[DChambers]

I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-19-2018 01:13 PM)DChambers Wrote:  

I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.

The body was cremated without any toxicology analysis and against the wishes of the family, so who knows...

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

[quote='Simeon_Strangelight' pid='1804039' dateline='1529400941']
Rollo has an article on Bourdain who he calls Lifetime Beta and Big Fish at the same time:

https://therationalmale.com/2018/06/18/big-fish/

[quote]
...snip...
[/quote]

I thought this was one of Rollo's strongest posts in a long time. He tends to have a dry way of writing, and he is long winded. This post really held my interest, and he's right about the extra red pill bitterness that comes when you take the pill at a quite old age.

He's also right that even at that old age, it's better to take the pill, than to just be viewed as a nice guy provider. Many older men were raised to see this as an honorable self identity, and it's a rude awaking to be in late middle age or early senior years and suddenly have your eyes opened after been sucked dry by some young hussy.

Bourdain certainly seems to fit this pattern.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

This thread seems to have died out in mid-June.

Since then, some more controversy has been brewing over this and Penthouse magazine (of all places) has run an excellent column about it titled "Can We Talk About Toxic Feminity?"

The column calls out Asia Argento, Rose McGowan, and the whole #metoo movement. What's interesting is that this is in a (somewhat) mainstream publication. Here is one of the best paragraphs.

"Argento was not blackmailed. She was not threatened. She had a sexual relationship with Weinstein which resulted in a transactional, consensual union, because—let’s be honest—that’s how Hollywood works. Fast-forward a few years and Argento saw a bigger opportunity: She could brand herself as a survivor."

At the end of the article, the writer posts some from a Twitter account that was shut down after it started revealing inside details of the Bourdain-Argento relationship.

The writer also reveals Argento is a single mother of two kids (which I didn't know), and now considers herself a "victim" of suicide -- a suicide that people are starting to think was caused by her. She's like the kid who kills his parents then cries to the court that he's an orphan.

Link:
https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento...ninity.php

[CaptainChardonnay]

The guy has been talking about suicide and depression for a long time, noticeably on his episode in Buenos Aires when he was talking to a psychiatrist. Apparently BA has the highest concentration of psychiatrist anywhere else in the world so he saw one on that episode and opened up. Funny how I happened to watched that episode after he committed suicide and its clear all the signs were there years ahead.

[Robert Plant]

RIP Anthony Bordain. He inspired me to want to get back into travel which in a way helped get me out of my broken marriage.

Bordain's downfall was caused by emotional instability and beta male onitis. He let himself get too emotional with women he thought were cool, smart and edgy but for those of us who know game are actually dominant, manipulative shrews. In my experience, an older woman liking much younger guys is a huge red flag.

I pray for his daughter and pray that the fucked up women in his life will see their roll, repent and become more compassionate people as a result. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen.

[Rhyme or Reason]

(06-19-2018 01:13 PM)DChambers Wrote:  

I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.

It's easy, you hang yourself from the knob, with a belt.

Don't ask how I know.

[rishboy77]

Just watching the season combo episode where they ask him these morbid end of life questions ...knowing he died only a few weeks ago.

If you could see in this eyes... he was always to crack a joke..maybe to avoid letting us see the real Anthony Bourdain

[Jetset]

(07-01-2018 10:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

At the end of the article, the writer posts some from a Twitter account that was shut down after it started revealing inside details of the Bourdain-Argento relationship.

The writer also reveals Argento is a single mother of two kids (which I didn't know), and now considers herself a "victim" of suicide -- a suicide that people are starting to think was caused by her. She's like the kid who kills his parents then cries to the court that he's an orphan.

Link:
https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento...ninity.php

There's some more of these screenshots on an IG @the_orange_janitor that ostensibly has people corroborating.

This is some bleak, bleak red pill shit right here. If it's not real, it's certainly a very organized campaign.

[Bacchus]

(07-01-2018 10:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

This thread seems to have died out in mid-June.

Since then, some more controversy has been brewing over this and Penthouse magazine (of all places) has run an excellent column about it titled "Can We Talk About Toxic Feminity?"

The column calls out Asia Argento, Rose McGowan, and the whole #metoo movement. What's interesting is that this is in a (somewhat) mainstream publication. Here is one of the best paragraphs.

"Argento was not blackmailed. She was not threatened. She had a sexual relationship with Weinstein which resulted in a transactional, consensual union, because—let’s be honest—that’s how Hollywood works. Fast-forward a few years and Argento saw a bigger opportunity: She could brand herself as a survivor."

At the end of the article, the writer posts some from a Twitter account that was shut down after it started revealing inside details of the Bourdain-Argento relationship.

The writer also reveals Argento is a single mother of two kids (which I didn't know), and now considers herself a "victim" of suicide -- a suicide that people are starting to think was caused by her. She's like the kid who kills his parents then cries to the court that he's an orphan.

Link:
https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento...ninity.php

I don't know if "toxic femininity" is the best reframe. It just takes the feminist term of "toxic masculinity" and flips it to deal with women. Feminists don't do this.

