[kaotic]

Now I'm not that experienced on traveling but, damn this was an absolute solid comparison. +1 for you man !

[The Lizard of Oz]

(04-15-2016 01:43 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

Instead of the traditional values of loyalty to God, Family and Country ... we live in a world that values individualism and money above all else.

Which has resulted in a severe drought for human connection. ANY human connection. We're not that close to our families and communities anymore. Friends can be discarded and replaced at will. Emotional thirst is the modern day epidemic not sexual thirst.

Which is why a sweet pretty girl-next-door type would blow a guy 10 minutes after meeting him if he can re-create that feeling of warmth and intimacy her family/community would have filled in the past. Same reason why some white-knight beta will pay thousands of dollars for some OK looking Thai bitch just to call her "mine". All these guys know they could fuck a different Cambodian hooker everyday for 3 years with that kind of money.

But sex is not the point here. It's the need to feel loved and wanted. For both sexes. White-knights buck easy and sluts fuck easy for the faintest chance at some emotional connection with someone.

This is confused in a number of ways which are worth clarifying.

First, the idea that girls are constantly "blowing a guy 10 minutes after meeting him" is exaggerated and the sort of thing that you come to believe if you read the 'sphere for too long. Sure, it can happen in clubs and at parties when girls are drunk and/or on drugs; and it can happen with Tinder and other online hookups for some subcultures and class milieus, though usually not with a 10 minute turnaround time. But for the majority of middle class girls and women in the West fellatio within 10 minutes of meeting is very far from the norm, whatever the expeditiousness of porn scenarios or 'sphere fantasies on the subject may suggest.

Second and more importantly: one of the main sources of the white-knighting that is justly deplored in this thread and elsewhere is the gross sentimentalization of female nature and female sexuality by men. And to say that "sluts fuck easy for the faintest chance at some emotional connection with someone" is an example of exactly this kind of sentimentalization. I cringe when I read something like this, just as I cringe every time I see some dude on the forum solemnly declare that a slut or a whore must have been "molested" in her childhood or adolescence to become the slut and whore that she is. Quite a few dentist and stockbroker Daddies, uncles and friends-of-the-family busy "molesting" at all times, it seems, judging by how frequently I encounter such conjectures here and elsewhere.

The reality is simpler, but far more difficult for men to understand: girls and women are sluts mostly because they love to be sluts; they love to fuck and suck cock and they love and worship sexual pleasure, much more than most men do. Normal male sexual desire is easily awakened, but easily satisfied; it also declines with age. Female sexual desire can go unawakened for years but once awakened it is intense, persistent, powerful, not very easily satisfied, and often increases with age. Many girls and women, including the absurdly sentimentalized "sweet pretty girl-next-door types" just ARE sluts; they don't do it because they are deprived of emotional connection or have suffered some repressed childhood trauma. They do it because they want to.

There is no analogy between the white-knight who spends his hard-earned dough on some mediocre Thai schemer, and a normal American girl-next-door who just happens to be a slut. The former really is parting with value in its most literal form -- money -- because he worships and misunderstands women and is driven by a confused mixture of sentimentality and lust that regards validation from the female -- which he thinks of as "love" -- to be life's greatest good.

The American slut is a much simpler creature, she does what she wants because she sees no reason not to. She need not be starved for love and warmth and she could well come from a good family; she may also go on to be a perfectly good mother and passable wife some day. She does what she does not out of any deprivation but because she is the creature of the greatest power and privilege that has ever existed on the face of the earth, served by all, resisted by none, her every step protected, her every whim catered to. The world is her playground.

Men like to imagine that the natural state of women is chastity and they are driven to promiscuity by some untoward forces, whether it's the bogeyman "molester" from the recesses of childhood, or the desperate need for emotional connection, etc. This is simply false. For a great many women, chastity is not their natural state, and they seek its opposite; in secrecy if that is what society or circumstances require, openly if they can get away with it.

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Anabasis, speaking to you personally for a moment if I may: you should reflect on the connection between the gross sentimentalization of women and of female nature and sexuality that animates your post above, and some of the problems with women you've written about in the Game forum and elsewhere. They are intimately connected, and it's well worth your time to think about this at leisure.

[Anabasis to Desta]

(04-15-2016 08:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

First, the idea that girls are constantly "blowing a guy 10 minutes after meeting him" is exaggerated and the sort of thing that you come to believe if you read the 'sphere for too long. Sure, it can happen in clubs and at parties when girls are drunk and/or on drugs; and it can happen with Tinder and other online hookups for some subcultures and class milieus, though usually not with a 10 minute turnaround time. But for the majority of middle class girls and women in the West fellatio within 10 minutes of meeting is very far from the norm, whatever the expeditiousness of porn scenarios or 'sphere fantasies on the subject may suggest.

