[kaotic]

WIA nails it, females change all the fucking time, like the flip of a switch.

They can be unpredictable, but still want you to adher to their standards, players see the fallacy in that and next those bitches.

The majority if not all women aren't worthwhile investments.

On money:

Make your fucking paper, do you. Absolutely get rich, just remember how it'll change your perception with women.

You have to be weary, you've gotta change your frame, and adjust to what you'll be seeing more of.

DON'T get frustrated with these hoes (I doubt balling will make you).

You can use your wealth to your absolute advantage, I know I would. I see no reason for a wealthy player to slow down or settle for a LONG time.


On women:

I don't make the greatest money, maybe average or a bit below. I make up for that in game/frame/personality.

Take a bitch out, make her laugh, drop some stories, let her do most the talking, let her punch your shoulder playfully by teasing her, get her comfortable, drop same bait, take her home and bang her out.

The biggest factor in a woman sleeping with me besides getting her out and connecting with her is making her laugh. Seriously, they're yours if you do.

Shit especially that first make out as she's laughing, pure gold.

I'm a naturally funny, cocky, assholish, but very intelligent person. I can drop a perverted joke in one place and drop some knowledge on a subject in another sentence.

Jesus christ if I was balling, it'd take my game to another level. I've also realized that I've got a decent amount of game time in, now it's time to put in work and make some money.

[Brodiaga]

I'd rather have more money than more game.

If you have real money (Let's say over 5 mil), you can just travel around the world and bang chicks as much as you want. You can also do it on much less than that, but will have to watch your budget.

Want game in easy mode? The Philippines. Want more drama, but more beautiful women? Russia / eastern Europe.

Yes, basic game is required, but beyond that location trumps game. Money will help you change location and make sure your logistics is 100%.

Other than that, I agree that throwing money at bitches to make a good impression is stupid and works against you.

[Gringuito]

NYC woman moves to Silicon Valley and is repulsed by the no-game multi-millionaires there:

http://www.vogue.com/9293175/love-storie...on-valley/

Guys talking about multi-million dollar deals...boring. Posing with one of the wealthier tech-giants and Apple founder...should I be impressed? Of course it's not important what women say, it's what they do. Still, it's a data point.

This forum is self-selecting to those people that already have decent to advanced game. Of course adding money to someone like that will help. On the other hand, if you don't have game and can't even hold eye contact with a women, money won't help very much.

Another example is stupid guys being rinsed by women:

thread-52650.html

Paying for someone to fly around the world, before you've slept with her? Rich or poor, that's a special kind of stupid.

[Kamikaze]

I know most guys here are referring to women who get their pussies moistened by ‘interesting’ jobs. I get that in the US, most women are like that. But there's a subset of other girls who don't respond that way. When bitches ask 'so what do you do,' your response and their subsequent reaction says a lot about them. To me they shake out to two categories:

1. Women who frown and turn their noses up to ‘boring’ jobs, and let out a yearning sigh when you answer ‘EDM DJ’ or ‘bartender at XYZ.'
2. Women who respect high-earning careers, no matter the ‘boringness.'

To fish these women out, I stumbled upon a little test I like to run on girls I meet for the first time. It’s simple. When girls ask me what I do, I respond ‘I’m going to dental school. Gonna work on some teeth.’ This isn’t true, though I’ve considered it. But I decided to use that as a line each time just to check reactions, and since I've got some jokes about it.

Guess what? Most American bitches contorted their faces like I’d just ripped out a wet fart in an elevator. But there were surprisingly a lot of girls who not only didn’t grimace, they respected it quite a bit and said ‘oh, really,’ and proceeded to ask questions in legitimate interest. I don’t have to say that most of these girls weren’t American, or Americanized, or were American girls who had lived abroad in countries outside the 'first world.' Or they were just American girls who were adorably humble and sweet and came from good backgrounds. Lo and behold, I get along extremely well with the broads who don’t mind being with a dentist who works 9-5 4 days a week yet still rakes in 150K+. Surprisingly, there are still practical-ass bitches in the world.

Unwittingly, I stumbled upon a way to separate these practical broads from the simple lizards who always short circuit for the bad boy… the same way Seinfeld and Larry David did decades ago.

