[Sidney Crosby]

WTG

(Would "tear gas")

[Zenta]

(05-02-2019 09:45 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  

WTG

(Would "tear gas")

Wowzers

[Foolsgo1d]

(05-02-2019 12:07 PM)BBinger Wrote:  

I sympathize with the Venezolanas who hate where their country has gone, but the problem is not Maduro personally. The problem is democracy. Maduro will likely keep holding on to power to his own surprise and that of everyone else so long as incredible effort is not brought down to remove him. The element of surprise is gone, Guaidó and the CIA failed with their easiest shot.

(05-02-2019 04:04 PM)911 Wrote:  

Maduro's support is eroding due to the economic hardships, at this rate he will probably lose the next elections fair and square, and be ousted without foreign interference beyond the current sanctions. However any military intervention by Yanquis or even by a CIA merc brigade and all bets are off, as it would trigger a nationalist response which would bolster support for Maduro.

I think the neocon bunch in charge is too impulsive to see this, they just can't help it. As well, US policy is going to heavily favor chaos and civil war in Venezuela over a more stable, independent petro-state that is in the Russo-Chinese political orbit, especially now that the US has achieved oil/energy independence.

And this is the reality. Colombians and Brazilians aren't invading jack shit for the US and still the US would be the major power here and nothing less.

This is why they're so hell bent on turning the screws because its worked so well in other countries but only this time their guy is at ground zero! What could possibly go wrong?

The people demanding the US invade can't possibly be where the conflict could start. The country would be destroyed and US soldiers will pay a heavy price.

[Going strong]

As I denounced on this thread several times, Nerves-of-Steel-But-Fat-Belly Maduro is about to destroy the economics and resources of Cuba.

I mean, now ExxonMobil has pressed charges, drawing on Helms-Burton, against CuPet and Cimex. And it' s just the beginning of many very high-potential lawsuits to be implemented against Cuban ports, airports, etc, because of Maduro.

So Maduro is now a negative-value asset for Cuba. He sends no petrol, and is about to ruin the last functional Cuban industries, having spurred the USA into very harsh retaliations against Cuba.

So, well, who is profiting from Maduro surviving? Russia? Not really Russia, as Guaido is willing to respect the existing contracts with Russian oil companies (he would have to, in any case, by law). And anyway, Maduro has not been able to pay back the Russian oil companies, for a long time. He borrows money from Russia, tons of, and does not pay back: a negative asset.

Only Turkey is (marginally) profiting from Maduro, as Venezuelan Chavista mafiosi are diverting tons of gold to Turkey. Plus, the slavic Wagner Group gets a meager fifteen millions bucks from Maduro, but it's peanuts in the grand scheme of things... Anyway, except some Turkish factions, the various State actors involved are not benefiting anymore from the survival of Maduro.

If I had to bet, therefore, I would bet on Maduro getting assassinated by one of his caretakers or bodyguards. By a smart Cuban officer (following orders) or a Wagner mercenary (when time has come and Vladimir Vladimirovich has obtained what he wants in exchange).

So I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the meeting with mister Lavrov is to negotiate what V. Putin wants from the US in exchange for a Wagner mercenary terminating Maduro. Good trade.
And logically, if I were the Cuban president, I would therefore quickly negotiate with the US, to be the first to (secretly) give the order to kill Maduro (before the Russians kill Maduro first).

After all, the first one who kills Maduro, will get huge favors from the USA: food for thoughts.

[CaptainChardonnay]

[CaptainChardonnay]

[911]

Crowder is a pathetic shill, he was exposed by Owen Benjamin, who used to work with him.

Maduro is winning, because he showed a lot of restraint. The coup plotters wanted to bait him into megaslaughter newsreel money shots, but he didn't bite, his troops didn't mow down the crowds and the coup perpetrators.

Crowder is lying here by claiming that "defenseless citizens are getting run over by tanks" or that Maduro is "slaughtering civilians". There's far worse repression of completely peaceful protestors going on every week in Paris, a dozen killed and hundreds maimed, shot in the eyes with plastic bullets, you don't see that on Fox or CNN.

So now according to Crowder, Maduro will be the tyrant that is running over his people with tanks®", same as Assad is the tyrant who is "gassing his own people®", and they'll repeat this mantra ad nauseum in order to nudge the masses to support the next trillion dollar invasion campaign, I mean we can't let those poor people get run over...

