[Leonard D Neubache]

[The_e_man]

(01-12-2016 10:01 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

I've seen girls happily become girlfriends of guys they would never ever fuck in a club environment. Girls generally fuck up and date down. Guys fuck down and date up. If you bang her on the first date, in all likelihood you have more value than her. Which makes it easier to keep the bitch in check if you decide to date her long term.

Then how come I can fuck girls very easily (SNL from nightclub), but I can hardly ever keep them around for a second bang, let alone LTR?
Shouldn't I be the "up" person? Am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong?

[MaceTyrell]

Although...I like this "fuck down, date up" angle for guys.

[Akwesi]

Through a mutual acquaintance I discovered some info about a girl I took home about 3 years ago:

1. I was her 71st lay.
2. She had just gotten married 3 weeks earlier.
3. She was 3 months pregnant at the time.

African club girl who married a white guy and moved to the UK. Cock count is now 85. In other words - in three years of marriage and raising an infant she has still managed to bang 15 new guys.

I see it as increasingly unlikely that I'll ever get married.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Hard to push NAWALT but definitely NAWATB (not all women are that bad).

[TTQQTT]

(03-04-2017 12:16 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 10:01 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

I've seen girls happily become girlfriends of guys they would never ever fuck in a club environment. Girls generally fuck up and date down. Guys fuck down and date up. If you bang her on the first date, in all likelihood you have more value than her. Which makes it easier to keep the bitch in check if you decide to date her long term.

Then how come I can fuck girls very easily (SNL from nightclub), but I can hardly ever keep them around for a second bang, let alone LTR?
Shouldn't I be the "up" person? Am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong?

I think it's more like girls "fuck up and date up". Just two different kinds of up.

[MediumRare]

"Then how come I can fuck girls very easily (SNL from nightclub), but I can hardly ever keep them around for a second bang, let alone LTR?
Shouldn't I be the "up" person? Am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong?"

I used to have this exact problem in my early 20's

Looking back, I think it was down to a few things.

Firstly, although I could pull easily being tall, good looking, and cocky and aggressive in chatting girls up when drunk, the next day they would meet my real life personality which st the time was more of an emotionally weak little boy.
I think this contrast to the man they thought they went home with was probably off putting to some.
Basically lack of masculine frame beyond the pull.

On reflection though the biggest thing for me, was that I subconsciously went off girls once I'd fucked them.

Except for one girl which to this day is the only girlfriend I have ever had (and whom I later married) I had a weird thing where once I had fucked a girl, I would always go emotionally cold on them, not even wanting to talk to or see them again if I could help it, let alone fuck them again!

I have no idea why this was, probably an extreme madonna/whore complex where deep down I didn't actually like them anymore because they let me fuck them.
I think girls sensed this and were understandably put off.

Lastly, never having regular GF's to practice with definitely cost me a lot of sexual experience.
With the benefit of my sex life now, I see that at the time I was actually very bad at sex, in fact shit!

That will always put them off lol.

[tremont]

(03-04-2017 12:16 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

Then how come I can fuck girls very easily (SNL from nightclub), but I can hardly ever keep them around for a second bang, let alone LTR?
Shouldn't I be the "up" person? Am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong?

I think it has to do with you.

Maybe you are able to supercharge her emotions enough to get the bang, but after the fantasy is over the reality doesn't match? Maybe somehow your style is only attractive to fast sluts who only want fun and attention but quality girls see through you? Maybe you aren't able to open yourself emotionally during that SNL?

Pay attention to the situation and the energy. When you're going through the SNL, is it warm, close, honest, and leading to intimacy, or some kind of cold opportunistic "lets fuck" agreement? How much is genuine vs fake? What quality of chicks are you taking home?

Try to ascertain why is she coming home with you? Is it because you're this really interesting high value man she wants to know more about? Or is it just because shes horny, drunk, and your game was good enough to wet the pussy? Girls use men for sex the same way we do to them.

Somehow I have the opposite problem. I always end up in an LTR. I'm very physical, emotionally open (I put my vulnerabilities on display and even exaggerate them with self-depreciating humor), and tend to fall in love easily when I meet a high quality woman. Somehow I don't do as well with trashy sluts.

Remember, you can tell a lot about a man by the kind of girl he is with. If you're having problems then you need to work on yourself. I think only deep self awareness, honesty about your current weaknesses, willingness to put your ego aside be objective and improve, along with social situational awareness can fix these kinds of problems.