To a pro-dentite, a nice, high-earning, good-hours career is a positive thing. To an anti-dentite, she’ll prefer to get waterboarded than to spend her life with a guy who looks at teeth for a living.

Anti-dentites are for pumping and dumping. Pro-dentites are sweet, logical, and more than likely cook well and would make doting wives and caring mothers. Which makes them perfect booty-eating candidates.

[B-Nut]

Money is a form of status. It can give you a higher value and creates tingles just like looks. Hence, LMS as the ultimate holy grail of attraction triggers. Even above game.

As to why money would not be giving someone results ?

- The threshold money amount to create tingles is often a much higher amount than people realize. I know many people with well paying jobs well above average, and it does not help them with chicks. Making a couple hundred thousand and having a label as a doctor, lawyer, etc is nice and will get some marriage minded women to look at you harder as a provider, but it is not comparable to a guy with hot looks or other forms of status.

I believe the threshold dollar amount of money to get similar attraction results to that of an Aesthetic Chad is in the many millions of dollars. And if the money was not inherited but created yourself adds additional status and tingles.

Getting sexual attraction for fun casual sex through money simply is going to be unattainable for 99 percent of the people on here.

[A guy from Ocllo]

The way I see it, you only need money to build confidence. Women see the confidence in your body language.

More often than not you don't even need to spend more than a few dollars to get laid.
But it's having enough cash that counts.

[Pareto]

Money can be used to have more freedom, to do the things that you want to do without financial restraint, to relax more and pay others to do the menial tedious tasks.

(Disclaimer: I don't have a lot of money, the following is just from observations)

Money can be used to aid game:

- buy yourself a better wardrobe of clothes
- help get your life back on track
- allows you to do interesting things that you can converse about, raising your value

Can money be used as a perfect substitute for game? It can, but you probably won't have much luck with it - that, and the girls who you'll get will most likely be gold-diggers.

I don't think that flashing the cash at a woman passing by will do much good. I do believe it'd make her feel cheap, and therefore give the opposite effect as to what you want.

[A guy from Ocllo]

Adding to my previous post

Basically you don't need tons of money to pull girls consistently. You need enough money to make your life comfortable. Money for drinks, cab rides, condomes, hotel rooms. That's all you need.

[OneEyedMonk]

Always remember the "Automatic Compensation Assumption" (ASA).

For absolutely every cent you spend on a woman, she will interpret it as you spending the cash to compensate for serious shortcomings in your character. Every cent. Every purpose.

You paying for the dinner? - You do because you have a small dick!
You taking her to Aruba all paid? - You do because you're old and ugly!
You paying for her mother's cancer surgery? - You do because you suck in the sack!
...

It is a hardwiring in every woman's firmware, and she keeps very close accounting of your spending on her, and the corresponding assumed shortcomings. It is a mechanism to protect her from low qual DNA.

Self-beta-buxing is what you do to yourself. If you enjoy the role of a provider, you have arrived.

[Pareto]

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[Saweeep]

(01-01-2016 10:30 AM)OneEyedMonk Wrote:  

Always remember the "Automatic Compensation Assumption" (ASA).

For absolutely every cent you spend on a woman, she will interpret it as you spending the cash to compensate for serious shortcomings in your character. Every cent. Every purpose.

You paying for the dinner? - You do because you have a small dick!
You taking her to Aruba all paid? - You do because you're old and ugly!
You paying for her mother's cancer surgery? - You do because you suck in the sack!
...

It is a hardwiring in every woman's firmware, and she keeps very close accounting of your spending on her, and the corresponding assumed shortcomings. It is a mechanism to protect her from low qual DNA.

Self-beta-buxing is what you do to yourself. If you enjoy the role of a provider, you have arrived.

Nonsense.

[HankMoody]

It depends on context.

Scenario A: You meet a nice girl on OkCupid. You're super stoked about this date. You make reservations at a very fine restaurant and order two $100 bottles of wine. The steaks are $90 a piece. At the end of the date, you gladly offer to pay, making sure she knows that you just dropped $500. Chances are, she's not impressed and you're going home alone. The conversation with her girlfriend after will sound like this:

"How was your date with Todd last night?"
"It was a little weird. We went to Steak House. He wouldn't stop talking about his job, and how much money he has. It made him seem so... insecure. I'm just not feeling the spark."

