes with that despite acknowledging that certain religious communities can be an enormous positive contributor in maintaining a strong family.

Japan?

Mexico City/certain Latin American cities? (Raised religious but became somewhat liberal with age/moving to city).

China?

Nowhere?

Anybody have any ideas?

[Travesty]

Wife Hunting Abroad

[The Black Knight]

(07-02-2016 08:10 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

Wife Hunting Abroad

Seen that thread before but it didn't register for some reason when I typed up my question. Thanks for reminding me!

[Leonard D Neubache]

Marrying a muslim girl because islam has traditional values would be like marrying a martian because they also happen to have traditionalist values.

Good luck hanging out with martians, eating martian food, having to learn to speak martian, converting to martian principles of living and in the end still being treated like a human because in your heart of hearts that's what you are.

If I were looking for an LTR and was fortunate enough to find a muslim girl who was marriage material and wanted to go apostate then that would be a serious option. The traditionalist coding would have already been imprinted but you wouldn't have to put up with the BS of Islam.

Keep in mind that Islam might be tolerated currently, but world events can radically shift the narrative. You would NOT want to be a muslim living in America if New York disappeared beneath a mushroom cloud.

[Repo]

"Women who face the risk of public stoning or honor killing for non-marital sex least likely to have non-marital sex"

[OGNorCal707]

Maybe a more moderate Muslim country would be a good bet, say Turkey or Lebanon, a place where they women are somewhat liberal, but with more traditional values then western women. I saw some sexy ass women in Turkey and I know Lebanese women can be some of the hottest in the world. I think there is some serious generalizing going on in this thread, but that's par for the course now that RVF has gone full bore alt-right outside of game or travel sections.

[Rocha]

If someone is looking for a certain type of people less likely to engage in premarital or extramarital sex, I would say to put religion aside and focus on the culture/race.

From my experience and cultural observations Roma/Gipsy are the less likely. The major drawback for this option is if a guy engages in extra-curricular activities, her brothers will fill him with shotgun lead.
On a positive note, some girls are extremely hot, and no bs like sharia, q'uran, hijabs, haram, halal, terrorism...

[Huey]

(07-03-2016 09:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

If someone is looking for a certain type of people less likely to engage in premarital or extramarital sex, I would say to put religion aside and focus on the culture/race.

From my experience and cultural observations Roma/Gipsy are the less likely. The major drawback for this option is if a guy engages in extra-curricular activities, her brothers will fill him with shotgun lead.
On a positive note, some girls are extremely hot, and no bs like sharia, q'uran, hijabs, haram, halal, terrorism...

Yeah, she looks like the perfect candidate to raise a family with.

[911]

(07-03-2016 06:03 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Maybe a more moderate Muslim country would be a good bet, say Turkey or Lebanon, a place where they women are somewhat liberal, but with more traditional values then western women. I saw some sexy ass women in Turkey and I know Lebanese women can be some of the hottest in the world. I think there is some serious generalizing going on in this thread, but that's par for the course now that RVF has gone full bore alt-right outside of game or travel sections.

Agree, Napa dude. If you've spent time in Turkey or Lebanon, you'd have a different take on the whole muslim issue. In terms of cultural mores, they're somewhat like the US was in the 1950s, which IMO is the ideal (minus the segragation in the South).

I think you can find a similar vibe in southern Europe, avoiding the big cities, in parts of Spain, or southern Italy. Historically many of those areas absorbed moorish cultural traits, like the siesta in Spain or the food in Sicily.

[911]

(07-03-2016 12:32 PM)Repo Wrote:  

"Women who face the risk of public stoning or honor killing for non-marital sex least likely to have non-marital sex"

It's down to issues more fundamental than fear of stoning or honor killing, which are sensationalized marginal phenomena confined to a few tribal cultures or rogue states. It's more a matter of their cultures being tribal, more built around extended families than on individuals. Therefore, family honor takes precedence over individual short-term sexual fulfillment. If a woman behaved like a slut or put her unbridled sexual pleasure first, she'd bring dishonor to her family and damage her main support system.

That was actually also the dynamic in many Christian countries (especially Catholic) before feminism and mass media socially engineered it away. Ontario prime minister Wynne is a very good case study here, she destroyed the lives of her husband and children in order to fulfill her sexual urges:

http://henrymakow.com/2015/09/the-first-...wynne.html

Today not only is there no social stigma preventing that, but modern values actually encourage following those kinds of urges as "fulfillment", at the expense of building or maintaining more meaningful and longer-lasting family structures.

[Rocha]

(07-03-2016 09:29 PM)Huey Wrote:  

(07-03-2016 09:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

If someone is looking for a certain type of people less likely to engage in premarital or extramarital sex, I would say to put religion aside and focus on the culture/race.

From my experience and cultural observations Roma/Gipsy are the less likely. The major drawback for this option is if a guy engages in extra-curricular activities, her brothers will fill him with shotgun lead.
On a positive note, some girls are extremely hot, and no bs like sharia, q'uran, hijabs, haram, halal, terrorism...

Yeah, she looks like the perfect candidate to raise a family with.

At least to insemination, she is an amazing candidate

[leanmeansexmachine]

Haha, gipsy women can be very sexy but they are not to be trusted. They will burn you for everything you have and give it back to the family. It is the way of life of these people.

