[LeBeau]

Should be in Newbie Forum.

[WestIndianArchie]

@Guitarman

It's the definition if game denialism.

He's asking for dating advice on the absolute worst forum for it.

WIA

[MikeS]

I completely agree with most of the advice given in this thread.

However I'll defend the TC slightly with regards to the progression from date to bed, although my Eastern Europe experience is only limited to living three years in Sofia, Bulgaria. Quite different from my native Denmark where the girls, similar to much of Western Europe and presumably the US, are frequently happy to fuck a few hours or less after meeting if they like you.

I've had no first date bangs here (closest I got was a first date weekend trip), they happen between 2nd and 4th date (that's where I draw the line) - although I usually stick entirely to what I want to do on those dates, which is typically something very simple like a drink or coffee and a walk if it's in the afternoon (speeding things along with several drinks, as I often used to do back in Scandinavia if they weren't already drunk when I met them, rarely works here since most of the girls I date drink slowly and only one or two drinks).
And as far as using transparent bait like "let's watch a movie at my place/try this red wine/cook something/play fetch with my goldfish", it's been completely and utterly useless for me here until the girl is ready to jump into bed. They seem to know what's expected if they agree to meet in private with a guy - but as such I've also never experienced any LMR here.

[Dino]

The next time she makes you read texts from some other guy smash the fucking phone. You may need to leave though or the police may be involved - or it could be a turn on for her. Either way tearing up shit is fun.

[Off The Reservation]

(01-13-2016 11:10 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Neither of us drink...

I'll have to come up with a really good excuse to...

It really goes to show that it's never too late to make a change....

I'm completely aware of myself and my surroundings and I know that my emotions are clouding my judgement....

it'll all end up in me being hurt again,...

I would honestly rather be stupid, fall in love and end up dumped and heartbroken...

I take back what I said about your questions being sincere. You aren't listening to anyone here. You are playing this soundtrack of your own emotions quoted above in your head even as you read, regardless of the words anyone types, or that you type, this is what you hear.
As the peanuts said "wah wah wah waah wawah wah."

[jariel]

(01-13-2016 12:10 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

Should be in Newbie Forum.

Should be in the St. Jude's Forum.

[Off The Reservation]

(01-13-2016 05:41 PM)jariel Wrote:  

(01-13-2016 12:10 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  

Should be in Newbie Forum.

Should be in the St. Jude's Forum.

[Herr Dickenstein]

I feel like I have an obligation to update you guys on the latest turn of events

The empty apartment wasn't so empty after all so nothing happened. I got cockblocked by my grandma. Yep. Fuck my life.

But the date went great besides that.

[Vienna]

(01-14-2016 03:14 PM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

I feel like I have an obligation to update you guys on the latest turn of events

The empty apartment wasn't so empty after all so nothing happened. I got cockblocked by my grandma. Yep. Fuck my life.

But the date went great besides that.

Oh man.

That was the Hail Mary of emergency logistics. "Let's go to my Grandma's place."

[DMario]

You say theres hiking trails, which probably mean theres camping grounds. Take her camping and fuck her in the woods When I was 17 I had the worst logistics, I ended up taking a chick fishing and fucking her on the park bench after dark haha.

[Off The Reservation]

So does this mean another thread is going to be opened for the fifth date?...

[Off The Reservation]

(01-14-2016 03:14 PM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

I feel like I have an obligation to update you guys on the latest turn of events

The empty apartment wasn't so empty after all so nothing happened. I got cockblocked by my grandma. Yep. Fuck my life.

But the date went great besides that.

At least it's a fresh excuse!

[Suits]

(01-12-2016 05:59 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Trust me, almost no one here has sex before at least a month or two of semi-serious relationship.

In that case, this forum is all about being almost no one.

[Captain Gh]

(01-12-2016 05:59 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Trust me, almost no one here has sex before at least a month or two of semi-serious relationship.

Ah man this quote deserves another one...

[Off The Reservation]

(01-17-2016 12:02 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(01-12-2016 05:59 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Trust me, almost no one here has sex before at least a month or two of semi-serious relationship.

In that case, this forum is all about being almost no one.

+1 the nobody who banged his girl after that date.

[Mercenary]

(01-12-2016 05:59 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Besides, I'm currently more interested in locking her down in a relationship, the bang will naturally come later.
If I rush things, nothing good will come out of it.

Things happening "naturally" is how females think.
Stop thinking like a girl.

