[kikuyu1]

(07-20-2016 09:57 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

(07-20-2016 04:01 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

Without getting lost in too much detail,todays Jews have much African heritage including personal names.

Actually, when making a statement of such large significance, I'd appreciate it if you'd go into detail.

The link you posted makes some rather bold claims without supporting them. I see this kind of theme in a lot of content which is critical of deep state power structures. I think the purpose of this is to discredit those who seriously research hidden power structures, or to distract people from attempting to understand the big picture.

I'm not accusing you of doing this or anything, and I understand the desire to seek out alternative sources. It's demonstrated to us on a daily basis that our politicians and official academians lie to us so thoroughly, so persistently, that we can safely discard anything they tell us. One of the dangers of this is to latch on to sources that are critical of the historical narrative we've been taught, and ease our demand for evidence for sources that seem to be "on our side". It's through this process that those who wish to throw us off their trail will insert disinformation.

As an example in the link above, it makes the claim that Jews originated in southeast Africa by tying Nimrod to a Cushitic lineage. While it's true that there are supporting details to the idea that some Jewish lineage has Cushitic roots, I think it's rather reckless to use this loose mythological description (Nimrod being the grandson of Ham, where Ham represents the Hamitic (African) language groups) to confidently conclude that the origin of ancient Judeans were southeast African. Cushites are actually east African in origin, not southeast, but that's a minor detail.

There are indeed signs that point to a cultural overlap between areas that the early Jews historically traveled through, though the artifacts seem to point towards a cultural origin further east. There are pyramids deeper into Africa than Egypt, though they appear later: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubian_pyramids

The theory of Egyptian origin for what we collectively label freemasonry actually appears to be the most well researched, and well supported theory that I've seen. There is architecture and symbolism that is absolutely bursting with Egyptian imagery nearly everywhere you look. Just by taking a look at any $1 bill will reveal a seal showing an Egyptian pyramid capped by the eye of Horus, and even a $ sign that represents the Egyptian cadeucus. The Washington monument is a near identical depiction of an Egyptian monolith (representative of a phallus), such as Cleopatra's needle, and it sits within a path depicting a vesica pisces. There are similar links to ancient Egyptian culture in London, Paris, Brussels, Vatican city, and nearly all of them are commissioned by Freemasons or similar esoteric groups.

The links are simply too numerous to list, but for those that are interested, I would highly recommend the following video. It is rather long, so watch it a few parts at a time:

Based on the above, it's well supported that the current power structures of the media, state, and military/intelligence regard ancient Egyptian culture with great significance.

The ancient Egyptian priestly class possessed very ancient knowledge, which they only shared with initiates into their order. They believed in monotheism while preaching polytheism to the rest of the populace, which they despised. In order to undergo initiation into their order, (which many influential Greeks such as Plato, Pythagorus, and Solon underwent) one had to become circumcised to be considered one of them. In short, they were an esoteric system of power which practiced a hidden religion, something which modern Freemasonry could be perfectly described as.

Based on my research though, I believe their origin is of much greater antiquity. Esoteric priestly groups have been associated with the building of ancient monolithic architecture (such as stone henge, the Pyramids, and so on) which are aligned to astronomical phenomena that span many thousands of years. This demonstrates a knowledge of the precession of the equinox (a 25,920 year cycle) that would have required thousands upon thousands of years of observation, extremely advanced technology, or both.

I believe that many aspects of Judaism originate from the influence of the Levite priestly class, which was passed to them during their period of Syrian rule, and further back, from the influences of Zoroastrianism and early Hinduism.

Prior to the 10th century BC, there was no Jewish state, though there was the kingdom of Israel, which was a vassal kingdom of the Persian empire. Judea was a small territory of a minor tribe, and in fact waged conflicts with the kingdom of Israel often. Around the same time period, there's little historical mention of Jews, as we know them today. It is my belief that much of ancient Jewish history was borrowed from the Persians, who were the rulers of the kingdom of Israel for hundreds of years. Only later did Israelites flee to Judea, where they may have created a historical narrative that would create greater cohesion between Judeans and Israelites. There are many similarities in the Torah with historical figures, such as king Solomon most likely describing Syrian king Shalmane-sar, whose name in semetic would have been spelled SLMN.

The Syrians were influenced by the Magi, which were said to have arrived with the Chaldeans in the 2nd millenium BC. The Magi practiced Zoroastrianism, which was a monotheistic religion which shares many similarities and religious accounts with early Judaism. It is here I'd like to suggest that the early Jews likely traced their history from the Syrian, and further back, the Magiaen/Iranian traditions. The Brahmins, whose haplogroup is R1a, is the same as the priestly classes of the Levite Jews, showing a shared DNA lineage.

All of these factors point towards the priestly tradition of the region originating further to the East. The Torah says that Abraham came from Ur of the Chaldees. Note that there are some close similarities between the story of Abraham and the story of Brahma. Abraham had a sister/consort named Sarai, whereas Brahma had a sister/consort named Saraisvati.

Also, in Zoroastrianism and the in the Vedas, they describe a conflict between the Asuras/Ahuras and the Devas. It seems to suggest that the Asuras were the early Israeli Levites which later settled further west. The overemphasis on materialism, and as described in the Vedas, their practice of black magick ultimately created a schism between the Asuras (proto Jews/Magi) and Devas (Brahmin). As Abraham rejected the Brahmin faith, he would have been regarded as A-brahma (not a Brahma), which could have morphed into the name of Abraham over time.

There is additional support for this theory in the link below:
http://www.hyksos.org/index.html?title=Who_Was_Abraham

I'd rather not since I'm still new;we're not supposed to discuss politics and this issue has very deep political significance but since you ask...
Todays Ashkenazi uses African names;specifically the Ga Adangbe people of the Akan confederation.