The globalists want their money shot psyop that they can plaster all over CNN-Fox-MSNBC (they are exactly on the same page here with people like Crowder) so that they can paint the Maduro government as Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. Last month it was the aid truck they burned themselves, now it's the story of citizens run over by tanks. In fact, no one was seriously injured there, the truck drivers pushed back after the rioters tried to pry their doors and get to them:

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/04/30...rotesters/

Crowder implied this was some kind of horrible mass killing event, saying he couldn't show the video, when in fact no one got seriously hurt. Agressive rioters were playing a cat and mouse game with the armored vehicles, and not getting shot for this. One guy in a white shirt did get bumped aside by the truck, but we see him getting right up in the video.

[Once Was Not]

I saw a video where one of those armored vehicles was covered in flames. It's just like Ukraine. Peaceful Molotov Cocktail throwing protestors brutally oppressed and brutalized by police/military/whatever trying to keep the peace. Intervention now.



This is a different video. The one I saw was from the event where they supposedly ran over people.

Here is another angle of the runover.

[infowarrior1]

(05-07-2019 01:39 PM)911 Wrote:  

Maduro is winning, because he showed a lot of restraint. The coup plotters wanted to bait him into megaslaughter newsreel money shots, but he didn't bite, his troops didn't mow down the crowds and the coup perpetrators.

Snip

Is Maduro actually going to try to fix the economy?

[Going strong]

(05-08-2019 01:47 AM)infowarrior1 Wrote:  

(05-07-2019 01:39 PM)911 Wrote:  

Maduro is winning, because he showed a lot of restraint. The coup plotters wanted to bait him into megaslaughter newsreel money shots, but he didn't bite, his troops didn't mow down the crowds and the coup perpetrators.

Snip

Is Maduro actually going to try to fix the economy?

Poor Maduro can't even fix his helicopter.

I mean, reportedly, the assassination of Maduro by (a faction of) his caretakers, was about to happen just a few days ago. His helicopter was rigged to crash, and it did crash, reportedly killing everyone on board.

But as it is South America, a certain level of amateurism is to be expected: so, reportedly, Maduro noticed a few too many people eagerly recording the chopper with their cellphone, when he was about to climb aboard.

Maduro may be fat and on borrowed time, but he's not stupid, having been trained at a good school on the isla. So, Maduro thought it was suspicious and climbed aboard the spare helicopter. Thus displaying the kind of luck and cunning that kept helicopter-wary Evo alive.

The mustachioed dude will indeed be hard to terminate, one has to give him some grudging respect on that. He's got the honed instincts (and expressionless face) of a heavy seasoned hyena. I bet he does not even eat before someone tastes his meals. Probably has found a way to avoid Lugo-grade radiations too. Sad.

Anyway, I think the best solution would be for the Russians to trade Maduro's life for the satisfactory implementation of the Minsk protocol, or some other deal. Or for the Cubans to trade Maduro for the resuming of oil shipments, duly guaranteed by Guaido-Lopez. Whichever comes first.

Maybe a joint Cuban-Russian/USA agreement, would do. Along the lines of:

we send Maduro to Punta Cana or the Isla Juventud (to keep company to dear Florencia), and in exchange the US kinda normalize the frozen situation in Ukraine, and guarantee enough oil delivered by Guaido to Havana or Cienfuegos. That would be the climax of... the art of the Deal. Everybody happy (including Maduro, who might find peace in the other world).

[Leonard D Neubache]

Lord, if only men in the West were as invested in overthrowing their own evil regimes rather than the ones in far away nations.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Why do we think that offing Maduro makes things better in Venezuela?

[Leonard D Neubache]

Impoverished Venezuelans in a police state under Western hegemony will be a boon for cheap, gameless white men I suppose.

#Priorities

[Going strong]

(05-08-2019 05:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Lord, if only men in the West were as invested in overthrowing their own evil regimes rather than the ones in far away nations.

Overthrowing regimes in the West is impossible. The yellow-vests of which the forum seems to have taken a liking, have zero hope of overthrowing the government. Never had. They have obtained nada and frighten nobody. The Western establishment laughs and keeps on enjoying their total power.

Western governments are so powerfully entrenched, implacable and organized that the mere thought of overthrowing them is a total loss of time.

Western States, some of them, will fall in fifteen years through Haitian-revolt migratory scenarios, there is no point in trying to accelerate or slow this sad fact.

(05-08-2019 06:05 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Impoverished Venezuelans in a police state under Western hegemony will be a boon for cheap, gameless white men I suppose.

Obviously, all very beautiful Venezuelan women have fled long ago. Or are in the process of. Passing through Colombia currently are the almost-cute 5,5s. The cute 6s and 7s have fled years ago.