The ONLY way to "lock down" any girl is by banging her.
Repeatedly.

[Herr Dickenstein]

Shit's going down, gentlemen. Logistics problem is solved, she's coming to my place. Everything is coming together perfectly.

Now I'm going to ask for a really newbie advice, but when's the right time to escalate? She's obviously into it, but how do I read the signs? The last thing I want is to fuck up in the last moment

5th date bang FTW

[262]

^^^
Buy an electronic copy of Roosh's "Bang" from Amazon. Only $10. It'll tell you how:

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[Guitarman]

Just always be escalating!

[OGNorCal707]

(01-17-2016 05:45 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

Shit's going down, gentlemen. Logistics problem is solved, she's coming to my place. Everything is coming together perfectly.

Now I'm going to ask for a really newbie advice, but when's the right time to escalate? She's obviously into it, but how do I read the signs? The last thing I want is to fuck up in the last moment

5th date bang FTW

As an inexperienced newbie you will think that "making the move" is difficult and will psych yourself out about not "fucking up", but the reality of it is that it's quite simple.

I will give you the most concise breakdown possible, get her alone in a comfortable location, for example on the couch at your apartment, sit down directly next to her, make sure you are touching her, start by putting your hand on her upper thigh, once you've broke the touch barrier, make sure that you are directly facing her and looking deeply into her eyes, whether or not you have a perfect moment, once your eyes are locked, move in for the kiss.

If she's into you there's no reason why she won't be into making out with you, once you're making out, let your hands explore, grab and squeezer her breasts, and rub her pussy on the outside of her jeans, kiss her neck, and then put your hands up/down her shirt, and under her bra, squeezing her bare breast. After that take her shirt off, then her bra off, then start sucking on her breasts, and licking her nipples.

Once you've got her shirt and bra off, take your shirt off. You want to match every piece of clothing that she takes off, you take off too. Next you work on un buckling and unzipping her jeans, and start rubbing her clit, and finger her pussy under her panties. Next take her jeans completely off. Take your pants off. Take her panties off and start finger her pussy. Pull your underwear off and put her hand on your dick.

If you have a bed in another room to fuck her on, grab her by the hand and lead her to the other room and take her to the bed, push her on the bed, and start sucking on her tits, while you finger her pussy. Then if I were you and she's hot I'd start eating her pussy for like 5 minutes, and then I'd lay back and tell her to suck dick while I play with her pussy. Afterwards maybe 69 for a while, then fuck the shit out of her once your nice and warmed up. This approach works well for me.

Hope that helped. May the force be with you.

[dark_g]

50/50 we get another excuse....

[Suits]

OP seems to be a little slow about updating us with the exciting news.

[Herr Dickenstein]

(01-18-2016 04:36 AM)Suits Wrote:  

OP seems to be a little slow about updating us with the exciting news.

Oh, they aren't too exciting. Or they are, but not in the sense that you guys would expect. We did everything except the actual bang

She wasn't ready for it so I didn't want to push it. We did some dry humping, made out and cuddled for most of the night. I'll still call it a huge success because she's more into me than ever before.

And the competition may not be so fierce after all, from what I can tell she's probably a virgin and her exes were a bunch of omegas who were too scared to even touch her. Life's good, gentlemen.

[Mercenary]

(01-19-2016 05:03 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 04:36 AM)Suits Wrote:  

OP seems to be a little slow about updating us with the exciting news.

Oh, they aren't too exciting. Or they are, but not in the sense that you guys would expect. We did everything except the actual bang

You are painfully short on crucial details.

You need to describe how you escalated with her...where it happened and how it happened.
Most importantly how you got to the kiss...and how much you did insist...in what way did she resist you ?

...and what do you mean by "we did everything ..." ?

Unless she sucked you off down on her knees to completion...then that is by no means "everything except"

[Vienna]

(01-19-2016 05:03 AM)Herr Dickenstein Wrote:  

(01-18-2016 04:36 AM)Suits Wrote:  

OP seems to be a little slow about updating us with the exciting news.

Oh, they aren't too exciting. Or they are, but not in the sense that you guys would expect. We did everything except the actual bang

She wasn't ready for it so I didn't want to push it. We did some dry humping, made out and cuddled for most of the night. I'll still call it a huge success because she's more into me than ever before.

And the competition may not be so fierce after all, from what I can tell she's probably a virgin and her exes were a bunch of omegas who were too scared to even touch her. Life's good, gentlemen.

She's got you wrapped around her finger.