[EDantes]

Ironically most "metalheads" I see today who listen to the likes of Marilyn Manson, Cradle of Filth, and 'extreme metal' in general tend to fall into the camp of nihilistic, wrist slitting, emos.

I'm sure not all metal today has this 'vibe' (I myself wouldn't know because I listen mainly to rock and metal from the 80s and before - like Iron Maiden, Priest, Megadeath, Dokken, Skid Row and others).

Metal may have always had something of an "outcast" chic, but in the past I think metal was associated with more of an outlaw, rebel aesthetic.

While today it's idea of "rebellion" has been watered down into the same camp as the typical emo/goth/social outcast subcultures; something for a bunch of nihilistic, suburban, virginal, millenials to "identify" with in high school just for the sake of negative attention.

Any idea why this is? My only thoughts are that it dates back to the "grunge" genre of the 90s and the entire "alternative rock" schtick which followed, which likely had a big influence on metal as well. The lyrics in a lot of extreme metal are of the same garden variety content as the grunge/pop punk schmaltz too - except we just have some guy screaming or growling about how much he hates himself because his girlfriend dumped him instead of singing about it in a high pitched nasally voice.

Today this is what I think of when I think "metalhead":

[CynicalContrarian]

The kids are spoilt & soft.

Although with Metal, it's not total.

[godfather dust]

I've noticed this as well, punch of emotional pussies with haircuts designed for tumblr.

I'm considered a millennial at 29 but me and some of the other metalheads were the most rowdy, drunk, violent and ignorant motherfuckers at my high school.

I feel like younger millenials need to be considered a new generation they suck so terribly. It's cool less competition but fuck em.

There are only 3 things a metalhead should feel in front of others: anger, hate, and the effects of alcohol and drugs.

[YoungBlade]

It's not. Hence "metalgate", which ousted SJWs pretty quick. Lasted like a month.

While self-loathing can be the topic of many metal songs, most are about pride, overcoming overwhelming odds, and general badassery.

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Check those threads for good modern metal.

http://www.deathmetal.org/

Check that website for more philosophical ramblings on metal.

I think you're thinking of "nu-metal" and its offshoots, as demonstrated by your connecting it to grunge and alt-rock. While certainly there are subgenres that cater to that sort of introspective pity, the vast majority does not have the same spirit.

[Khan]

It didn't.

[Mr. D]

(04-25-2016 10:10 AM)YoungBlade Wrote:  

It's not. Hence "metalgate", which ousted SJWs pretty quick. Lasted like a month.

I remember seeing this rant around that time:

[Aquiles_Baesta_Parada]

The kids who used to live for beer and speed
Now want their fries and coke!


Oh wait, that's punk...

[SamuelBRoberts]

It's the usual nonsense SJW infiltration. I wrote an article on this for Reaxxion, Roosh's video game site, back in the day.

Since I was in high school, I’ve always loved to rock out to Manowar. For those of you who don’t know Manowar, they sing songs about fighting kings, eight-dimensional horses, and most of all: standing as an army against the enemies of metal. While the songs are all awesome, one thing had always bothered me: who the hell are the enemies of metal?

The PMRC has been dead since the mid-90s, and nobody’s heard from Tipper Gore in so long that there’s good odds the guitarist from Cannibal Corpse ate her. Well, almost 30 years after the first attempts to ban heavy metal, a new threat has arisen: pussified losers calling themselves “Social Justice Warriors”, who want to turn heavy metal into a never ending college diversity seminar.

[el mechanico]

Sorry guys metal has always been pussy music. Maybe not as much pussies as now but yup always been.

   

[Vaun]

The 1990's

[TheOllam]

I'd say it was around Crabcore:

[monster]

Yeah, heavy metal in the 80s was pure testosterone:

[YoungBlade]

(04-25-2016 08:06 PM)monster Wrote:  

Yeah, heavy metal in the 80s was pure testosterone:

Allow me a rebuttal:

[Four_Strong_Winds]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4bgXH3sJ2Q&hd=1

[Four_Strong_Winds]

when it's cold, and when it's dark - the moon can obsess you..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWFEZSFDYA&hd=1

[Cattle Rustler]

Dude, when are you going to stop making shitty threads complaining about stuff?

Bust out a datasheet instead.

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Hah, that krab core shit is hilarious.
Heavy metal is for the kids who never wanted to get into industrial metal or death metal. Man, some of that shit I can't even understand due to the heavy bass. There's this one jam where the vocalist makes pig squealing sounds. Does anyone remember what it is?

[Four_Strong_Winds]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmEfOgFO9I&hd=1
robin crosby - died of a heroin overdose, great guitar player... tribute

[Four_Strong_Winds]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIfu5MTebU&hd=1

[General Stalin]

Too much compartmentalization in metal to come to that conclusion.

The crabcore horseshit with the fairies with the comb-over hair and ultra deep V-necks and autotune vocals is for little kids. Of course it's pussy music. the audience is 15 year old scene girls who cut their wrists horizontally.

On the other end of the spectrum you have hardcore which is full of machismo and bro douchebags who drink, do drugs, and fuck scene bitches. The varsity footbal team of heavy music. Nothing pussy about that.

Heavy metal from the 80's dressed like queens sure - most people in the 80's dressed gay as fuck. That said, 80's metal bands were the epitome of Alpha Male. Not giving a fuck, making tons of money, partying and doing whatever they wanted, and fucking tons of girls all the time. I'm not sure if we'll ever see a time for metal like we saw in the 80's.

[eL-JJ]

(04-25-2016 05:47 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

The 1990's

Disagree, it was in the 90's when things got real, glam from the 80's died and death/black metal bands started to rise, dudes went to jail because of that subculture..

But yeah, it may sound a little bit elitist, but unless it's a hardcore, trash, death/black metal show, it's going to be full of pussies (posers).

[Off The Reservation]

The kind of metal you are talking about and also "Nu Metal" are in fact a little pussified.

No need to worry because once you discover the amazing world of currently evolving genres of metal you will no longer have time to notice pussy metal.

Let's get you started:

[hedonist]

(04-25-2016 08:06 PM)monster Wrote:  

Yeah, heavy metal in the 80s was pure testosterone:

Don't think too many people would mess with Jim Gillette these days..

Robin Crosby wasn't a small dude either....

Regardless those dudes would have got an insane amount of tail....Pearcy especially

[pialox]

Heavy metal scene is the perfect storm for pussification and/or SJW take over.

1. 10:1 Male to female ratio at any gig
2. Basement dwellers who spent more time listening to Sabbath than gaming girls.
3. Hog quality scene sluts who can get laid on a constant basis thanks to points 1 and 2. Who are fought over by hordes of beta orbiters.

[Wreckingball]

i don't know what you're listening to, but if you think it's pussy music then surely you're not listening to heavy metal.

There is lots of garbage music that is fast and "heavy" but is not heavy metal. Unfortunately most people cannot see the difference.

[LongDongSilver]

Seems pretty gay in all eras.