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Ga-Dangmes Names Hebrew Names

1. Aryeh Aryeh
2 Afra Ofra
3. Otto Yishai
4. Aryelle Aryelle
5. Ofei Ofer
6 Ada Ada
7 Tema Tema
8 Nunu Nun
9 Dodoo Dodo
10 Ashi Ashi
11 Dangme Dan
12. Anan Anan
13. Ga Gad
14. Abe Avraham (Abraham)
15 Sachar (Saka) Sachar
16. Dode (Dodi) Dodi
17. Kadi Kadi
18. Nerle Nerli
19 Ayah Ayah (female)
20 Ayaa Aya (male)
21. Adama Adam
22. Nete Natanel
23. Achimota Achimot

http://www.ghanadot.com/Review.mensah.ga...32111.html

There are over 40 names and many other similarities:
A Ga priest with unleavened flour.



The Assyrians who enslaved them were actually the Fulani of todays W Africa.

[thoughtgypsy]

(07-24-2016 06:53 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

I'd rather not since I'm still new;we're not supposed to discuss politics and this issue has very deep political significance but since you ask...
Todays Ashkenazi uses African names;specifically the Ga Adangbe people of the Akan confederation.

I was merely asking you to provide supporting information for a topic you brought up. I didn't see any explanation for why you believe it has a strong connection to the topic we're discussing. You also made some rather unconventional arguments without backing them up, which I believe only encourages people to view all controversial subjects with doubt.

Indeed, there is some cultural overlap between Judaism and Northeastern Africa. Genetic studies have confirmed a small presence of Cushitic haplogroups in the Ashkenazi genome. However, this is widely recognized, and many are familiar with a Jewish Ethiopian community.

The sources you linked to also contend that this cultural movement originated in Israel and moved to Africa, not vice versa, which is what you seemed to be arguing. Therefore, it supports an Eastern origin.

But either way, I think we're getting further away from the main topic, which is trying to understand the strange symbolism and practices within Hollywood, and if there are any wider connections or significance to society as a whole.

[thoughtgypsy]

Also, I'd encourage those that wish to bring up cold fusion marine life and levitating witches to please provide some kind of credible backing.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary support

[debeguiled]

(07-24-2016 12:52 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

Also, I'd encourage those that wish to bring up cold fusion marine life and levitating witches to please provide some kind of credible backing.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary support

More lost technology. It is in black and white, so it must be true:

[911]

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A Ga priest with unleavened flour.

It would suck to be behind this guy on the TSA line.

[thoughtgypsy]

Getting back to the central theme, let's explore what constitutes "Satanic". This will help us to see if there are any patterns that match with the behavior of what is seen in Hollywood and other elite circles, and if this can help inform us as to their motivations, and for lack of a better word, their system of morality.

When most of us think of this word, we're likely drawing on the conceptual framework of the Judeo Christian tradition. Let's start from there and see if we can make any other connections.

Christianity

Because the concept is most prominent in mainstream Christiniaty, I think this is an appropriate place to begin. Satan is initially depicted as a serpent who seduces Eve. Later he is depicted as a fallen angel who rebelled against God. The name derives from the Hebrew word for adversary, though the concept has taken on other names such as devil, and later, lucifer.

Lucifer was treated as a substitute for satan beginning with the KJV of the Bible. The KJV was completed in the early 17th century, and many researchers believe that it was overseen by prominent English Rosicrucian (freemasonry institutional fore-runner) Francis Bacon. Indeed, some prominent freemasons make allusions to this notion:

Manly P. Hall, 33º Wrote:

Rosicrucian and Masonic Origins, 1929: The first edition of the King James Bible, which was edited by Francis Bacon and prepared under Masonic supervision, bears more Mason's marks than the Cathedral of Strasburg.

The name lucifer stemmed from the original translation of the Hebrew heylel into the Latin lucifer in the 4th century by St. Jerome. The equating of satan with lucifer may be in error, as the passage in Isaiah 14:1-23 alludes to an earlier Canaanite myth. The association with lucifer as a fallen angel seems to derive from the Canaanite Attar, who attempted to ascend to Baal's throne, but failed and was forced to descend into the underworld. This myth was an allegory for the motion of Venus, rising and descending from the horizon during the night. Both the Venus and the Moon are regarded as feminine aspects, and often equated to each other. The significance of the Venus or Moon as light bringers has parallels in Roman, Canaanite, and Babylonian mythology, suggesting an earlier cultural transmission. Venus is the equivalent of Astarte/Ishtar in the Babylonian pantheon. Ishtar's worship has been recorded as early as 3500BC. Therefore, the association of lucifer with satan seems to be in error.

However, the use of devil (from Greek diabolos, opposer) seems consistent, and it would be fair to treat devil and satan as equivalent. In Christianity, satan is said to be "of this world", or the "ruler of this world". His temptation of Jesus in the bible suggests that he represents the selfish material aspects of this world, including the hedonistic temptations that lead us away from spirituality and selflessness.

We know that Christianity was an offshoot of Judaism during the late Second Temple period, so we should also explore it's use in the Judaic tradition to find it's origin.

Judaism

Hebrew: שָּׂטָן‎‎ satan, meaning "enemy" or "adversary";[1] Arabic: شيطان‎‎ shaitan, meaning; "astray", "distant", or sometimes "devil"

What's interesting to note is that in the Torah, the word is invoked most often for those (nations or people) who are enemies of Israel, meaning they likely did not tie religious meaning to the word. In other words, the Philistines could be depicted as the satan (adversary) of Israel, and Israel could be considered the satan (adversary) of the Philistines. Source: 32 Numbers 22:22, 1 Samuel 29:4, 2 Samuel 19:22, 1 Kings 5:4, 1 Kings 11:14, 1 Kings 11:23

However, the concept of satan within the Judeo Christian tradition has undergone various changes throughout it's history, so we must attempt to discern where these changes occurred.