Scenario B: You've been banging a solid 8 on the regular. You're open to escalating this into an LTR, or maybe you just feel like a nice night out. One night you say "Babe, I'm coming to pick you up." "Oh yeah? Where are we going?" "Surprise, dress hot." You show up at a tasteful BYO with two appropriate bottles of wine. At the end of the date you pick up the tab. That night, you get all the blowjobs you can handle. The conversation with her girlfriend afterwards:

"How was your date with Hank?"
"It was SO romantic! We went to this Greek place, and he brought wine from the region. I'm really starting to like him."

Case in point - if you're trying to buy her affection, you're bringing nothing to the table but money. And if that's all you're bringing to the table, you're an easily replaceable commodity. Plus, throwing around money and leading with it makes it seem like you're insecure.

Keep in mind that attraction is physical for both sexes. You're not going to bang that 4 just because she's sweet and funny. There needs to be a reasonable level of physical attraction. Same thing with guys who have money - some level of attraction needs to exist, otherwise you're DOA. (or getting cheated on all the time).

You can use money selectively to escalate, or just because you feel like it. Or you can just be creative and take her to the art museum, camping, or a haunted house tour.

In my opinion, money isn't necessary to have a vibrant sex life. It can help in the right context, but it's not necessary. As I was writing that post about cheap dates, I realized that's still more of what I rely on than ballin' out.

[FlyBoy]

(01-01-2016 12:48 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

It depends on context.

Scenario A: You meet a nice girl on OkCupid. You're super stoked about this date. You make reservations at a very fine restaurant and order two $100 bottles of wine. The steaks are $90 a piece. At the end of the date, you gladly offer to pay, making sure she knows that you just dropped $500. Chances are, she's not impressed and you're going home alone. The conversation with her girlfriend after will sound like this:

"How was your date with Todd last night?"
"It was a little weird. We went to Steak House. He wouldn't stop talking about his job, and how much money he has. It made him seem so... insecure. I'm just not feeling the spark."

Scenario B: You've been banging a solid 8 on the regular. You're open to escalating this into an LTR, or maybe you just feel like a nice night out. One night you say "Babe, I'm coming to pick you up." "Oh yeah? Where are we going?" "Surprise, dress hot." You show up at a tasteful BYO with two appropriate bottles of wine. At the end of the date you pick up the tab. That night, you get all the blowjobs you can handle. The conversation with her girlfriend afterwards:

"How was your date with Hank?"
"It was SO romantic! We went to this Greek place, and he brought wine from the region. I'm really starting to like him."

Case in point - if you're trying to buy her affection, you're bringing nothing to the table but money. And if that's all you're bringing to the table, you're an easily replaceable commodity. Plus, throwing around money and leading with it makes it seem like you're insecure.

Keep in mind that attraction is physical for both sexes. You're not going to bang that 4 just because she's sweet and funny. There needs to be a reasonable level of physical attraction. Same thing with guys who have money - some level of attraction needs to exist, otherwise you're DOA. (or getting cheated on all the time).

You can use money selectively to escalate, or just because you feel like it. Or you can just be creative and take her to the art museum, camping, or a haunted house tour.

In my opinion, money isn't necessary to have a vibrant sex life. It can help in the right context, but it's not necessary. As I was writing that post about cheap dates, I realized that's still more of what I rely on than ballin' out.

How about Scenario C: You meet a nice girl. You take her to the best steak house in town, all the while acting normal. In other words you don't tell her it's the best, or that it serves an exclusive aged steak, instead let her make her own assumptions and reach her own conclusions. You keep the conversation easy and focused on her. You don't talk about your work because it's technical and boring to her. You never ever bring up the subject of money or how much things cost. Never! Once it's time to wrap up, you don't offer to pay, you just go ahead and give your credit card to the waiter. Ideally, before he brings the bill. Sign without fanfare and leave.

Continue your fun night (club, opera .. etc) escalate as necessary and retire home to bang.

