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"Women Lose When Men Bumble" - Man the Hell Up
05-05-2016, 09:45 PM
Amazing how with apps like Tinder and Bumble where women wield literally all the power and ultimate decision on which of the 100s of thirsty matches gain access to her majesty they still manage to "lose" to these immature manchildren that just won't buy flowers and man up!
Proof that the more power and ability to choose their mates they have the more miserable they are.
It is funny to see the conversational role reversal with Bumble (in the short time I tried it). Like others mentioned, most girls just don't message their matches and those that do are "hey" "how's it going" - messages they would instantly dismiss on Tinder or OKCupid ("If you can't even put some thought into messaging me, don't even bother, read my profile, I'm special!!!")
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"Women Lose When Men Bumble" - Man the Hell Up
05-06-2016, 04:11 PM
I sometimes wonder what the feminist creators of Bumble think of their creation. They certainly must be aware that, by any objective standard, their dating site is a failure compared to just about any of the others. And I think they must also be aware that one of the reasons for it is that their client base pretty much don't take it seriously, and are masters at ghosting, flaking, and investing the absolute minimum effort.
Obviously they had an agenda in starting the company, but one wonders what it was. Did they really naively belive their own philosophy that women would actually "take control" of the dating market, and that they would evenly distribute their attentions to all suitors? Was the actual intent what has been argued by other members of the forum here is the purpose of feminism - to shut men who aren't in the top tier out of the market and make it a playground for women and alphas? Or some combination?
Because you can't really have a dating app which at least gives the _impression_ that only top tier men get results. You need to pull in the suckers to make payroll.
While we may never know what conclusions they drew form how poorly this app has performed, I think the fact that they're introducing this "BFF" feature and what seems like trying to reorganize the app into a social media / networking platform indicates they must recognize that it was in some sense an ideological failure.
If Bumble survives I predict it will turn into just another social media platform with some "girl power dating" features tacked on. You can have whatever ideology you want, but passivity and attention-whoring pays the bills. Match Inc. at least was smart enough to recognize this.
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"Women Lose When Men Bumble" - Man the Hell Up
05-06-2016, 05:53 PM
^ I think the reason that they are surviving at all is that their core team is very small, maybe eight people IIRC. The coding is outsourced to Romania or something.
It is a good description of most dating sites, but the reason why men (like me!) pound away at Tinder and OKC is that the ability to proactively message gives us a feeling of "agency", even though in many cases it's a false one. The girls who responded to messages only to ghost and flake etc. often makes it feel like a casino slot machine that blinks and beeps a lot but is very reticent at giving up the payout. One might argue that if one wanted to design an online dating site it would be designed to attract specifically this type of female user...as even though I seem to be aware of this analogy, it still pays off enough for me to make it seem a worthwhile way for me to keep plunking in quarters.
I'll probably give Bumble a try at some point, if only for the reason that gamblers know that going to the tables where it looks like all the action is is usually the best way to lose money.