In the current tradition of Hasidic Judaism, it appears that satan is actually regarded as a benevolent entity. They regard him as agent of god who tempts one into sin, and allows one to better themselves by overcoming their weaknesses. This appears to be the culmination of a long trend within Rabbinic Judaism, where over time the concept of satan is regarded as progressively more benign.

In it's earliest forms, Enochic Judaism quite explicitly considered satan to be an opponent of God who was cast out of heaven. During the period of Rabbinic Judaism, particularly during Medieval period, this depiction was gradually rooted out, and rejected any belief in fallen angels, accepting evil as an abstract rather than metaphysical quality.

One should note that Rabbinic Judaism, based around the Talmud, substantially changed the overall message of Judaism from it's earlier narrative. Rabbinic Judaism commanded that the Rabbi priestly class be the authoritative source of godly wisdom. The Cohanim were regarded as the chief priestly class, though I believe this was to draw attention away from the Levite priestly class, whose belief system eventually gained prominence over the entire community. I believe that the Levites were not native Judaeans, and came into early Hebrew society from elsewhere.

There is no historic records of a Jewish people prior to the 10th century BC, and historic and archaeological records suggest there is no historic basis for a united Kingdom of Israel as depicted in the Bible. It's much more likely that Israel was an independent kingdom which often waged war with Judea, one of which was likely a territory under the Assyrian empire.

Prior to the 10th century BC, the early Judaeans would have likely adopted their religious narrative from a combination of regional cultures. The Enochic period concept of good vs. evil appears to come from the Zoroastrian Magi, and the narrative of the exodus from Egypt may have come from the Hyksos. It's also interesting to note the similarity between the 10 commandments and sections of the Egyptian book of the dead. Let us see if there are any similarities to the concept of satan in either of the two.

Ancient Egyptian Religion

1st century AD Jewish historian Josephus Flavius attests that the Hyksos were a people that settled in Egypt around the land of Goshen and became it's rulers during the 15th dynasty. They were ousted around the 16th century BC, when they settled in Jerusalem. Through this period, aspects of the Egyptian religion may have passed to those who later settled in Jerusalem.

The Egyptian religion centered around the figures of Isis, Osiris, Set, and Horus. Isis and Osiris were both siblings and lovers, and Osiris ruled over the heavens. Out of jealousy, Osiris' brother Set killed him, and cut his body into pieces. Later, Isis was gathered his pieces (except for his phallus, which she was forced to construct a golden one), and reincarnated him so that she could conceive and birth Horus. Horus, son of god, then defeats Set and restores order to the world.

It is here that Set has obvious similarities with the Judeo Christian satan, as Set is the usurper of the throne, the adversary of Osiris, the rightful ruler of the heavens. His ambitions for attaining the throne may have symbolized selfishness, vice, and a desire for material power. The term satan may have derived from set, or a conflation of set and anubis (Set An). Initially, Set didn't have a deeply negative connotation. The figures were allegorical representations of phenomena in the heavens. Isis was symbolic of Sirius, Osiris of the constellation of Orion, Horus as the rising sun (Hor izon), and Set as the setting sun (Sun Set).

I've also read theories that suggest Set may have also been associated with Saturn. Etruscan mythology, the forerunner to Roman mythology mentions the god Satre, who resided deep within the Earth. Satre later became Saturn, the equivalent of Cronus in Greek mythology. Cronus was regarded as having overthrown his father, and eaten his children (except for Zeus). The astrological symbol for Cronus/Saturn includes a scythe/sickle and Cronus was considered the god of time. Thus, he may be the early personification of the Grim Reaper in popular culture.

While the Saturn/Cronus mythology arose much later than the Osiris myth, it is possible that it's origin was much earlier. The Etruscan artifact which paid homage to the god of Satre was discovered in Ptolemaic Egypt. Ptolemy was a famous Greek who was known to have been initiated into the secret order of the Egyptian priesthood. During his time in their tutelage, he would have gained secret knowledge that may have been of great antiquity.

Considering all of the above, there don't appear to be many connections between the behavior of so called modern day "satanic" cults and the origin for the satanic (set) mythology. Therefore, while we may view their behavior as satanic from our point of view based on our idea of satanism, it may actually be a diversion from attempting to discover where they draw their mythology from.

The symbols that we often ascribe to satanism, such as the upside down pentagram, are actually associated with the practice of black magic, and derive their origin further eastward, and further back in time. To explore that thread further will require researching the Zoroastrian Magi, and following that thread even further.

[LeoneVolpe]

The occult symbolism doesn't end with TV/movies, it's also in video games as well. Have any of you guys played "L.A. Noire"? I bought it several years back, played through the whole game and never noticed anything strange. The other day I had some time to kill, so I decided I would revisit "L.A. Noire" and it didn't take long before I saw something that caught my attention...

During the opening credits sequence, an undeniable all-seeing "Eye of Providence" can be seen on the side of the pyramid that sits atop the Los Angeles Public Library.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites...l-library/

The library as seen in the game:

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The library as seen in real life:

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In a much more blatant example, I've also started getting into the "Assassin's Creed" series recently, which as I'm sure many of you know, is filled with references to the Knights Templar, freemasons, etc.

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I used to think all the Illuminati talk was bullshit, but once you know what symbols to look out for, you start seeing them everywhere. Perhaps it's just confirmation bias at work, but this kind of stuff seems to pop up with such frequency it's hard to imagine there not being some conscious push to include such symbolism in our entertainment media.

Not to worry, my tin-foil hat should arrive in 2-to-3 business days.