They don't take manosphere terms like "pussy pass" and flip them to deal with men (because such a term wouldn't apply). They invent some moronic and grating terms like "mansplaining" or "male privilege" that somehow achieves acceptance through sheer repetition.

I think a return to the archaic putdowns for women is in order. Something like "Succubus Asia Argento Drained Bourdain of Life" or "The Danger of the #MeToo Sewing Circle"

[godfather dust]

(07-02-2018 10:32 PM)Bacchus Wrote:  

(07-01-2018 10:55 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

This thread seems to have died out in mid-June.

Since then, some more controversy has been brewing over this and Penthouse magazine (of all places) has run an excellent column about it titled "Can We Talk About Toxic Feminity?"

The column calls out Asia Argento, Rose McGowan, and the whole #metoo movement. What's interesting is that this is in a (somewhat) mainstream publication. Here is one of the best paragraphs.

"Argento was not blackmailed. She was not threatened. She had a sexual relationship with Weinstein which resulted in a transactional, consensual union, because—let’s be honest—that’s how Hollywood works. Fast-forward a few years and Argento saw a bigger opportunity: She could brand herself as a survivor."

At the end of the article, the writer posts some from a Twitter account that was shut down after it started revealing inside details of the Bourdain-Argento relationship.

The writer also reveals Argento is a single mother of two kids (which I didn't know), and now considers herself a "victim" of suicide -- a suicide that people are starting to think was caused by her. She's like the kid who kills his parents then cries to the court that he's an orphan.

Link:
https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento...ninity.php

I don't know if "toxic femininity" is the best reframe. It just takes the feminist term of "toxic masculinity" and flips it to deal with women. Feminists don't do this.

They don't take manosphere terms like "pussy pass" and flip them to deal with men (because such a term wouldn't apply). They invent some moronic and grating terms like "mansplaining" or "male privilege" that somehow achieves acceptance through sheer repetition.

I think a return to the archaic putdowns for women is in order. Something like "Succubus Asia Argento Drained Bourdain of Life" or "The Danger of the #MeToo Sewing Circle"

Good point, clearly neither masculinity or femininity are "toxic" in fact many here (including myself) think men should be masculine and women should be feminine.

"Toxic masculinity" is a total bullshit concept referring to any man who doesn't place his balls in his wife or girlfriend or woman-as-a-whole's purse when he gets out of bed in the morning.

Another thing I noticed in that article was she had to throw in "Trump regime" as if Trump has any significant support from other Republicans, let alone democrats. The only reason he is more powerful than other recent presidents is because he does not owe a billion dollars or more in favors so he is not on a leash like Obama, Bush, Clinton.

[getdownonit]

(06-08-2018 06:09 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

I'd like to point out guys that, for every Bourdain who is covered by the press, there are 100,000 men his age who commit suicide and nobody even pays attention.

Then another 500,000 men who drop dead of heart attacks or are living in the gutter drinking themselves to death, after having their lives ripped apart by some scum bitch like Argento. I have a half-dozen friends who have met this fate.

Even here in Rooshland, people don't know the full scope of death and obliteration that is waged against 60-something men. Once he passes 60, a man is utterly superfluous in the eyes of every woman, doctor, nurse, social worker, and wife, except his daughters. Just like the drone bees are discarded out of one side of the hive, as soon as they become weak or injured, so does our society dump men in VAST UNMENTIONABLE QUANTITIES when they hit that age.


Every women in the world looks at a 60-year old man and mentally, in the back of their heads, they think: "Isn't he dead yet? He can't protect me and can't earn a paycheck for me. Why is he still alive?". If he's rich they think "How can I steal his money and kill him so it's all mine?".

In summary, this is what happened to Bourdain: Asia found out he wasn't as rich as she thought, so she dumped him like a useless mule. He understood all this, and crushed by the experience, hung himself.


Not unlike Robin Williams' "suicide by ex-wife".

Called it

NY Post Wrote:

The late TV chef Anthony Bourdain was worth just $1.21 million when he hanged himself last month, new legal filings revealed Thursday.

Previous estimates had pegged his fortune at $16 million.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

At least he had some humor and left her his frequent flyer miles:

Quote:

Bourdain, who traveled the globe for his culinary adventure shows, gave his “accumulated frequent flier miles” to his wife. He asked her to “dispose of [them] in accordance with what [she] believes to have been my wishes,” he says in his will.

He left the same instructions for cars, furniture, books, clothing and other household items.

Ariane, his only child, is set to inherit the remainder of his assets.

His real assets are left to his daughter.

1 mio. $ is not much - he seems to have bought a property that was still 500.000$ under water. Some bigger richer celebrities lost tens of millions of dollars over buying real estate in bad times.

As for Asia Argento - not only is she a single mother, but she had posts up on Instagram alluding to pedophile relationships:





Do what thou want - old Luciferian rule.

[C-Note]

(07-06-2018 02:48 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  

NY Post Wrote:

The late TV chef Anthony Bourdain was worth just $1.21 million when he hanged himself last month, new legal filings revealed Thursday.

Previous estimates had pegged his fortune at $16 million.

