[ManAbout]

(07-28-2011 07:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Horizonz: I've stayed in tons of hostels, and they are usually sausage fests. Sure they are pretty girls, but are you banging them? If so, what's your game? Where do you seal the deal? Dorm or private room? What kind of numbers are you talking (i.e. how many nights in a hostel until you get one of the pretty girls you describe)?

I will say that hostel girls in Europe are ten time better than the ones in South America.

I am going to have to agree with Horizonz here. Each city has well known party hostels. For example the youth hostel in Lagos in the Algarve is a well known party hotspot. The best hostels usually have a bar attached. They Flying Pig and Bulldog in Amsterdam, Generator in London etc. Sometimes it is the luck of the draw. You end up at a hostel and it's full of Australian guys. Just as you are checking out the next day, you see a group of Swedish blondes coming in.

Years ago when I travelled to Europe with a couple of buddies we stayed exclusively in hostels. My game was non existent, so I didn't get past a couple of drunken makeouts with the hostel girls. But, there were guys and gals in the hostel hooking up all over the place. They were doing it in the bunk bed in a room full of 6 people, in the bathrooms etc. One time I came back from a drunken night in Ios, a Greek Island, and one of the Australian guys was getting a blowjob in the main common area from this absolutely beautiful 18 year old girl from the UK. This was a place that was recommended in the Lonely Planet guide. Another guy had sex with 2 girls on the same day in the hostel pool(different hostel).

If you are just going to Europe to get laid, and are not particularly hung up on scoring with a local chick then hostels are a great option. A lot of hostels have pub crawls and all kinds of activities to get people together. You are basically forced to socialize. If you are a shy guy and have trouble opening conversations then a hostel is a good choice. Hotels can get very lonely.

As for how long it takes, I would say pretty much the same night you check in. Everybody is thrown together. Girls that travel alone to Europe from places like the US and Canada are going there to get laid. They can be as slutty as they like and nobody will ever know. They stay in hostels for the same reason we do, they know the deal. That hot blonde 8 in Canada who won't give you the time of day when you see her back home will be much more likely to let you bang her after a night out drinking in some European beach party spot.

[Entropy4]

I don't disagree with any of this. If you want easy lays and don't care if they're local and are lax on the quality, then yeah, hostels are great.

Horizonz, at 22, hostels sound like a perfect fit. I did them too at that age and loved them. But I'm going on 28 now and quite frankly, am over them. I banged plenty of girls from them, but I don't enjoy them nearly as much as I used to. Hence my "under 25" argument.

To each their own.

[thegmanifesto]

...Took a charter flight on a DC-10 to London. Landed at Heathrow. Took a cab to the city center. Don't let people lie to you: hostels are for the ugly. I'm staying in Home House, the most beautiful hotel in the world. Called a friend from school who was selling hash, but she wasn't in...

[ManAbout]

(07-29-2011 09:55 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

Don't let people lie to you: hostels are for the ugly.

That hot 21 year old that you would love to bang doesn't have the money to stay in a fancy hotel. She is in London with her friends and is staying at a $20 a night backpacker hostel. She goes out partying with guys and girls she just met at the hostel. The cool suave American guy staying at the fancy hotel in town sounds nice, but she doesn't want to leave her friends and go off with him in a strange city. So, she goes back to the hostel with her new found drunk buddies and fucks some guy just because he happens to be around and climbs into her bunk and starts making out with her.

[thegmanifesto]

...That hot rich 21 year old that you would love to swoop wouldn't be caught dead in a hostel...

No need to debate. I was just quoting one of my favorite passages from a book.

I get it.

Some people like to be herded around like sheep on a pub crawl with other travelers.

Others like to find their own way.

Some people love the Lonely Planet guide.

Others would rather burn it.

Some people love "the Bulldog in Amsterdam".

Others would rather avoid it a go to top secret grow labs with local Amsterdam heads.

Some people need "organized activities" for them when they travel.

Others carve their own path.

Different strokes. I am am not talking about Gary Coleman either.