[The_e_man]

^ damn. I think you're more or less spot-on. Club thots and slutty girls and party girls LOVE me. Love everything about me, love the fact that I have a reputation as a "fuckboy" or player. But we all know you can't make trash like that stick around.

I was going to PM you so that I don't derail this thread any further, but I'll just start a new thread instead in case anyone else is going through my same issues. Hope to see you on there.

[Mirjan]

Eh it depends really.

Probably I was going to say that if she bangs in the first date than she is slutty enough to not be a good mother or long term girlfriend or that she will cheat me in the future.

It holds some truths in it, but it is not a 100% exact science.

She might feel a special connection to me and really like me and bang with me in the first date, meaning she would respect and really appreciate me, by being a good LTR material.

However I do not trust girls than bang in the first night.

[rafaeld]

Nonsense.

That girl who makes you wait, you think if Hugh Jackman or Dwayne Johnson walked in and told her to shut up and suck she'd make them wait too? If a girl likes you she will fuck you the first night, period. Doesn't matter if she was a virgin before or if she is "that kind of girl".

I had a girlfriend for two years, she fucked me the first night and she was as loyal as they come. Complete LTR material, she practically worshipped me while we were together.

You want to spend time with girls who LIKE you. Why would you spend time with a girl who doesn't like you enough to fuck you on the first date? Go out and find one who does and stop wasting your time.

[Naughty By Nature]

If a girl gives me a blumpkin on the 1st night then she's not LTR material.

[Naughty By Nature]

(03-04-2017 03:31 AM)Akwesi Wrote:  

Through a mutual acquaintance I discovered some info about a girl I took home about 3 years ago:

1. I was her 71st lay.
2. She had just gotten married 3 weeks earlier.
3. She was 3 months pregnant at the time.

African club girl who married a white guy and moved to the UK. Cock count is now 85. In other words - in three years of marriage and raising an infant she has still managed to bang 15 new guys.

I see it as increasingly unlikely that I'll ever get married.

I don't believe any of this.

I believe that your acquaintance told you this but I do NOT believe it actually happened.

What kind of woman porks 85 dudes (excluding prostitution whores)? Also, how would your acquaintance know her precise lay count, lololol? I call total BS. Investigate 7/11.

[Akwesi]

(03-07-2017 07:03 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 03:31 AM)Akwesi Wrote:  

Through a mutual acquaintance I discovered some info about a girl I took home about 3 years ago:

1. I was her 71st lay.
2. She had just gotten married 3 weeks earlier.
3. She was 3 months pregnant at the time.

African club girl who married a white guy and moved to the UK. Cock count is now 85. In other words - in three years of marriage and raising an infant she has still managed to bang 15 new guys.

I see it as increasingly unlikely that I'll ever get married.

I don't believe any of this.

I believe that your acquaintance told you this but I do NOT believe it actually happened.

What kind of woman porks 85 dudes (excluding prostitution whores)? Also, how would your acquaintance know her precise lay count, lololol? I call total BS. Investigate 7/11.

Solid points. I thought of that as well, the acquaintance is of course also female and has her own agenda.

[rudebwoy]

(03-04-2017 12:16 AM)The_e_man Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 10:01 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

I've seen girls happily become girlfriends of guys they would never ever fuck in a club environment. Girls generally fuck up and date down. Guys fuck down and date up. If you bang her on the first date, in all likelihood you have more value than her. Which makes it easier to keep the bitch in check if you decide to date her long term.

Then how come I can fuck girls very easily (SNL from nightclub), but I can hardly ever keep them around for a second bang, let alone LTR?
Shouldn't I be the "up" person? Am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong?

Maybe the lay wasn't so good.

[El Padrone]

Akwesi y Naughty, you should read the ''vile sluts who accept more dick than a urinal'' thread.

That married broad's notchcount is accurate.

[Burzat]

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Agreed. Here is a pic of a chick I banged the first time I met her. We had a short term relationship and she was bat shit crazy.

Generally, the crazier they are the more phenomenal the sex. Definitely not LTR material.

The pic shows her wifed up to some guy after I punished her. I guess he saw LTR in her.

I think he got swayed by her sluttish ways. Some guys are weak like that.

(01-12-2016 09:32 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Agree or disagree?

WIA

[Leonard D Neubache]

(03-07-2017 07:03 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 03:31 AM)Akwesi Wrote:  

...
African club girl who married a white guy and moved to the UK. Cock count is now 85. In other words - in three years of marriage and raising an infant she has still managed to bang 15 new guys.

