[xxMarco]

Didn't watch the whole video but one of the reasons I don't approach as much or chat up these type of gym girls or anywhere is because they have a shit attitude. Really bitch, who cares about your form or anything about you. Just because she's been hitting the gym for more than 6 months she thinks she's the supermodel lebron james of weightlifting.

Immature bitches, some of us have been hitting the weights for more than 10 years and they have the nerve to come into our house and tell us how to socialize. Get outta here with your goofy ass exercises. In the words of Patriece O'neal: "I'm better than you!"

[Germanicus]

(06-12-2016 11:08 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Although the average UK woman isn't quite in the same league of obnoxiousness as this haughty and patronizing beast, they're not that far behind and are clearly headed in the same direction of travel.

Dunno about that, mate. The few times I've been to the UK and tried gaming girls plus having been around UK servicewomen while overseas leads me to think you have it even worse.

I also banged a Canadian girl who had been to university in the UK and she was the most ill-mannered, neurotic, borderline autistic level of social-skills bitch I've ever put up with for some ass. Flirting to her was tossing insults. Canadian girls are no prize catches to start with, but I'm almost certain, having dealt with British women before, that her inner cunt was refined by her time spent in merry old England.

[Highlander]

Hello gentlemen!

I think because of the thread suddenly a thought came up in me and I really do not know a better place for advice/opinions than the good old Roosh-forum (for sure I will not ask this in a random bluepilled bodybuilding-forum or even worse in the ladies-category within a random bodybuilding-forum) - so I hope it is ok to ask here and please before you reply, do not please reply randomly out of your first intuition/instinct (risk for bias), but rather after you had some thoughts on it and have come to a conclusion or result.

now on topic:
For every man who is lifting a significant amount of years, lifting is not anymore something which you only do in order to get in shape, but it becomes way way more.
It is a really good school for life and self-bettering in my opinion and just a good way to take for personal growth and personal development.
So may traits which you cultivate within this sport (discipline, self-management, willpower, mental toughness, ambition, focus, present awareness, presence in itself, any many more) will lead over to other areas in life which will increase the probability for success in your chosen areas and in life.
And of course it has also long-term health benefits.

I hope that so far we all agree on this one.
But how is this for women who do lift?

Do they also have all this huuuge and potentially life-changing benefits from going into0 this sport which are so far beyond from just getting in shape?
I mean, for instance:
I would highly advice with a good feeling and a clean conscience to any men on this planet to give this sport a chance and go into it.

But I am not so sure if I could advice it to a woman who I feel closer to and I care about here long-term benefits and life-quality, as well as progress in her personality - oftentimes such a woman could be your sister, your mother or even your daughter?
How is the situation here?

On the one hand I do think that lifting would do them as well long-term very good things and would increase their life-quality and their personal growth.
But then you have such "Gym-Rat-Bitches" like in the linked YT-vid within this thread (and she is not an individual case regards to women who frequent the gym)
Such a woman has little to no human, female value and you do not want that such a negative development would happen to you mom, sister, daughter, partner or even wife;

But then again:
Maybe there is no correlation between a woman does lifting as her ambitious hobby and her being a low-value woman?
Or at least the correlation might be very little and there might be ways to influence a woman you care about to only get the best out of this sport (for her as a woman regards to her female value and for her as a person and human in general regards to her personality value) and to not develop in any potential negative direction.

Ok, so far my initial thoughts on this one.
I really would appreciate some insights from some of you guys!

[PrtSc]

In other news, don't ask a fish how to catch fish.

Personally I don't even really waste my time trying to pick up chicks like this at the gym. Most of the ones I see are usually just attention whores with a bunch of orbiter guys they talk to on the gym floor. There are lots of women only gyms or womens' only sections at gyms. If a girl is serious about getting fit and not being ogled, she will go to one of these. If you can get the quick bang tho why not, but these chicks are definitely not worth dating.

That said I have pulled it off a couple times here and there. It was always indirect into direct if I got a decent response. How I see it, a girl working out is completely fair game.