[CactusCat589]

I've always thought the reason they're spreading the symbols is as an expression of insecurity. They know they can't claim heritage to the Bavarian Illuminati or the original Rosicrucians or Freemasons, so they have to spam and proliferate them in media.

What do you guys think?

[nomadbrah]

Free masons are not important anymore, neither are Illuminati. The freemasons were mainly Christian heretic thinkers trying to revive the knowledge of antiquity. Since they lived in a world were the church everything and they themselves likely had the bible beaten into them, they didn't go straight from christianity to atheism, but they stopped around Deist beliefs, that of the creator god of the universe, the initial spark, put the rules in place and then didn't interfere. That was a heretic belief, but it is easy to see how it is more palpable to curious scientific minds who none the less feel religious.

In addition, if you as the freemasons then think that god does not interere in the physical world, then what does that make of the god of the Old Testament with his emotional wrath? You guessed it, a false god, an imposter, the Rex Mundi.

This is the spiritual base of the freemasons, Thomas Jefferson being a great example, viewing Jesus Christ as the great moral teacher, but not the son of God.

As freemasonry grew among would be scientists and influential thinkers, they became powerful as a network of peers and influential people. As freemasonry was in origin Christian, European jews were not invited. That was countered by the creation of the Illuminati by Adam Weishaupt, supposedly a jew (Churchill believed so), and from freemasonry he recruited into Illuminati and somehow managed to make Illuminati gain control of the freemasonry movement (likely nepotism and bribing like always).

The Illuminati then proceeded to lead that 'Liberty, Equality, Fraternity' (sound familiar?) movement known as the French Revolution which desposed of nobility in the favor of moneyed burgeoise (guess who).

Well, at least it was the common impression among royalty that the Illuminatti was behind it, something found in many contemporary sources from the time.

The Illuminati does not exist anymore, to the degree it exists now, it is a diversion, a smokescreen. The real Illuminati is the think tanks and recruitment agencies used by the elite such as the Council on Foreign Relations, The Economist, Foreign Affairs, National Policy Institute, Bilderberger, World Economic Forum and so on.

If you're a talented academic you're recruited by McKinsey or recruited from university into for example the Council on Foreign Relations, from here you write analysis on topics for the globalist elite viewpoints. From there you will know whatever you do, they will have your back. You're invited to Bilderberger, suddenly press coverage gets better.

There's no need for secrecy outside hiding their sexual perversions and such, the people who were the Illuminati are not hiding, they're the establishment, we are the ones who hide and whisper and use coded language.

[nomadbrah]

^ In addition to the above, I don't deny someone at the top have these inclinations for the occult. The Supreme Court of Israel built by the Rothschild for example has obvious Masonic symbolism. The same with the Georgia Guidestones and the Denver Airport murials. I just don't think it is meaningful as a means of control. I doubt there are elites meeting under these circumstances?

I also think most of the Illuminati symbolism might be Kabballah and Hasidic sthetl philosophy, since socialism is essentially sthetl lifestyle applied and Kabballah has a lot of occult.

[kikuyu1]

(07-24-2016 09:47 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

(07-24-2016 06:53 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

I'd rather not since I'm still new;we're not supposed to discuss politics and this issue has very deep political significance but since you ask...
Todays Ashkenazi uses African names;specifically the Ga Adangbe people of the Akan confederation.

I was merely asking you to provide supporting information for a topic you brought up. I didn't see any explanation for why you believe it has a strong connection to the topic we're discussing. You also made some rather unconventional arguments without backing them up, which I believe only encourages people to view all controversial subjects with doubt.

Indeed, there is some cultural overlap between Judaism and Northeastern Africa. Genetic studies have confirmed a small presence of Cushitic haplogroups in the Ashkenazi genome. However, this is widely recognized, and many are familiar with a Jewish Ethiopian community.

The sources you linked to also contend that this cultural movement originated in Israel and moved to Africa, not vice versa, which is what you seemed to be arguing. Therefore, it supports an Eastern origin.

But either way, I think we're getting further away from the main topic, which is trying to understand the strange symbolism and practices within Hollywood, and if there are any wider connections or significance to society as a whole.

Rule 4 says 4.

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No race or political baiting. It's okay to talk about race if that's the topic, but no geo-political discussions on why one race is superior or inferior to another or why an upcoming race war in X country will be bad. Newbies under 250 posts are not allowed to participate in race or political discussions.

I'm still too new to go there. The topic involves BOTH RACE & POLITICS. When I have enough posts I'll reveal the linguistic,craniofacial,dental analyses and contemporary accounts of the Original Hebrew Israelites. The thing with dna studies they can be subtly camouflaged depending on the researchers slant,eg haplogroup nomenclature itself is often misleading,especially to newbies.

[thoughtgypsy]

In continuing the theme that ancient societies possessed considerable knowledge of astronomy and the universe, I'd like to share some concepts that I believe will be unfamiliar to many, but hopefully fascinating. These concepts are used quite often within esoteric societies, and it is often encoded in the architecture built by the priestly classes throughout the ages.

Concepts that will be useful for further study include:
- Platonic solids (Solids which form perfect geometric volumes using only their own shapes)
- Golden ratio (phi) and pi: Irrational numbers which are encoded in the universe in biology and astronomy
- Symmetry of patterns in time and space: Moon having a radius of 1080 miles, moon being 108 times it's own diameter distant from Earth; Sun being 108 times it's own diameter distant from earth; 1080 years being 1/24 the cycle of the precession of the equinox, etc.
- Prime numbers, fibonacci numbers, and Chaldean numerology (i.e. 18+37=55, 5+5=10, 1+0= 1; 18 and 37 combined represent 1)

Platonic solids, Space and Time

As I mentioned before, platonic solids are solids which form perfect geometric volumes using only their own shapes when placed edge to edge against each other. While they may not naturally occur in nature, they encode emergent properties of time and space. By adding the total degrees of the angles formed by these solids, we arrive at the numbers

Tetrahedron - 720
Octahedron - 1440
Cube - 2160
Icosahedron - 3600
Dodecahedron - 6480



What's interesting is that these values represent divisions of the precession of the equinox, or the rotation of the orientation of earth's axis over a period of 25,920 years.

