Quote: (03-11-2019 07:36 PM)MikeS Wrote:
Quote: (03-11-2019 03:35 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:
You could look at many guys and see the male wall is very far if you take care of yourself. Pharrell, Jason Statham, Hugh Jackman, the rock, David Gandy.
Even if we manage to stay in shape into our 40s and 50s, what's the point in comparing ourselves to celebrities in terms of the women we can get?
I'm still being honest about my age, 42, on Tinder - still in great shape, probably never carried more muscle mass than I do now and only a few kilos away from ~10% body fat (I'm not going to try to claim that my face could pass for ten years younger or something like that though, I take care of myself and do what I can to optimize my looks - including shaving or buzz cutting my balding head since my 20s - but I definitely look older, even if not necessarily worse, than I did five or ten years ago).
And yet even here in (not really so) traditional Eastern Europe, setting my age search range on dating apps below 30 gives me almost no matches, and the rare ones I get lead nowhere, either because I'm low priority or because young women suck at even text conversations (I suspect a little of both).
Meeting younger women through other means often provides significantly more positive initial responses, but mostly I date women in their 30s.
The fact that you're dating ~10 years under your own age is impressive, and I am sure that for a 42 year old man you are in excellent shape....but....
The meme that older men have equal (or even decent) access to women in their 20s is just ridiculous. Especially now that dating apps are emphasizing the most superficial aspects of dating and sex, age is a killer. Unless you live in a country where women need a man to escape poverty, or you've accrued a ton of status with age, no way you're going to have the same success with prime women while in your 40s that you would in your 20s.
Men aren't subject to the kind of decline women are, but the drop off both in attractiveness past the age of ~30 is undeniable for most men- Roosh is an example of a rare exception, imo. Even amongst A list Hollywood men it is really notable. For example, look at the effortless Chad face of young Chris Pratt:
He has every resource imaginable at his disposal now, but all the HGH, botox, fillers etc in the world aren't going to bring that back.
Due to hair loss over the last 18 months, I literally look about 10 years older (went from looking 25 to 35), and while women don't disrespect or entirely ignore me, the flagrant IOIs are simply not there like they used to be. I am with my GF of several years, so it hasn't changed my sex life at all, but the decline in that sense is real and pretty pronounced. On the plus side, in business meetings I am taken more seriously, which has been positive.