[johnbozzz]

I have already adjusted my screen so there is less blue lighting and more of an orange tint which has lessened the strain. I also have glasses for the computer. Do you guys take supplements? Rest after a certain length of time?
I normally work on a MacBook Pro. Thanks.

[getdownonit]

Flux is great.

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f.lux is a proprietary computer program that adjusts a display's color temperature according to location and time of day. The program was designed to reduce eye strain during night-time use and disruption of sleep patterns.

[MiscBrah]

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[Sombro]

Taking a break every 20 or 30 minutes is good for your eyes, as well as your neck/upper back.
Plus, taking a break and going back to work (or any problem) with fresh eyes (and brain) helps see things anew and get around stumbling blocks.

Back at the cubicle farm they'd make us sit through ergonomic sessions to remind us proper posture at a computer:

[kbell]

Good suggestions in this thread so far. There is a new coating for lens which is either a melanin color (clear skin like color), or an anti-glare blue blocker lens. The second is more expensive but works all of the time the glasses are on. Taking breaks is good as well, I forget to do that. Make sure the screen is bellow your eye level, to prevent the eye drying as fast. The upper eyelid will trap more water in better. If your looking up more eye is exposed and it tends to dry out faster.

[Foolsgo1d]

Holy shit I noticed a difference immediately. Orange-y like looking at a sun set at dusk.

[Gmac]

I've been using flux for years, big help.

[polar]

Good advice above.

Also, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinhole_glasses when you have plenty of light, for computer work or reading a book.

Orange glasses towards bedtime
http://mobile.nytimes.com/blogs/well/201...ep-better/

I use both, both are great for different things.

[roid]

If you wear glasses, use PC lenses like Crizal Preventia.

[Peregrine]

A note about flux: you will hate it at first. You will think, there is no fucking way I could get used to this. That's what I thought the first time I tried it. Promptly uninstalled and forgot about it for about a year. Stick with it for at least a week.

Nowadays, looking at a monitor at night sans flux is like staring into an industrial spotlight. flux probably saved my eyesight.

[Mikan]

I stare at spread sheets all day. At first I didn't take care and my eyes got all messed up. I would sometimes see the hatch marks from Excel burned into my vision when I looked away.

Now at the top of the hour I get up and walk around the exterior of the building, weather permitting. The sunlight is good for both recovering from monitor strain and mental health generally. The movement also helps me keep my energy up. Staring and data all day can be very sleep inducing after 7+ hours of it.

[Easy_C]

Good suggestions. Also try reading glasses or a + prescription. This works byb forcing your eyes to focus for a longer distance than they otherwise would, which Will slow eye strain

[hydrogonian]

I've dealt with a sensitivity to computer and, in general, fluorescent light for roughly 15 years now. It's bad for me, historically speaking. So much so that I have severe eye health issues in that my eyes are a lot harder than the average eyes - if you were to feel them. I even have some premature skin damage around my eyes as a result of the decreased blood flow and inflammation. My primary symptom, after the low level inflammation, is ocular migraines that spread.

I've tried all manner of remedies over the years, from special screens, to screen filters, to special glasses, to Flux (it fucks with my night vision in a bad way, and isn't a complete solution for me in general, but I'm not opposed to it either) to thousands of dollars in supplements. Short of escaping to the mountains to be a hermit, it's all that I could do.

The most consistently effective remedy for me has been supplements. Historically, my top two were Silymarin and N-Acetyl-Glucosamine. NAG works for me for a few days from one pill, but I'm suspicious of it killing pancreatic cells and so I now avoid. Silymarin works well, similar in potency to NAG, but after a long time of taking it I traced some high level anxiety that I developed back to this supplement. I subsequently found a study that links it to bad anxiety. Though, it is one of the strongest supplements that I know of and if I had a major problem linked to inflammation, that nothing else would touch, I'd take it again as a one off remedy. However, none of these things worked very well once a migraine began.

For a time, i was taking Excedrin almost every day to the point where I could taste the medication in my mouth from its general buildup in my blood, and it started to give me a cough. Silymarin got rid of the cough, and I stopped, but I suspect that I may have at least done some liver if not kidney damage from the long term frequent use. Don't make the same mistake that I did if you can help it.

I've recently discovered high dose vitamin B supplementation and that is working well for me. High dose B1 works well for anxiety (500-1500mg 1-3x per day), and a very low dose of B2 (1-10mg) works for migraines even after they begin. It also seems to work for my light sensitivity in general and, while one has to be prudent with some B vitamins such as B2, some of them you can take with a much lower risk side effect profile than most other supplements. I'm also experimenting with high dose Biotin and regular dose niacin. I think that I like the niacin as well, but I will continue to take it and gauge its effect to be sure. I always attempt to take new supplements on their own to properly gauge their effect free from the effects of other supplements.

So, in summary, my primary recommendation, at the moment, is low dose B2. As much as is needed, but no more, is probably prudent. It seems to work at the low dose. B vitamins are generally involved in cellular energy production, and so they are a logical remedy for light sensitivity that generally involves restricted energy production and inflammation in the affected cells. If someone wanted to experiment with others, I would recommend Biotin especially, but also B1 and Niacin. I'm currently attempting to conclude if any of them compete with others for absorption, but haven't yet come to any definitive conclusions. The Ray Peat forum and his associated articles are a good source for b vitamin recommendations and knowledge on cellular energy production. Some people will recommend a complete B vitamin profile, but my experience mostly disagrees with this. I recommend the measured dose, that is right for you, for singular vitamins. To illustrate, b12 and folate seem to exacerbate my issues slightly.

One other thing that works for me is eye "push ups" that one does with a pencil to improve accomodation strength. If you google it, you will find a further explanation.

[CodeNDfk]

^^ I had the same problem for 2yrs. severe Right eye strain that spread to right facial area and temple. I tried some of the supplements you listed but the positive results were temporal.

diagnosis: Cluster headache. my neuro prescribed propranolol and zomitriptan. Both alleviated my symptoms significantly. I changed my glasses months ago and the symptoms disappears whenever I wear them even after I stopped taking the meds.

[hydrogonian]

(03-11-2016 04:49 AM)CodeNDfk Wrote:  

^^ I had the same problem for 2yrs. severe Right eye strain that spread to right facial area and temple. I tried some of the supplements you listed but the positive results were temporal.

diagnosis: Cluster headache. my neuro prescribed propranolol and zomitriptan. Both alleviated my symptoms significantly. I changed my glasses months ago and the symptoms disappears whenever I wear them even after I stopped taking the meds.

That's how my symptoms started sixteen-ish years ago: in the right eye and then to the facial area and temple. It did stay there for a while but spread to the left eye within two years and now, while my right eye is probably worse in terms of vision, the left side is where I commonly feel most of my symptoms when I don't have a migraine. I don't get the facial nerve symptoms as much as I used to. Currently, it's mostly all in my eyes.

Glasses made me worse, unfortunately.

Supplements are a crap-shoot, and none have worked all of the time as of yet. All have come with eventual side effects or a diminishing of effects. The felt effectiveness of eye specific anti-oxidants generally decreases over time for me. Some supplements have held their effectiveness over time better than others.