25920 / 720 = 36
25920 / 1440 = 18
25920 / 2160 = 12 (2160 years is also the length of one astrological age, such as the age of pisces)
25920 / 3600 = 7.2 (72 years is equivalent to 1 degree of precession in a 360 degree cycle)
25920 / 6480 = 4

They're also related to the size of astronomical bodies in our solar system







It's interesting to note that both the Sun and Moon are 108 times their diameter in distance from the Earth. One should also note that the Moon is 400 times closer to the Earth than the Sun, and the Sun is 400 times bigger than the Moon. This rather amazing coincidence allows for phenomena like the Solar eclipse.



The symmetry of both Time and Space are encoded within the size and shape of the Great Pyramid of Giza.



When scaling the shape of the Great Pyramid of Giza so that the base of the Pyramid is equal in length to the Earth's diameter, it encodes the sizes of the Earth and the Moon. If the Earth and Moon were placed against each other, the peak of the Great Pyramid, when scaled up, would sit at the center of the Moon. The square that the Earth would be encompassed by would have the same perimeter length as the circle passing through the Moon's center.



There is a similar relationship between the square and circle formed by the proportions of the Human body.



There are many more examples of this, and I would encourage those who are interested to explore the topic further. Many esoteric societies believe that this ancient knowledge should be hidden from the "profane masses" (i.e. the uninitiated), but this knowledge is part of our cultural heritage, and helps us appreciate the beauty of our universe.

[CookieDough]

^ I am studying a STEM subject and had an exam today. This really triggered me. Thank you.

[thoughtgypsy]

Important questions to ask regarding these esoteric societies is where do they originate, what are their goals, and what is their moral framework. First, we must recognize that there are numerous esoteric societies throughout history. Further back in time, they represented the priestly orders, though more recently they've often been associated with sectarian groups.

Many are familiar with the the Illuminati, which branched off from the Freemasons in 1776, or perhaps know of the Knights Templar which have all been popularized among many "conspiracy theorist" circles, and appeared in pop culture. These are perhaps the most visible groups, though there have been many more throughout history.

There have also been the Priory du Sion, which branched off with the Order of the Knights Templar during the splitting of the Elm in 1188. In Europe there have also been the Rosicrucians, and further back the Ptolemaic schools, whose knowledge came from the Egyptian priestly order. I believe that occult orders are not exclusive to Europe, and that Vajrayana Buddhism (White Brotherhood) and perhaps the Heaven and Earth Society in China.

For those who wish to learn more about the history of some of these societies, I'd recommend the book Mysteria, which provides a fairly comprehensive survey on some of the more notable orders: http://www.themasonictrowel.com/ebooks/f...eb0213.pdf

Their origins go back at least to ancient Egypt, as I've extensively illustrated in the documentary I posted on the previously page. In addition to the Egyptian priests, there were other occult priestly classes in the Levant region. The early Hebrew priestly Levite class derived their rites from the Zoroastrian Magi, who regarded their tradition of Magick as coming from the Chaldaeans. One should note that a commonality between the Levites, the Zoroastrians, and the Egyptian priestly class was a belief in monotheism. The Egyptian priests and Levites also shared the practice of circumcision.

The reader might also find it interesting to note that many words for high ranking officials derive their origin from the words Magi and Magick. To name just a few: Your majesty, magistrate, magnate, and so on. While they performed and believed in various rituals which I'll get to in later posts, the word magick was also use to describe the practice of employing deception and artifice against their adversaries. Arthur C. Clarke explains:

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It is believed that the Chaldaeans arrived in the Levant region around the 11th century BC, however their traditions tell of the struggle between two opposing forces, the Ahuras and the Daevas. What is remarkable about this detail is it bears a striking resemblance to the the factions described in the Vedic tradition, the Asuras and the Devas. The Vedas greatly predates the Zoroastrian tradition, and it is likely that the Zoroastrians were among the branches of the Asuras who broke off from Vedic society.

If we are to take seriously the accounts of the Zoroastrians and Brahmins, the Ahuras/Asuras and Daevas/Devas were clearly adversaries. The Vedas describes an early period of harmony between the two groups, and a later schism between the Asuras and the Devas, with the Asuras moving westward following a period of geological upheaval. Indeed, geology confirms the drying up of a major river in Northwestern India, giving further credence to the historical accuracy of these ancient accounts.

It is also probable that the ancient Egyptians derived their religion from Indic society through the Mittani royalty of the Hurrians. There is a white paper available which extensively documents supporting details of this theory through archaeology, linguistics, religion, and historical accounts (H/T The_Truth):
http://www.ece.lsu.edu/kak/Akhenaten.pdf

Astronomical phenomena described within the Vedas place the origin of it's tradition at 4000BC at the very latest. Considering the level of advancement of the Vedic tradition, it is likely it is of much greater antiquity. This would place the Vedic tradition as being older than any currently recognized civilization. The discovery of the ruins of an ancient city in the Gulf of Cambay whose artifacts date older than 7000BC give further evidence in support of this theory.

Therefore, we should draw our attention to the schism between the Asuras and Devas, and what differences of belief led to such an important rift between the two communities.

[kikuyu1]

Returning to the original question of the thread title-looking at the background of many of the Hollywood handlers,definitely mind control is used associated with Satanism and pedophilia.