I mean, to keep beautiful women in a poor country, you need much more (or worse) than a low-intensity ruthless dictator like Maduro. Only the poor and not-beautiful remain stuck: who would game them?

[SamuelBRoberts]

(05-08-2019 04:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

Obviously, all very beautiful Venezuelan women have fled long ago. Or are in the process of. Passing through Colombia currently are the almost-cute 5,5s. The cute 6s and 7s have fled years ago.

I mean, to keep beautiful women in a poor country, you need much more (or worse) than a low-intensity ruthless dictator like Maduro. Only the poor and not-beautiful remain stuck: who would game them?

Dunno about that man, I'm more than willing to let the protester chick at the top of this page seize my means of production, if you know what I mean.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(05-08-2019 06:44 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

...
Overthrowing regimes in the West is impossible. The yellow-vests of which the forum seems to have taken a liking, have zero hope of overthrowing the government. Never had. They have obtained nada and frighten nobody. The Western establishment laughs and keeps on enjoying their total power.

Western governments are so powerfully entrenched, implacable and organized that the mere thought of overthrowing them is a total loss of time.
...

I believe differently. When in your heart you remove your consent to be governed and approach the state as an occupying force that has to be circumvented where practical and resisted where possible then you are contributing to a long process of undermining that thing whose foundations are already seriously shaky.

Did you join in the protests?

If you're upset that the vests didn't overthrow the government in a couple of months while you watched from your couch then you need to either broaden your timeline and sense of participation or simply admit that you're not willing to do anything difficult to remove your collar.

What "mere thought" of Maduro being overthrown do you feel is worthy of your time/energy investment? I'd hate to think you were flag-waving for the globalists merely so you could enjoy a vicarious sense of victory if the globalists won.

[911]

(05-08-2019 06:44 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 05:08 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Lord, if only men in the West were as invested in overthrowing their own evil regimes rather than the ones in far away nations.

Overthrowing regimes in the West is impossible. The yellow-vests of which the forum seems to have taken a liking, have zero hope of overthrowing the government. Never had. They have obtained nada and frighten nobody. The Western establishment laughs and keeps on enjoying their total power.

Western governments are so powerfully entrenched, implacable and organized that the mere thought of overthrowing them is a total loss of time.
...

Pillola nera much, amici Andare Forte?



The GJs are at this point a long game play, and a viable one IMHO, so stay strong, compadre GS!

[Going strong]

(05-08-2019 06:52 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

(05-08-2019 04:36 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

Obviously, all very beautiful Venezuelan women have fled long ago. Or are in the process of. Passing through Colombia currently are the almost-cute 5,5s. The cute 6s and 7s have fled years ago.

I mean, to keep beautiful women in a poor country, you need much more (or worse) than a low-intensity ruthless dictator like Maduro. Only the poor and not-beautiful remain stuck: who would game them?

Dunno about that man, I'm more than willing to let the protester chick at the top of this page seize my means of production, if you know what I mean.

Pointy elbow though! Would Feed first, would bang when elbow's fatter.

(05-08-2019 07:35 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

When in your heart you remove your consent to be governed and approach the state as an occupying force that has to be circumvented where practical and resisted where possible then you are contributing to a long process of undermining that thing whose foundations are already seriously shaky.

(05-08-2019 12:12 PM)911 Wrote:  

The GJs are at this point a long game play, and a viable one IMHO, so stay strong, compadre GS!

Ok, but that's the problem: a long process, a long game. Long as in? Ten years? But mind you, in ten years, in the 3 most "enriched" countries of Western Europe, we'll be at Zimbabwe-Podemos levels. It'll be way too late, supposing it is not too late already for these three countries.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Too late for what?

The elites can't import the Africans so quickly that the normies flip out and even if it takes ten years for the bottom to fall out of consent to be governed, a France (or any other white nation) with even a mere 30% native population left could still easily clear first and second generation "French Africans" out of France.

There are ten year old boys playing soldiers right now who like their ancestors have that unique combination of creativity, discipline, foresight and social cohesion that in the past allowed then to conquer much of the known world and rule popations many times their own size. In ten years they can displace ten times their number of Arabs and Africans but for now it falls to their fathers to place strain on their chains until they break, even if it cuts into their precious porn and video game time.

Why is it that every time someone bitches about the decline of a Western nation I can simply add to the end of their post "at least that is to say, there are no solutions that retain my current levels of comfort and safety".

[nomadbrah]

The great thing about Europe, unlike the US, is that the dynamic which created Europe, is at play again.

That is: "friendly" internal competition.

Each inspires the other.

As iron sharpens iron, so a friend sharpens a friend.