[ManAbout]

(07-29-2011 10:36 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

...That hot rich 21 year old that you would love to swoop wouldn't be caught dead in a hostel...

Not all hot 21 year olds are rich. In fact, most of them aren't. You think that the majority of hot 21 year olds from Poland, Czech Repub, Slovakia, Spain, Italy etc. are rich? No way. For every 1 rich hot 21 year old girl you find in a fancy hotel, there will be 10 hot ones at a hostel who are travelling around without daddy's money.

One of the basic prerequisites of getting laid is having access to the girl. If you are in the same hostel with her drinking and partying you have continued access to her. You don't have to say goodbye to her at the bar, you don't have to try and pull her back to your hotel. You just have to be persistent and keep stuck to her all the way back to the hostel and get yourself into her bunk.

[Vicious]

If you like the action of hostels then you're not after locals. Might as well in to a summer festival then in your own country. Far cheaper than to go across the world to bang other travellers.

[sheesh]

It really depends on how easily you can access the local girls. In some countries such as Spain and Italy, the girls in the clubs just don't give a damn about foreign guys from my experience. Staying at a hostel in that case is a good back up plan if you come to the conclusion that you're not going to pull any local girls.

Who says you have to go on organized pub crawls etc. ?

[ManAbout]

(07-29-2011 11:36 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

If you like the action of hostels then you're not after locals. Might as well in to a summer festival then in your own country. Far cheaper than to go across the world to bang other travellers.

You get a much broader cross section of girls. The girls you meet at a hostel in Paris are going to be a lot different, and the variety is going to be a lot more than the ones you find at your local music festival. Besides travelling and epxloring different cultures is fun. It's not exclusively about getting laid.

(07-29-2011 11:41 AM)sheesh Wrote:  

It really depends on how easily you can access the local girls. In some countries such as Spain and Italy, the girls in the clubs just don't give a damn about foreign guys from my experience. Staying at a hostel in that case is a good back up plan if you come to the conclusion that you're not going to pull any local girls.

Yes, in most Southern European countries, i.e Spain, Italy, Greece, Portugal etc., chances of banging the local hotties are very slim. Most of the time you are going to end up with another tourist. Staying at a popular party hostel is a good way to increase your chances significantly.

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Who says you have to go on organized pub crawls etc. ?

Many times they are not really organized pub crawls. People check in and then come and hang out in the common area or at the hostel bar if they have one. From there a pub crawl usually ensues.

[Entropy4]

Is anyone here who is defending hostels over 25? Or have any of you ever gotten an apartment and lived in a foreign city for 2-3 months before?

If you answered "no" to either then I rest my case.

Hostels are like traveling frat parties. Yeah, they can be fun, and yeah, there's the rare gem attending, but not my thing. I get far more pleasure out of staking out my own apartment and hooking up with the local talent. But that's just me. It requires time, money, experience, and often knowledge of another language. If you're blasting through a city in 3 days and are horny, by all means, do the hostel thing. But please, stop with the, "Hostels are the best way to travel and get laid," line. It's not true.

[ManAbout]

(07-29-2011 03:05 PM)Entropy4 Wrote:  

Is anyone here who is defending hostels over 25? Or have any of you ever gotten an apartment and lived in a foreign city for 2-3 months before?

If you answered "no" to either then I rest my case.

Why do you feel the need to force your age restrictions on others? You did hostel thing, now you thing you are done with it, and that's great. Why can't others keep doing it for as long as they like? If a 70 year old likes travelling around and staying in hostels, why not?

After all I am sure there are 28 year old married guys out there who are looking at you and saying, well if "you are 28 and still chasing girls" then blah, blah... blah. Everybody has their own pace in life. If someone over 25 still enjoys hostels, let them.

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Hostels are like traveling frat parties. Yeah, they can be fun, and yeah, there's the rare gem attending, but not my thing. I get far more pleasure out of staking out my own apartment and hooking up with the local talent. But that's just me. It requires time, money, experience, and often knowledge of another language. If you're blasting through a city in 3 days and are horny, by all means, do the hostel thing. But please, stop with the, "Hostels are the best way to travel and get laid," line. It's not true.