One funny story from the gym. This chick comes over to me and asks me to show her how to use a machine. Ok, this is strange for a girl to be picking me up like this, I think. I would normally just expect some eye contact. I end up showing her how to use this machine. All of a sudden this roided out giant comes over and starts talking to her; apparently this was her boyfriend. I end up going back to my workout. Basically this girl was trying to make this guy jealous. Crazy chick.

[Highlander]

I guess/hope your post out of nowhere is not relating to my post, cause otherwise you would have totally not gotten my post.

[Highlander]

Ah, really no one has an opinion about my concern in the post above the one from ''PrtSc''?
I really find this topic and question kinda interesting cause all of us lifters have likely some females in our lived about who we actually do care.

[Remington]

The gym is my asylum. It is my opportunity to focus and improve myself. Women try too hard when they are at the gym. The makeup is caked on and they wear all the tight clothes in order to attract attention. That stuff pisses me off. I give those women no time of day because the gym is MY time. Everything goes out the window, I focus solely on self improvement. Don't fall victim to that bullshit.

[RatInTheWoods]

Female advice: Worship me, compliment me and love me (if you are good looking)

Better advice: Game on as usual

[Highlander]

(06-26-2016 10:26 PM)Remington Wrote:  

The gym is my asylum. It is my opportunity to focus and improve myself. Women try too hard when they are at the gym. The makeup is caked on and they wear all the tight clothes in order to attract attention. That stuff pisses me off. I give those women no time of day because the gym is MY time. Everything goes out the window, I focus solely on self improvement. Don't fall victim to that bullshit.

I very much agree with you!
I wonder if you in this case also have an opinion on the topic/concern I have explained in post #28?

[Highlander]

(06-27-2016 12:38 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

Female advice: Worship me, compliment me and love me (if you are good looking)

Better advice: Game on as usual

solid enough, but very best advice imo:

Ignore, focus 100% on yourself (and the reason why you primarily hit the gym which should be bettering your personality and your physique) and skip the game to places/areas which are infinite times better places for gaming it up^^
Honestly, the gym is for many reasons one of the worst possible place for game and one of the most important reasoning for this one, should be that you wanna focus there 100% on yourself.

[XPQ22]

(06-12-2016 05:31 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Just a quick question: Are most American women of her age generally as entitled and obnoxious as the one featured in this video?

Well, the ones that talk, yes.

A new pathology I'm noticing is that, probably due to Internet/smartphone addiction, many young women seem to be losing the ability to communicate verbally at all.

I was in town the other night talking to a young man, probably about 24, outside the club and admiring his early 2000s Corvette.

His girl was with him, and we talked for about ten minutes about cars and motorsports and so on. The entire time we were BSing, she didn't say a single word, not one. She just either stared at us wide-eyed, or texted and smoked cigarettes.

I actually thought it was pretty "alpha" of him, particularly for a young guy. He totally didn't give a shit that she was standing around wanting to go inside the club...he was going to sit there and finish the conversation with me regardless.

But that is the kind of car a young "alpha" might pick. Good on you, sir. Your girl was pretty nice-looking too, but after you next her maybe pick one that doesn't resemble an android so much.

[Graff Ladonski]

girls only say what they think they're attracted to, not what they're actually attracted to

[Highlander]

(06-28-2016 10:28 AM)XPQ22 Wrote:  

(06-12-2016 05:31 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

Just a quick question: Are most American women of her age generally as entitled and obnoxious as the one featured in this video?

Well, the ones that talk, yes.

A new pathology I'm noticing is that, probably due to Internet/smartphone addiction, many young women seem to be losing the ability to communicate verbally at all.

I was in town the other night talking to a young man, probably about 24, outside the club and admiring his early 2000s Corvette.

His girl was with him, and we talked for about ten minutes about cars and motorsports and so on. The entire time we were BSing, she didn't say a single word, not one. She just either stared at us wide-eyed, or texted and smoked cigarettes.

I actually thought it was pretty "alpha" of him, particularly for a young guy. He totally didn't give a shit that she was standing around wanting to go inside the club...he was going to sit there and finish the conversation with me regardless.