Dr.Antony Kidman,a psychiatrist,Nicole's dad was one of the faceless programmers intricately involved in very very dark shit back in Oz.

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Another strange Kidman connection to Satanism is the woman who brought Nicole to international Fame. It was Liz Mullinar who is credited with Nicole’s international success and she is the founder of Heal for Life, Australia’s leading Satanic Ritual Abuse clinic, where there have been reports that Satanic Cult members have been employed. Mullinar was a victim of a peadophile ring and alleges her Church of England father was responsible.

http://www.mcmurrayreport.com/2015/12/29...omment-358

He was connected with child torture techniques and top CIA shrink Dr.John W Gittinger. Dr.Kidman was named in 2014 as being a major player in an Aussie child sex Satanic ring when he took off for Singapore,where he allegedly died of a heart attack.

[thoughtgypsy]

I'd like to take this time to share the remarkable level of advancement of pre-schism Vedic society. They were capable of predicting astronomical phenomena over time spans of thousands of years, a feat that western society was not capable of until very recently. This capability involved the employment of esoteric knowledge that was passed down through generations among the Brahmins.

I've already illustrated the remarkable symmetrical relationship between time cycles and the size and distances of astronomical bodies in the solar system. In a previous post I illustrated that the radius of the Sun is 432,000 miles and the diameter is 864,000 miles.

On a side note, consider that the Great Pyramid of Giza encodes the radius of the Sun in it's dimensions, as it is 1/43,200 the circumference of the Earth, and it's size represents 1/43,200 the rotational cycle the earth travels in one day.

There are similar patterns in Hindu cosmology. The time scales in the Vedas are different than what we're familiar in Western society. However, some time spans are of interest.

1,000 + 100 + 100 = 1,200 divine years (= 432,000 human years) = 1 Kali Yuga
2,000 + 200 + 200 = 2,400 divine years (= 864,000 human years) = 1 Dvāpara Yuga

Note that these Yugas (ages) encode the radius and diameter of the sun (432,000 miles and 864,000 miles).

Let's discuss Hindu time cycles for a moment:

"Long regarded as non-astronomical by historians of science, Hindu cosmological time cycles are shown here to be the most accurate solar calendar known, the progenitor of the sexagesimal number system and the 360 + 5 day calendars of antiquity, and one of the greatest achievements of humanity.

Hindu cosmological time cycles, as well as common units of measuring time and angles, are generated from the concept that the Sun has three distinct mean motions which work together like the hour, minute and second hands of a clock. The exact sidereal solar year of 365.2563795 mean solar days, constant of precession of 50".4 and week of precessional years of 180,000 sidereal solar years used in the construction of the cycles may be inferred from their infrastructure. With the astronomical quantities known, the kaliyuga epoch of February 18, 3102 B.C. of the Julian calendar establishes the summer solstice as the initial tropical point of the cycles, 147108 B.C. as the beginning of the current week of precessional years and closely approximates the fixed initial point of the sidereal sphere given in the SuryaSiddhanta commentary.

Not only does the astronomical basis of the cycles conclusively prove the non-Greek origin and ancient age of Indian astronomical science, but the extremely high level of astronomical knowledge used and method of construction of the cycles cannot be placed in any known historical frame of reference. The implications of these findings for mankind are, therefore, very far-reaching."

For a discussion of the mechanics of Hindu time cycles and their remarkable accuracy, I recommend reading the following website:
http://westgatehouse.com/cycles.html

"How could such an accurate constant of precession, as that of Hindu cosmological time cycles, have been obtained without modern instruments and techniques? Certainly, at the very least, we must allow for a very long period of observation.

It appears possible to make naked-eye observations on the celestial sphere with an accuracy of 1/6 degree. If the precession were a point moving uniformly on the celestial sphere, it would then be just possible to determine the constant of precession to an accuracy of three places of decimals in not less than 50°(72 years/1°) = 3600 years.

Unfortunately, measuring the constant of precession is not so simple. To start off, times of the equinoxes must be very accurately observed. Ptolemy speaks with pride in The Almagest of "very accurately" observing the equinox to within a quarter of a day, that is, to within at best one quarter of a degree of arc. To this difficulty we must add the proper motions of the stars. The star Sirius, for example, would have been an extremely unfortunate choice for a point from which to measure motions on the celestial sphere because of its large proper motion of -0".553 ecliptic longitude per year. But it would take 1000 years for Sirius to move 1/6 degree and for this mistake to become sensible to a naked-eye observer. We add on, that in such a protracted interval of observation the motion of the Earth's perihelion would become sensible and have to be accounted for. In short, it is difficult to imagine the resolution of these difficulties to produce a constant of precession accurate to three places of decimals in less than 10000 years of continuous naked-eye observations.

Similar arguments might be adduced to show that to measure the sidereal period of the Sun to eight places of decimals could be accomplished by naked-eye observations alone in hardly less time.

Our minds, already totally unable to comprehend how an undertaking of such magnitude could be accomplished, must still face the incredible genius of the cycles themselves: a calendar for eternity so accurate that its formulations must be seriously considered as laws of nature, while at the same time a structure so simple, symmetrical, and orderly, that the best astronomers of modern times have heretofore completely failed to see the astronomical basis. It is hardly to be wondered that Hindus have regarded the cosmological time cycles as a revelation from the gods.

The peoples who used the 360 day year were always the most advanced civilizations. But the astronomy of these peoples, by all the available evidence, was in every case vastly inferior to the astronomical science which made possible the development of Hindu cosmological time cycles. The time cycles must, therefore, have been created by a civilization which flourished before the time of these historical civilizations and bequeathed its science to the Hindus, Chinese, fertile crescent civilizations, Egyptians, and Mayas alike. Primary traces of this ancestral culture are the sexagesimal number system and the 360 + 5 day calendar.