Again, it may not be true for YOU, but it may be true for somebody else. A couple of friends of mine travelled through Europe and got laid exclusively through hostel game. They had a good time, they got laid, they enjoyed their vacation. In their mind, that was the best vacation of their lives. It's what they know. It was the best way to travel and get laid for THEM.

95% of the guys out there don't have the money or game, you or Mixx or G have to travel around and get laid. So what are they supposed to do? Hostel game will work a lot better for them than what you stated. As you said yourself, it takes time, money and experience. Your way is one way. But, definitely not the only way.

[Vicious]

(07-29-2011 09:56 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  

95% of the guys out there don't have the money or game, you or Mixx or G have to travel around and get laid. So what are they supposed to do? Hostel game will work a lot better for them than what you stated. As you said yourself, it takes time, money and experience. Your way is one way. But, definitely not the only way.

Well that's c0mpletely different. If you lack the means for good hotels/apts of course you should adjust accordingly. Iy's definitely better than doinf nothing. But saying stuff like there's "10 hot 21-yos in hostels for everyone 1 in a hotel" is just unhelpful BS and borderline trolling.

[The Duke]

Stayed in a hostel in Kiev last night for the first time ever. Had some nice convos, there was a hot russian girl to stare at. Eight people were piled into one room. Woke up in the middle of the night sweating because someone decided to turn off the air conditioner. If you are willing to give up comfort, hostel's have something to offer. For me, I'll be reluctant to try that again.

[Gringo]

I'm 26 and I stay in hostels. I like to go away for 6 months at a time and the amount of money I'd need to do that if I was staying in hotels and apartments would be stupid. I've stayed in 5 star hotels many times in places all over the world but they are no fun for me. I enjoy hostels, there's a good vibe usually, everyones up for a laugh and being social, people have got stories to tell about their adventures. You've also got people from all over the world in them so it's not like you're just hanging out with people from back home, you've got a dozen different flags to try and capture.

Just because I stay in hostels doesn't mean I spend all my time with other travellers, go on package tours, use the Lonely Planet as a bible or get herded around like cattle. I mix my time up with the travellers who are free to do anything / go out at night any day of the week and the locals who are usually confined to being free at the weekend because they study or work. Never have I went somewhere and not spent tons of time with locals. I end up with a good social circle in most places I go and I'm welcomed back with open arms if I return.

Also this idea that it's fine to spend time with a French girl in France but you don't want to spend time with that same French person when you're in Peru is a bit of a contradiction. Makes no sense. Everyones a local somewhere and a foreigner somewhere else. I'm happy to meet good people wherever they are in the world.

There are hot girls in hostels, hot girls in hotels and hot local girls everywhere. You're definitely going to have more access to the girls in hostels as you'll be sharing a room with them but on the downside you've not really got much option for where you're going to fuck them and you also can't bring local girls back to most hostels so there are pro's and con's.

[ManAbout]

(07-30-2011 12:46 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Well that's c0mpletely different. If you lack the means for good hotels/apts of course you should adjust accordingly. Iy's definitely better than doinf nothing. But saying stuff like there's "10 hot 21-yos in hostels for everyone 1 in a hotel" is just unhelpful BS and borderline trolling.

It's not different. It's part of the same argument. If you stay in a hotel, you are not going to see any hot girls around in the hotel itself. So, you are going to need more game to pull them back to your hotel. In the hostels, they are all around you. All you need to do is start drinking with them at the beginning of the night and stick them till you come back after a night out and make your way into their room. You don't need any excuse to go to their hotel or to bring them back to yours. You are just there. She is drunk, she is horny, she fucks you. I have seen this scenario repeated countless times.

If there are any hot girls in the hotel, you are not going to see them much, even if they are staying there. So, yes you will see a lot more 18-21 year old hotties hanging around in the hostel than you will at a regular hotel. They are not going to stay in $150 a night hotel rooms when they can spend $20 a night at the hostel. It is just not going to happen. Most of the time they are out drinking and partying. They dont want to spend money on expensive hotels.