But that is the kind of car a young "alpha" might pick. Good on you, sir. Your girl was pretty nice-looking too, but after you next her maybe pick one that doesn't resemble an android so much.

I am not sure here in this special example if you are spot on.
The thing is that in my opinion it is for her infinite better in such a situation to shut the fuck up and not showing almost like a kind of disrespect to her man by forcing herself into a convo about a topic she has most likely no fucking clue about and is not interested in it, but just let her man and in this case you talk about it as long as you would wish without making any noise.
If she would have pushed herself into this convo, then my alarms would immediately go on since in such a situation it might be just a low-classy attention-seeking-thing.
So in this particular situation she might have shown better value as a LTR-material by keeping calm (of course still being polite if there was a situation like maybe he has introduced you to her) , instead of being ''everywhere'' involved - I hope you know where I am heading to.

But still, regards to you thesis that Internet/technical communication have lowered massively the skill of verbal communication (face to face) on average, I could not agree more - 100% spot on, in my opinion!

[XPQ22]

(06-28-2016 03:49 PM)Highlander Wrote:  

So in this particular situation she might have shown better value as a LTR-material by keeping calm (of course still being polite if there was a situation like maybe he has introduced you to her) , instead of being ''everywhere'' involved - I hope you know where I am heading to.

But still, regards to you thesis that Internet/technical communication have lowered massively the skill of verbal communication (face to face) on average, I could not agree more - 100% spot on, in my opinion!

I guess it's a matter of degree, and also it's hard to convey the vibe I got in person.

Being polite and knowing not when to run your mouth about something you're not interested in is one thing. Being utterly silent like a statue and not even adding a single phrase like "My boyfriend really knows his stuff" or something to indicate that you're still on the same planet as everyone else is just kind of....strange.

I was definitely getting more of an "alien" vibe than a "girl who's simply being polite" vibe. Who knows...as since she didn't say anything it would be impossible for me to make any evidence-backed guess as to her mental state.

Maybe she didn't speak English...unlikely but possible. You found the perfect woman!

[Mjölnir]

(06-20-2016 09:05 AM)Highlander Wrote:  

I really would appreciate some insights from some of you guys!

I think you should introduce her to the sport, and take her with you. But not to workout with you, just go together... Bodybuilding will be great for her body, health and discipline if you make yourself an example to follow.

So, if you have a shit routine she'll most likely be a mirror of you, in any case.

If you met her at the gym chances are she's a meathead groupie (which can be ok, if you're jacked) or just a plain jane who enjoys the attention of thirsty betas when she wears her skin tight leggins.

Ideally you would want to find a girl, who never worked out before or trained very inconsistently for short periods of time (so she teoretically would'nt have embraced the attention whore behavior), so you introduce her to it and "she love's it", yeah right.

I mean this for young girls 18-26, older than that she had her shot at doing it and probably hated or couldn't care less, or saw her nubile body starting to get flacid and decided to change her life (will never be like if she started at her prime).

As for you mom, they usually never take it very seriously, (using mine a couple of friends as example) but the ones that take it its for the above reason.. Just stimulate her to do some cardio and she'll be happier and healthier..

Thats my 2 cents...

[DJ-Matt]

HAHAHAHAHA!

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Block O - 10 months ago
Balls deep action bustin all kinds of Nuts lol u dont know how to get a girl u never had to get a guy a day in your life

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Steven Giron - 1 week ago
This is why picking up women is way more difficult than it needs to be. You have women who wear super bright, super tight, attention grabbing clothing, wearing full makeup and a push-up bra, talking about "I don't come to the gym for attention". But honestly, you went there to do a slight 10 minute jog on the treadmill? Get the f*** outta here...PLUS women have the double standard of being able to judge every guy who's not over 6' and guys who don't have beards (Something they can't change), and in return, all you have to do is kind of not be too fat, and wait for someone to hit on you. Okay I'm done 

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orbitaldildo - 5 months ago
Just based on looks she's a 6.5 tops without makeup/lighting only a 5. But that attitude makes her a zero.