On topic of muslim women, it is simply a case of men still having control over their women, once muslim men lose control over their women that religion is doomed. I know quite a few girls and women who were ex muslim and are big time sluts.

[Design Engineer]

(07-01-2016 12:42 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

I can vouch for Muslims (pakistani/indian) in my family. Many of the guys were virgins until their 20's. If they did lose their virginity it was still very late and they had a low notch count.

Some can claim islam is red pill, however the men they produce seem to be very blue pill in the west. I hate using the pill analogy but I'm a black sheep of the family and do my own thing so I can see it objectively.

They just don't see game aware, and go with what their family. They put girls on pedestals, worship the women they marry. They don't seem like their patriarchal father's at all.

The women however split into 2 categories:

The liberal feminists - they aren't virgins, they've got a low but decent notch number, hell ones even full lesbo. I'm sure their are ones with high notch counts.

The born again muslim - they're virgins, rock the hijab, observe all religious practices, preach, and marry from arrange marriages.

Regardless of how individuals are or may be, Islam is very patriarchal and a masculine religion. You only need to look at Muslim societies and how men still rule those countries versus more liberal societies where women and liberal men are running and ruining things.

[BaatumMania]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...l-her.html

Apparently they do exist. This woman was flying to Australia and they don''t mention the gender of her "friend" but I am 100% convinced it was a guy. Some guy in Australia must had figured he would get to go balls deep and rawdog some 18 year old Arabian princess.. Literal internet international grooming of a teenage girl. Except she got intercepted in Thailand..

Thing is Kuwait to Australia is like 11,000. Kuwait to Berlin is like 5,000 kilometers. She probably would had been free if she had gone to Germany like most "refugees" are doing these days.

[BaatumMania]

(07-03-2016 09:17 PM)Rocha Wrote:  

If someone is looking for a certain type of people less likely to engage in premarital or extramarital sex, I would say to put religion aside and focus on the culture/race.

From my experience and cultural observations Roma/Gipsy are the less likely. The major drawback for this option is if a guy engages in extra-curricular activities, her brothers will fill him with shotgun lead.
On a positive note, some girls are extremely hot, and no bs like sharia, q'uran, hijabs, haram, halal, terrorism...

Having seen 10 million Gypsies begging for money on streets - that's not what the typical Gypsy looks like. And even if you marry one like that she'll turn into one of those nasty Gypsy grandmothers within 8 years.

Also in the comments people are clearly pointing out they aren't Gypsies but a Caucasus nationality (hey it should had been obvious when their skin wasn't dark like an Indian).

[BaatumMania]

Islam isn't the same everywhere. Lost country of how many times I got eye fucked by Indonesian women and how they would put out on the first date too (but man they seem to rival the Koreans in terms of being dead fish and awkward during sex).

[NoMoreTO]

Fact is, there are more Muslim men marrying muslim virgin women then there are Christian or other type of men marrying virgins. I met a Iranian girl off the boat recently, guess what, she made a claim to be a virgin and that the doctor could confirm the Hymen. Shes not even a hardcore muslim at all.

Heard a story from her about a modern muslim man dating a fundamental muslim girl. He's down, shes not hot and a little chubby, but apparently she's a sure bet for this guy. Curfew 9pm, lives with family, will cook, will obey, wants family, I'd bet $100 a virgin. If he marries her he'll have to live the life. The father is hardcore, the daughter too, if he wants to marry in and have a family he will have to quit the wine. I was left wondering from the convo what will this guy will decide.

Ya, lots of girls from Muslim countries and cultures giving it out. I banged Iranian girls and other muslim girls outside of wedlock, but that doesn't mean the muslims don't have more virgins. They Do. And with virgins come men marrying virgins. You gotta hand it to 'em.

To clarify, I'm not saying anyone should ever be hooking up and into muslim familes for Trad values. As a Christian it is teaching that "a divided house will not stand", to me that is a fact (Matt 12:25). You can't go believing in religion for puss, that's fucking bluest of the blue pill boys !

[RWIsrael]

Correction - Muslims Least Likely to Engage in Premarital and Extramarital Sex With Other Muslims

The Kuffars are fair game.

From what I've seen in Israel, it varies between men and women:

In Israel some Muslim chicks might be DTF in the big city where their family can't see, but they have to be extremely discreet as there is a very real chance of being killed for family honor if the family finds out. Ingrained in the culture.
Arab chicks I went to Uni with in Tel Aviv would wear tight jeans and revealing clothes and flirt, but on the way back to their village / town would cover up and play the modest devout girl.

Muslim men have no problem fucking anyone else and approaching very aggressively, it's almost a national sport to them to try and get it on with non-Muslim women (they love the blonde Russian immigrants), but would rarely approach Muslim women due to, again, the chance of her cousins straight up killing both the girl and the guy.

[Ouroboros]

(01-07-2019 12:47 AM)BaatumMania Wrote:  

Islam isn't the same everywhere. Lost country of how many times I got eye fucked by Indonesian women and how they would put out on the first date too (but man they seem to rival the Koreans in terms of being dead fish and awkward during sex).

Agree with that (except the part about them being dead fish in bed - not in my experience).

Funny how it's WAY easier to get casual sex with attractive young women in the country with the largest population of Muslims in the world, than it is in the liberal, cosmopolitan cities of its southern neighbour.