Now granted you are not going to see many 9s or 10s in the hostel. There are the rare 18 year old gems who are a 9, but don't know it. But, mostly you will see 5s to 8s. If you are after 9s and 10s exclusively then by all means do the hotel game. But, if you are happy to settle for 7 or 8 on a regular basis then hostels are a good bet.

Btw, it's probably worth mentioning that my opinion is based exclusively on European hostels, where the quality of girls in general is good. Even the N American girls you will find at the European hostels are mostly decent. The fatties here will not strap on a backpack and travel around Europe.

[Roosh]

(07-29-2011 11:36 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

If you like the action of hostels then you're not after locals. Might as well in to a summer festival then in your own country. Far cheaper than to go across the world to bang other travellers.

When you stay in a hostel you can get a flag from anywhere in the world EXCEPT the country you're in. Funny how that works.

If you can only stay in hostels and want a flag from Spain, go to a neighboring country like France. If you want a Brazilian flag, try a Buenos Aires hostel.

[thegmanifesto]

"If you stay in a hotel, you are not going to see any hot girls around in the hotel itself."

Possibly the most ridiculous thing ever said on this forum.

For someone who only stays in hostels, you sure must know a lot about the finest hotels of the world to make such a definitive (and false) statement like this.

[ManAbout]

(07-30-2011 09:52 AM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

"If you stay in a hotel, you are not going to see any hot girls around in the hotel itself."

Possibly the most ridiculous thing ever said on this forum.

For someone who only stays in hostels, you sure must know a lot about the finest hotels of the world to make such a definitive (and false) statement like this.

How many people on this forum stay in the "finest hotels in the world"? I am talking about regular mid range hotels that most travellers on this forum would choose over hostels. Sure, you might see a few cuties around, but nothing substantial. You mostly see older business travellers at these hotels, or families with kids. The probability of you seeing a group of Swedish blonde 18-21 year olds is a lot higher at a hostel than your local Hotel Ibis.

[Vicious]

(07-29-2011 10:45 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

You think that the majority of hot 21 year olds from Poland, Czech Repub, Slovakia, Spain, Italy etc. are rich? No way. For every 1 rich hot 21 year old girl you find in a fancy hotel, there will be 10 hot ones at a hostel who are travelling around without daddy's money.

(07-30-2011 09:02 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  

Now granted you are not going to see many 9s or 10s in the hostel. There are the rare 18 year old gems who are a 9, but don't know it. But, mostly you will see 5s to 8s. If you are after 9s and 10s exclusively then by all means do the hotel game.

You seem to be very conflicted about your own beliefs/experiences. I'd settle for pulling out the Hype alert smiley but reading the above I'm wondering whether you're just trolling.

[Gringo]

(07-30-2011 09:11 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

(07-29-2011 11:36 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

If you like the action of hostels then you're not after locals. Might as well in to a summer festival then in your own country. Far cheaper than to go across the world to bang other travellers.

When you stay in a hostel you can get a flag from anywhere in the world EXCEPT the country you're in. Funny how that works.

If you can only stay in hostels and want a flag from Spain, go to a neighboring country like France. If you want a Brazilian flag, try a Buenos Aires hostel.

I diasagree with this. I like hostels, I also like local girls. I manage to combine the two. Going to a festival at home is nothing like being in a hostel when travelling. If I go to a festival here I'll meet people from this country only, if I go to a hostel when I'm travelling I'll meet people from all over the world. I won't be banging anyone apart from people from my home country at a festival in this country.

In my first 2 weeks in Brazil I fucked 2 different Brazilian girls who were staying in the same hostels as me. First one was in a hostel in Buzios, the girl was from Brasilia and in Buzios for the holiday weekend. A week later I fucked a girl from SP who was in Rio for the weekend staying in my hostel. It's possible. I also had access to Swedish, French, Argentinian, Chilean, American, Dutch and many other girls. Staying in a hostel really isn't as bad as it's being made out to be.