I never claimed girls are constantly blowing guys in 10 minutes. I mentioned it as an example to emphasize the level of slutiness girls resort to in order to get attention and love from guys they are attracted to.

(04-15-2016 08:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Second and more importantly: one of the main sources of the white-knighting that is justly deplored in this thread and elsewhere is the gross sentimentalization of female nature and female sexuality by men. And to say that "sluts fuck easy for the faintest chance at some emotional connection with someone" is an example of exactly this kind of sentimentalization.
I cringe when I read something like this, just as I cringe every time I see some dude on the forum solemnly declare that a slut or a whore must have been "molested" in her childhood or adolescence to become the slut and whore that she is. Quite a few dentist and stockbroker Daddies, uncles and friends-of-the-family busy "molesting" at all times, it seems, judging by how frequently I encounter such conjectures here and elsewhere.

Having a dentist or stockbroker daddy has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I was not talking about money. I was talking about strong, 2-parent, loving nuclear or extended families who love and support their children. I guarantee you some blonde farmers daughter from Chadron, Nebraska who grew up with 4 siblings, her parents and grandparents nearby is more situated mentally than the daughter of some stockbroker and his trophy wife from Murray Hill.

(04-15-2016 08:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

Many girls and women, including the absurdly sentimentalized "sweet pretty girl-next-door types" just ARE sluts; they don't do it because they are deprived of emotional connection or have suffered some repressed childhood trauma. They do it because they want to.

It is a FACT that daughters of loving families like that are far less likely to cum-guzzling sluts than daughters of dysfunctional households. Sure they might have a slutty phase early in college, right after a breakup or on a weekend in Vegas. But being a slut will never be their Modus Operandi and like you said ... they often turn out to be well adjusted wives and mothers themselves.

All the turbo-sluts i know had some sort of unmet emotional need as children. Overprotective/Helicopter parenting, neglect, absent daddy , abuse ... something. What they often lack is a strong sense of identity.

(04-15-2016 08:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

There is no analogy between the white-knight who spends his hard-earned dough on some mediocre Thai schemer, and a normal American girl-next-door who just happens to be a slut. The former really is parting with value in its most literal form -- money -- because he worships and misunderstands women and is driven by a confused mixture of sentimentality and lust that regards validation from the female -- which he thinks of as "love" -- to be life's greatest good.

There absolutely is.

Taken to the extreme, both white-knighting & sluttyness are pathetic and self-destructive behaviors. Both are rooted in a desperate attempt to feel loved and validated. You will never find a young Sicilian-American girl who grew up with her whole extended family of 25 getting railed by the whole football team. She doesn't need it. An only child of a single-mother whose daddy missed her birthdays? Call in the other team as well.

You will also never see a guy who's got a lot of friends, solid social circle and a good relationship with his family trolling Thailand to sponsor some 6.
It never happens. The guys doing this are without exception very lonely. White-knighting in moderation is natural just as sluttyness is moderation is natural. But there's a big difference between some guy bringing flowers to a date Vs one who pours his earnings and savings into a woman who he only sees a couple of weeks a year. Just how there's a huge difference between a girl who has a ONS once a year and feels bad about it Vs the football team girl i mentioned earlier.

The current rise of white-knighting and slutiness both in numbers and intensity is due to a lack of emotional intimacy.

[Anabasis to Desta]

(04-15-2016 08:42 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

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Anabasis, speaking to you personally for a moment if I may: you should reflect on the connection between the gross sentimentalization of women and of female nature and sexuality that animates your post above, and some of the problems with women you've written about in the Game forum and elsewhere. They are intimately connected, and it's well worth your time to think about this at leisure.

Okay I will.

Thanks LoZ.

[Going strong]

(04-15-2016 09:50 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

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All the turbo-sluts i know

turbo-sluts!


Did you actually invent it, Anabasis? We could use it on the Trump thread too, to denounce the turbo-cucks (turbo-rats? turbo-Rubios?)!
I'll even use it on the Migrants-invasion thread maybe: Europe crisis, when leftist turbo-sluts meet opportunistic rapefugees...

Edit: unfortunately, this word had already been discovered, coined and used, I found it on google:



Edit 2: what kind of world are we living it? There are girls proudly buying "turbo-slut" tee-shirts out there!

[Travesty]

Like LOZ said.

If you don't want your slut runnin'-a-muck best to tie her up so she don't get loose.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-15-2016 09:50 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

...All the turbo-sluts i know had some sort of unmet emotional need as children. Overprotective/Helicopter parenting, neglect, absent daddy , abuse ... something. What they often lack is a strong sense of identity.
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Bullseye. Mostly daddy issues leading to an ingrained desire to emotionally connect with a masculine figure. Sadly, being intellectual and emotional driftwood, they find their way to it in the laziest manner possible. By advertising their sexual availability.