Salvini makes a move, Orban reacts, Sweden Democrats join, Farage gets inspired, Alternative for Germany reluctantly accepts.

The Euro right can take one small step at the time, thus using the slow boiling frog method. Then when one of the nationalist super friends have done something successfully, other countries can say, "hey look at Salvini, we can do that too", then they make a small increment, then Salvini again is inspired.

The US lacks this dynamic.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The irony is that the US is supposed to be something like the EU. A federation of individual states united under a loose federal authority.

The US is what the EU will look like in 50 years time if the EU survives. A federal superstate where member states are selectively targeted for demographic, cultural and financial extermination in line with globalist desires.

[TigerMandingo]

Saw this analysis of America's sociopathic behavior on the world stage.

Quote:

Like, if world politics were a night out at a club, then the US is the guy walking around, table to table, trying to ruin everybody’s night out. Russia’s at the table in the back, making the moves on some juicy strumpet and America is just standing there, pulling his jeans down low to show off his Calvin Klein underwear while flexing his biceps. And he’s got his own earbuds plugged in, pumping his fist to his own song and just giving Russia the ‘roid glare.

Then, when Russia goes to the bar to order another drink, America starts prowling around and finds Venezuela, who is huffing whippits with his buddies. He smacks the balloon out of his hands and says, “fuck your shit, brah” and flashes his Calvin Klein underwear again to assert dominance.

Venezuela is confused and doesn’t know how to reply. He feels inferior to America because he doesn’t wear any underwear at all, let alone Calvin Klein.

So he turns to Russia for advice and help because Russia doesn’t judge people for not wearing trendy underwear (because Russia is chill), and says: “Wear whatever you want, bro. It’s not my place to judge. I still think you’re a cool guy and I’m down to hang out with you whenever. Besides, it’s hot down there and your balls need to breathe. Only cucks wear underwear when you really think about it.”

Reassured and relieved that Russia thinks he’s cool, Venezuela goes back up to America, who is distracted now, yelling at Iran who has his back turned to him, sitting on the barstool. America’s got his hand around Israel’s shoulders (both of them with their shirts off now), and he’s bellowing at Iran for the whole club to hear. “Don’t talk shit about my boy, Israel. We’ll fuck your shit up, homie.”

He exchanges a high-five with Israel and turns around to see Venezuela glowering at him. “Ey, fuck you, pendejo. You’re a gay ass puta and don’t touch my whippits anymore!”

*record scratch*

Yep, is where the situation is right now.

Everyone at the club is getting tired of America’s aggressive and homo-erotic behavior, and just wants to get back to doing whippits and picking up strumpets, and they’re hoping that America just passes out after chugging all that Bud Lite and that the problem resolves itself.

But Israel keeps taking America to the bathroom to do lines of cocaine, and America is getting more and more wired up as the night continues.

Every time that America comes out of the bathroom, the tension escalates.

Russia’s already broken a beer bottle and is holding the bottle shards behind his back while keeping a strained smile on his face. Venezuela is sharpening his machete and Iran is about to pick up the bar stool next to him.

It all depends on what America does next.

[Going strong]

^A funny and sharp analysis above, but, as with all fights, what really matters is who is standing victorious at the end of the day (and at which cost). So, too early to say who has won in Venezuela, or who will win. I've got an idea Maduro himself cannot win this fight on the medium or long-term, as it makes sense that the most powerful player (the USA) would eventually win. But we shall see.

Come to think of it, I still cannot imagine how the US could allow Maduro to escape unscathed, though. That would send a terrible message of weakness, worldwide, signaling to all the (real or perceived) enemies of the US that the world-sheriff has no real military teeth.

So I still think that at some point, God-Emperor will say "F*ck that sh*t, let's terminate Maduro and hear AOC cry", and order a hit (drone?) on the mustachioed wanna-be Stalin. It's just a matter of finding the right casus-belli, which proves difficult . It shouldn't be that difficult though, casus-belli happen, or might, as history showed, be, er, allowed to happen.

[nomadbrah]

"juicy strumpet"

[SamuelBRoberts]

I'm not an AOC fan to say the least, but I'm really not up for assassinating the leaders of other countries "to hear AOC cry."

You know there's nothing really stopping them from drone striking OUR leaders, right? Drones that can carry small packages are like a few hundred bucks and even a failed nation-state like Venezuela has enough resources to get some nasty shit through our completely open southern border. Military people have been talking about this for at least a decade now.

As for sending "terrible messages", I think the real terrible message we need to worry about is the one declaring war on Venezuela would send to people like Bolton: "Rattle your sabers enough and you can get the US to declare war on anybody you want".