[ManAbout]

(07-30-2011 03:25 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

You seem to be very conflicted about your own beliefs/experiences. I'd settle for pulling out the Hype alert smiley but reading the above I'm wondering whether you're just trolling.

How about this, I will change my original statement to say,

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For every 1 rich hot 21 year old girl you find in a fancy hotel, there will be 10 bangable ones at a hostel who are travelling around without daddy's money.

Do you think that's more accurate now?

As for trolling, my advice is probably relevant to 99% of the readers of this forum.

Trolling is if I went on about the types of girls I meet in "the finest hotels of the world." and talked about checking into 500 pound a night hotel suites.

[Roosh]

For guys with weak approach game, hostels are great because of shared common areas where you're forced to meet "bangable" girls. But if your game is tight and you don't like smelly backpackers, a budget motel will make logistics ten times easier without putting a dent in your pocketbook.

I like hostels for general social interaction of people from around the world. But it's not so good to meet women who didn't pack their makeup kit and insist on wearing hiking pants and sandals 24/7.

[Horizonz]

(07-28-2011 07:16 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Horizonz: I've stayed in tons of hostels, and they are usually sausage fests. Sure they are pretty girls, but are you banging them? If so, what's your game? Where do you seal the deal? Dorm or private room? What kind of numbers are you talking (i.e. how many nights in a hostel until you get one of the pretty girls you describe)?

I will say that hostel girls in Europe are ten time better than the ones in South America.

I usually book my hostels at http://www.hostelworld.com and they have a great rating system. I usually try to book hostels with an 85% or above rating. If you want any recommendations I have a list of all the ones I really enjoyed. I am not quite sure where you were staying but most hostels have female only dorms in addition to mixed and they are always booked, so I tend to see a fair amount of girls. But I have stayed in some sausage fest hostels that just sucked. The best thing to do when booking a hostel is to MAKE SURE they have a bar in it. This is where I meet a ton of people and girls come there to mingle before going to clubs because drinks are so cheap. It is also important to remember these girls are in a foreign country and many (not all) are definitely outside of their comfort zone so meeting someone where they are also staying is much safer for them and yes I love to exploit this (they know it's safe with me and they are at least comfortable with the hostel).

I usually stay 3 nights per city and yes I do bang a lot of these girls, pretty much 1 per city. It really varies sometimes the first night we fuck. If I am sensing they don't want to fuck that night I invite them to tour the city with me the next day which just works perfectly. You are with this girl for like 8 hours doing the day and now she knows you and then you get wasted that night and usually I then can bang them. It's all about comfort with these girls and just remember a lot of them have been traveling for months and are also looking for sex. Feel free to ask anymore questions.

Hostels in major cities
*Paris, France- St. Christophers Inn
*Vienna, Austria- Wombats the one near the train station.
*Prague, Czech Republic- HostelOne
*Berlin, Germany- Wombats (only stay here there are so many hot girls)
*Amsterdam, Netherlands- Flying Pig

[Roosh]

I like the tip about having a bar. I didn't think of that.

I will say that South American hostels and European hostels are a whole different world. I kissed more hostel girls in 2 weeks in Spain that I did my first six months in South America.

Besides some exceptions to the hostels in Buenos Aires or Rio, South American hostels are cock farms with pasty, ugly Western chicks. I'll be curious to hear from guys who have done well in South American hostels.

[ManAbout]

(07-31-2011 11:50 AM)Horizonz Wrote:  

It is also important to remember these girls are in a foreign country and many (not all) are definitely outside of their comfort zone so meeting someone where they are also staying is much safer for them and yes I love to exploit this (they know it's safe with me and they are at least comfortable with the hostel).

KEY point. In a hostel you have women that are ready and want to bang available and easily accessible to you. They are travelling, they are away from friends and family. If you are able to build a little bit of comfort quickly, you are in.

It's the difference between having the pussy come to you and going to look for it from some stuck up local girl who is going to make you jump through hoops and give you a hard time for being a potential sex tourist.