By the epochs preserved within the time cycles themselves as well as by extensive references throughout Sanskrit literature, the cosmological time cycles appear to be older even than Hindu civilization. Nevertheless, because Hindus are the only people to have preserved the exact dimensions of the cycles and maintained the tradition of their astronomical basis by including them in their textbooks on astronomy as well as in their vast literature, it is clear that Hindu astronomy is in the direct lineage of the astronomical system of the creators of the cycles and not "borrowed" from the astronomy of another people.

No other historical or existing people claims or has any claim on the cosmological time cycles. It is in this sense that we call them the "Hindu cosmological time cycles"."

Hindu cosmology predicts that we are currently in the Kali Yuga age. During this era, they predict that human civilization degenerates spiritually, and people turn away from God, preferring hedonism, material power, and wealth over spiritual harmony. This era is believed to have started over 5000 years ago.

Further, as late as 6000 years ago, the following was predicted about the current age we live in:

A discourse by Markandeya in the Mahabharata identifies some of the attributes of Kali Yuga. In relation to rulers, it lists:
- Rulers will become unreasonable: they will levy taxes unfairly.
- Rulers will no longer see it as their duty to promote spirituality, or to protect their subjects: they will become a danger to the world.
- People will start migrating, seeking countries where wheat and barley form the staple food source.
- "At the end of Kali-yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respectable gentlemen of the three higher varnas [guna or temperament] and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the supreme chastiser." (Srimad-Bhagavatam (2.7)

With regard to human relationships, Markandeya's discourse says:
- Avarice and wrath will be common. Humans will openly display animosity towards each other. Ignorance of dharma will occur.
- People will have thoughts of murder with no justification and will see nothing wrong in that.
- Lust will be viewed as socially acceptable and sexual intercourse will be seen as the central requirement of life.
- Sin will increase exponentially, while virtue will fade and cease to flourish.
- People will take vows and break them soon after.
- People will become addicted to intoxicating drinks and drugs.
- Gurus will no longer be respected and their students will attempt to injure them.
- Their teachings will be insulted, and followers of Kama [desire] will wrest control of the mind from all human beings.
- Brahmans [priests/teachers] will not be learned or honored, Kshatriyas [soldiers] will not be brave, Vaishyas [merchants/traders] will not be just in their dealings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

[thoughtgypsy]

Why do we see a recurring pattern of twin/two towers throughout history and in pop culture, and what do they represent?



Solomon's Temple



Luxor Temple



Kaaba



Chartes Cathedral



Notre Dame



New York City



First, let's look at a general Masonic tracing board.



Note the similarities to the above architectural styles. The tracing board is dominated by two pillars, the left of which represents the Sun, and the right of which represents the Moon. There are also three candles between them, which are often reflected in the 3 entranceways common in cathedrals.

What these pillars actually represent are Strength (the left hand path), and Beauty (the right hand path). The left hand path is associated with earthly power, materialism, selfishness, deception, and severity. The right hand path is associated with spirituality, altruism, truth, and wisdom. The middle path, or synthesis, represents the central gateway for the two opposing forces to compete. The middle also represents the human realm, where our senses (chakras) are influenced by each side.

(To be continued)

[thoughtgypsy]

(Continued from previous post)

Overlaying the Kabala tree of life over the tracing board helps to reveal this concept further:



Let's take a closer look at the tree of life:



This image is perhaps as euphemistic as they come, as the left hand path is generally associated with the concept where the ends justify the means, might makes right, or simply "do as thou wilt". This helps to illustrate that those who associate with the left hand path identify with what we generally consider to be negative, perhaps even evil qualities.

By giving greater prominence to one pillar over the over reveals which qualities they wish to take priority in the coming age.

The NYC WTC towers were built to the exact proportions of the Boaz and Jachin pillars in the original Temple of Solomon. They were precisely 33 times larger. Note that 33 is an important number in Scottish Rite Freemasonry, representing the highest known degree an initiate may obtain.



However, the left tower (strength/severity) was constructed to be slightly taller than the right tower, suggesting that is the quality which was to be prioritized in the coming age.

I previously included an image of the pillars at the temple of Luxor. What's interesting is that Napolean, a known freemason went through great effort to bring his troops to Egypt and remove the right pillar to Paris. He allowed the left pillar to remain.



The removal, or destruction of the towers represents opening a gateway and allowing certain qualities to manifest in the next age based on the date and time of the destruction.

Following the destruction of the towers of Boaz and Jachin, the synthesis of the two opposing forces under the qualities that were present during the time of their destruction help in their reinforcement in the next age. The left pillar is associated with Fire (male), the right is associated with Water (female). Their synthesis represents hermaphrodism, or the destruction of individual qualities.



Do you notice any interlocking triangles (Male and Female) in the image below?



Is there any thinly veiled message in naming a building the One World building?

[Orion]

(07-31-2016 08:19 AM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  

What these pillars actually represent are Strength (the left hand path), and Beauty (the right hand path). The left hand path is associated with earthly power, materialism, selfishness, deception, and severity. The right hand path is associated with spirituality, altruism, truth, and wisdom. The middle path, or synthesis, represents the central gateway for the two opposing forces to compete. The middle also represents the human realm, where our senses (chakras) are influenced by each side.

(To be continued)

As far as i know, sun is associated with right hand path, and moon with left hand path, but this dichotomy is only a loose concept, not entirely to be understood the way you did. Left hand path, while emphasizing abandonment of common perceptions of good and evil, cannot be identified with such concepts as black magic, and other dark trades.