I see it as increasingly unlikely that I'll ever get married.

I don't believe any of this.

I believe that your acquaintance told you this but I do NOT believe it actually happened.

What kind of woman porks 85 dudes (excluding prostitution whores)? Also, how would your acquaintance know her precise lay count, lololol? I call total BS. Investigate 7/11.

One ONS every Saturday night for two years and she'd have 104notches. In just two years...

Count it.

Two.

Years.

I don't know why some guys are so surprised that a slut's pussy could see astronomical levels of cock. It's simple maths. I've known girls that never went home alone on the weekend. Their notch count would be so high as to have entered into a zone where the actual number is irrelevant. Let's just call it "x" where "x = more than is acceptable to anybody who would rule out a woman based on their notch count".

[Akwesi]

Burzat, read the rules:

7. Do not post about the following: jailbait girls, illegal crimes, p4p, gore, scat, NSFW images, or images of girls you know. Do not share images or screenshots that identify your dates or girlfriends (e.g., first names, faces, phone numbers, etc) and do not upload naked photos directly to the forum.

[Naughty By Nature]

(03-09-2017 04:32 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(03-07-2017 07:03 AM)Naughty By Nature Wrote:  

(03-04-2017 03:31 AM)Akwesi Wrote:  

...
African club girl who married a white guy and moved to the UK. Cock count is now 85. In other words - in three years of marriage and raising an infant she has still managed to bang 15 new guys.

I see it as increasingly unlikely that I'll ever get married.

I don't believe any of this.

I believe that your acquaintance told you this but I do NOT believe it actually happened.

What kind of woman porks 85 dudes (excluding prostitution whores)? Also, how would your acquaintance know her precise lay count, lololol? I call total BS. Investigate 7/11.

One ONS every Saturday night for two years and she'd have 104notches. In just two years...

Count it.

Two.

Years.

I don't know why some guys are so surprised that a slut's pussy could see astronomical levels of cock. It's simple maths. I've known girls that never went home alone on the weekend. Their notch count would be so high as to have entered into a zone where the actual number is irrelevant. Let's just call it "x" where "x = more than is acceptable to anybody who would rule out a woman based on their notch count".

LOL, not sure if serious.

Even the biggest sluts don't have sex with a different guy every week of the year. A different guy every month (12/year) is even pushing it.

Also, a girl going home with a dude does not necessarily equal sex. A lot of women throw down LMR.

[Leonard D Neubache]

And one starting when she's 16 will reach what notch count by the time she's 26?

Secondly, where are you getting this deep and all encompassing insight from? I've had jobs that have given me a front row seat to where these female train wrecks end up. What's your source that NoWALT?

[El Padrone]

Naughty, there's a saying broads use where I'm at that says that
the vagina doesn't count the penile missiles hurled at it.

Single use sluts are all around you- wake up!!!

[Ironbutt62]

I think the original point of this post generally holds true. By and large, we men seek out "high-quality" sluts. We count our notches and brag about it to one another. And why shouldn't we? Men --especially alphas, want variety and enjoy the chase. We'll fuck the hell out of a 7 and up and a SNL with such is the ultimate proof of us being on top of our game. Again, nothing wrong with that at all. But marriage or LTR commitment? That depends.

My first wife checked all the boxes of the type of girls we chase here--- on the outside. Had I known way back then what I know now, I would have pumped and dumped. Lol. But I have four perfect kids, so it ended up all right after I red-polled and she left us.

I'm sure there are exceptions to every generalization but I'd have to agree with the OP, sluts are fun but don't make good wives.

[torridon747]

(04-10-2017 03:28 PM)Ironbutt62 Wrote:  

I'm sure there are exceptions to every generalization but I'd have to agree with the OP, sluts are fun but don't make good wives.

Reminds me of a line i spit to this girl who was trying to dig at me for LTR-potential. She had a pretty high cock count at 20 years of age (50 is what she admitted, so more like 150) After she gave me some road head and I was driving her to work she started talking about her friend that needed to get laid. She said "it shouldn't be too hard, she's kind of a slut". I just sighed and said "yeah everyone loves sluts alright, until it's time to find a wife" and then looked her in her eyes. She never asked me LTR related questions again, but we kept having sex for a while.

[Australia Sucks]

I think a girl that fucks you on the first day/night can in some cases still be mini relationship material but is unworthy of marriage. If I ever decide to get married it will be with a young virgin (preferably 18 or 19) that demands a ring on her finger before giving up the pussy.