Good grief, he had $1.2M in assets and $500K of debt and he was 61? He was getting near retirement age and he wasn't even close to where he needed to be financially.

[Jetset]

I have no idea how much Bourdain got paid per episode, but that is certainly a confusing fact. Sure, some guys overstretch but where did it all go?

[Thersites]

(07-06-2018 08:00 AM)C-Note Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 02:48 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  

NY Post Wrote:

The late TV chef Anthony Bourdain was worth just $1.21 million when he hanged himself last month, new legal filings revealed Thursday.

Previous estimates had pegged his fortune at $16 million.

Good grief, he had $1.2M in assets and $500K of debt and he was 61? He was getting near retirement age and he wasn't even close to where he needed to be financially.

I recall Bourdian was invested in food market in NYC. You can bet that good chunk of cash got tied up there.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Quote:

The market’s home at Pier 57 is now being readied for renovation, a crucial step for the project. Still, there are a lot of logistical questions that need to be answered if Bourdain’s dream of bringing in awesome international vendors is to be realized. Like, how to convince that Bún Thái specialist from Vietnam to come to the other side of the world.

Speaking with Vogue, Bourdain says housing and visas for international vendors is a “day one” concern and when asked about essentials like work permits and flights says, “we’re on it, man.” It’s an enormous project for anyone to undertake, but Bourdain is willing to make one promise: He will kill himself, he tells Vogue, “if it feels like a Todd English product.”

It's possible that he put a lot into the project - killing himself before completion was a total money-pit, because it banked on his brand name for marketing. It's also possible that similar to other ex-chefs their projects seldom generate enough money to justify the cost. Jamie Oliver certainly burned himself heavily with some of his stuff.

What famous or good chefs can mostly do well is open one restaurant where they show up often or actually cook themselves - that will get them lots of cash - not opening some chain or big project. He could have sunk 10 mio. $ + in that project plus some bad real estate decisions.

[Thersites]

(07-06-2018 08:24 AM)Simeon_Strangelight Wrote:  

It's possible that he put a lot into the project - killing himself before completion was a total money-pit, because it banked on his brand name for marketing. It's also possible that similar to other ex-chefs their projects seldom generate enough money to justify the cost. Jamie Oliver certainly burned himself heavily with some of his stuff.

What famous or good chefs can mostly do well is open one restaurant where they show up often or actually cook themselves - that will get them lots of cash - not opening some chain or big project. He could have sunk 10 mio. $ + in that project plus some bad real estate decisions.

The sad part for Bourdain is the fact he should know this. His first book, he talk about the environment of food industry in NYC. He should know about the pit falls of the industry and the snakes that run them. This is other part of the puzzle to his death.

To illustrate the cutthroat nature of restaurant business, reminder me of fun story of a guy that use to run a restaurant next to my family's. He bought a new place in other town and later got boot out of his own restaurant. It was later told that the bartender brought the place right from under him as he was keeping some of the profits from the bar.

[Dr Mantis Toboggan]

What stood out to me was that if his daughter had passed before him his estate was to be left to her nanny....not her mother or any of his other ex-wives/girlfriends.

[kosko]

Can a world travelling man be that naive to not learn about shell corporations to hide his money? Surely if you are spending time in Gilbrater, you quickly learn how the island stays afloat economically.

Anthony did go through a previous divorce which may have drained his wealth. $1.6 million for a guy who's own production company created his show, it all seems tragic. But women know how to spend man's money and if Tony was not a man with a backbone it is easy to see how women could take him for a ride financially.

A continued sad story of a weak man who could help himself from dealing with toxic witch-like women.

[Nordwand]

Given the comments about Argento, it does make you wonder about the content of this movie of hers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_Tears

[renotime]

Bourdain had a trust to protect himself.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/06/anthony-bo...y-suicide/

[godfather dust]

Net worth $1.6 million, life a blue pill hell...

Miles Davis was said to sniff an ounce of coke a day ($thousands.) A man can put a lot up his nose of he sets his mind to it.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(07-06-2018 01:44 PM)renotime Wrote:  

Bourdain had a trust to protect himself.

http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/06/anthony-bo...y-suicide/

Quote:

The will lists Ottavia Busia-Bourdain, his estranged wife, as trustee. The will was signed in 2016, after they had separated.

That makes more sense. He does not look like the kind of guy to have a high-on-the-hog living standard blowing through millions on the fly.

Bad investments might have cost him, but if he put money away in a trust fund, then even 5-10 mio. $ could be in it.

[MaxMillion]

(07-06-2018 08:00 AM)C-Note Wrote:  

(07-06-2018 02:48 AM)getdownonit Wrote:  

NY Post Wrote:

The late TV chef Anthony Bourdain was worth just $1.21 million when he hanged himself last month, new legal filings revealed Thursday.

Previous estimates had pegged his fortune at $16 million.

Good grief, he had $1.2M in assets and $500K of debt and he was 61? He was getting near retirement age and he wasn't even close to where he needed to be financially.

So what. Brilliant guys like Tony didn't necessarily think about "what is my next investment opportunity". Money was not a motivating factor for him. He was too busy becoming great - unlike many who squirrel away into obscurity.

I know. Radical, eh?