Quote: (10-14-2016 08:01 AM)Samseau Wrote:
Quote: (10-14-2016 06:52 AM)Vicious Wrote:
There's two sides of the coin with regard to removing kids from religious fanatics. 20 odd years or so ago I lived with a host family in the southern US that was hard-core first baptist.
Today all of their kids are badly messed up. Daughter in the family shacked up with a black guy deadbeat and bore him two kids to spite her parents. Middle son is an institutionalized petty criminal that keeps going in and out of the joint. Oldest son is a bona fide trailer park meth fiend. Youngest son turned out okayish but is a mirror image of his parents and will likely put his own family through the same religious upbringing and repeat history. I'm convinced that had social services stepped in at any point when they were kids things would have been different, but it's not like anyone comes out on top in these situations. You're either fucked up or less fucked up.
I'm surprised though that RvF is specifically singling out Barnevernet. The families that have been specifically targeted are immigrant families (do you think it would have been the same uproar in MSM had it been natives). Basically families that are very culturally different to what has been considered healthy for the well being according to Norwegian values. I would have thought that was something RvF would get behind.
Where is the trial to decide if the state should keep the children? We aren't seeing due process, why would we support this tyranny?
This is exactly what I was thinking when I watched the videos and questioned whether if there was due process involved or not in a country like Norway.
After looking into this to read a little bit about the Norwegian Child Welfare Services, there is an anti-Barnevernet Facebook page as well as protests back in February of this year. Looks like a lot of families were targeted unfairly by Barnevernet.