[911]

(07-30-2016 07:13 AM)kikuyu1 Wrote:  

Returning to the original question of the thread title-looking at the background of many of the Hollywood handlers,definitely mind control is used associated with Satanism and pedophilia.

Dr.Antony Kidman,a psychiatrist,Nicole's dad was one of the faceless programmers intricately involved in very very dark shit back in Oz.

Quote:

Another strange Kidman connection to Satanism is the woman who brought Nicole to international Fame. It was Liz Mullinar who is credited with Nicole’s international success and she is the founder of Heal for Life, Australia’s leading Satanic Ritual Abuse clinic, where there have been reports that Satanic Cult members have been employed. Mullinar was a victim of a peadophile ring and alleges her Church of England father was responsible.

http://www.mcmurrayreport.com/2015/12/29...omment-358

He was connected with child torture techniques and top CIA shrink Dr.John W Gittinger. Dr.Kidman was named in 2014 as being a major player in an Aussie child sex Satanic ring when he took off for Singapore,where he allegedly died of a heart attack.

That's probably why Kubrick cast her in Eyes Wide Shot, she was some kind of MK Monarch slave in the film, and in real life too.

There is some good material on Eyes Wide Shot deeper interpretations out there, will post some later down the line.

[thoughtgypsy]

What are the towers of Boaz(strength) and Jachin(beauty) trying to convey? Perhaps they represent something that is intrinsic within us.









What portions of the brain are between the two brain hemispheres and what is their function?



What was the significance that cultures throughout history ascribed to the pineal gland, a gland which produces DMT and is responsible for what occurs during near death experiences?

[Fortis]

ThoughtGypsy is the forum's Giorgio Tsoukalous.





Just kidding, but that was a sick breakdown.

[911]

The pineal gland covered by TGypsy above is susceptible to damage from fluoride. This is one of the physiological mechanisms through which water fluoridation dulls people down:




And this is a good rundown of Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut by Jay Dyer.

https://jaysanalysis.com/2011/01/25/eyes...-analysis/


This is an area of expertise for him, his blog is focused on esoteric symbolism and manipulation in films:

https://jaysanalysis.com/category/esoter...-episodes/


Kubrick is a treasure trove of occult (i.e. hidden) messages, he was very much an insider. He was a very bright artist and a fanatically meticulous filmmaker, so that the tiniest details in his films were there by design. There are enough clues in The Shining for example that point to his role in staging the Apollo films.

Some have also ascertained that Kubrick has conveyed the takeover of the monetary system by the PTB in The Shining:

[thoughtgypsy]

Animal Sacrifice and Human Sacrifice

Many are familiar with the fact that many religions practiced animal and human sacrifice to appease their gods.

Where did this practice come from?

Let's go back to the tree of life and the "chakras" of the body:





Notice the positions of each of the Chakras, and the body functions generally associated with them.

Now take a look at the spinal cord and the brain:



The image above depicts our nerve center. It's responsible for how we see, feel, touch, experience pain and pleasure, think, believe, and experience the world around us.

Now scroll up and look at the chakra diagram, and note how the Cabalah tree of life corresponds to the functions of each section of the spinal cord as well as the brain.

If you notice, the more animalistic functions correspond to the base of the cord, including the brain stem (which many regard as our "lizard" or involuntary brain). Once we reach the hemispheres of the brain, we reach our "human", rational and ego driven functions. Only when we get to the Pineal gland, the hypothalamus, and other areas of the central brain to we reach the sections of the brain historically associated with spirituality.

The phrase "everything in moderation" comes from the common knowledge that the pursuit of pure hedonism leads to destructive consequences. While eating is pleasurable, we must control our appetite, otherwise we will get fat and destroy our health. If we drink too much, we destroy our livers and lose control. If we have permiscuous sex too much, we risk STDS, loss of emotional depth, and unwanted pregnancies.

Overcoming these vices can help lead to a more balanced life, and stops us from being driven purely by our desires.

Once we overcome our animalistic instincts, we are still faced with human difficulties. It's easy to become jealous, depressed, narcissistic. We each have unique personality flaws which we must overcome in order to live more balanced lives. Only by overcoming the ego and reaching emotional stability can we begin to ponder the greater meaning and purpose of life.



These two obstacles we must overcome are key in attaining higher development. Another way of putting it is sacrificing the animal in us, and later, sacrificing the human frailties (though we can never become divine; we are imperfect) in order to reach a higher state of consciousness and peace.

(07-31-2016 11:58 AM)Orion Wrote:  

As far as i know, sun is associated with right hand path, and moon with left hand path, but this dichotomy is only a loose concept, not entirely to be understood the way you did. Left hand path, while emphasizing abandonment of common perceptions of good and evil, cannot be identified with such concepts as black magic, and other dark trades.

It depends on whether your perspective is from outside the gateway or inside. I would agree that the overall tradition is neutral, and was later corrupted by breakaway groups. This ties in nicely to my next point.

I believe these concepts (animal and human sacrifice) were inverted so that a rival group could more easily distinguish itself from the group it broke away from. This goes back to the schism of the Asuras and the Devas. The groups associated with the Asuras were known to have practiced literal animal and human sacrifice.

I believe they took these practices across the globe, much further than modern establishment historians will acknowledge. Indeed, they have no explanation for the presence of tobacco and cocaine (American native species) in the Egyptian mummies.













The upright pentragam star is symbolic of the microcosm, or people and objects in the universe at smaller scales, of which man is included as the largest. It signifies self control, and in occult circles, is sometimes regarded as sealing out demonic entities.

If that is their belief, what do they believe an inverted pentagram star represents?

[thoughtgypsy]

DNA Molecular structure



Babylonian Ningizzida



The above image is over 6000 years old. It's also reflected in the Cadeucus, which is often used as a symbol in medicine