Simple recipe that works most of the time.

The secret of capturing the leverage of money in interpersonal relationships, is to act as if it doesn't give any.

The easiest way to do this is to imagine that money is common.
-Everyone has a jet in their hangar.
-Everyone has a black card in their wallet.
-Everyone drives a Rolls Royce.
-Everyone wears a bespoke suit.
-Everyone engages in fine dining.
... etc

Therefore talking about any of these things is as enjoyable as talking about the lawn mower in your garage.

Even when you are giving money, you should act naturally and nonchalantly. Real life example:
You invite a chick you banged a couple of times to vacation with you. You know the place is expensive, so you want to give her some spending money. Go ahead and give it to her.

Don't count the money in front of her.
Don't tell her how much is the money. Don't worry she'll count it later lol
Don't tell her what she can or can't do with it.
Don't imply that you are doing something special for her.

Just hand it to her as if you were handing her the second key to the hotel suite. To her inquisitive look answer with a simple command, "keep it in your purse just in case you need it".


Yes, women want to bang you if you are rich. They just don't want to feel like whores.


Note: In this post I am talking about serious money, not having a highly paid professional job.

[Gringuito]

Flyboy, when you're giving your example and talking about serious money are you referring to yourself? Don't take that the wrong way, I'm just trying to get an idea if you're speaking from your direct experience.

I know that my opinion isn't popular but it's from my experience. I've tried a number of different strategies on different types of women to figure out what works for me. I never talk about money with women and talking about my companies is like pulling teeth. It's just not interesting to anyone outside of the small field I'm in. You know what attitude/technique I found works best? It's:

sup, making dinner, bring wine

I learned that from this website. I've tried from one extreme (showing up in an exotic, great restaurant, bouncing in the jet to a club afterward), to the other (drinks at a small bar, back to my place). I get a better conversion from the small bar or better yet dinner at my place. I've said before that when women in their late 20s and up sniff big bucks, they turn into born-again-virgins. That's just my personal experience. It's strange that people that aren't in this position try to tell me what my life experience should be. If you have suggestions on how better to get women using money (without paying), I'll listen. But to be honest, I've happy doing what has been working for me.

It's true that there are certain kinds of women that I can smash using the jet. They want to be in the mile high club or they want pics for their instagram account. They're basically gold diggers/escorts/players.

Since you're a pilot FlyBoy, don't you agree that a quick flight that you pilot in a single engine (Cessna/Cirrus) would be better than a flight in a jet? Girls love to see you flying and knowing that their life is in your hands.

If you look at the guys much wealthier than me, what kind of success have they had? If you exclude entertainers/sports figures/trust funders, who can you name that's drowning in models? Bill Gates was the wealthiest person in the world. He was single for decades. How many pictures of him with Victoria Secrets models did you see? Why did his wife turn down his offer to marry a couple of times before she agreed? Mark Zuckerburg is another young billionaire. How did that work out?

One other thing that you discount is the amount of drama that these women will give you once they get a taste of the good life. In your example above, you took a girl you banged just a couple of times on a vacation. So she gets the private flight, best hotel suite, and spending money. She's just a plate to you but in her mind you're basically married. When you don't call her back after the vacation's over watch your phone, friends, social media light up. One thing that I've learned is that women base how much you're into them by what you do for them. All the time I would get, but you were crazy in love with me!!!! This would come from a girl whose name I couldn't remember. They would overplay their hand constantly. This caused nothing but problems.

Excuse the rant, still recovering from NYE.

[worldwidetraveler]

(01-01-2016 06:06 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

If you look at the guys much wealthier than me, what kind of success have they had? If you exclude entertainers/sports figures/trust funders, who can you name that's drowning in models? Bill Gates was the wealthiest person in the world. He was single for decades. How many pictures of him with Victoria Secrets models did you see? Why did his wife turn down his offer to marry a couple of times before she agreed? Mark Zuckerburg is another young billionaire. How did that work out?

One other thing that you discount is the amount of drama that these women will give you once they get a taste of the good life. In your example above, you took a girl you banged just a couple of times on a vacation. So she gets the private flight, best hotel suite, and spending money. She's just a plate to you but in her mind you're basically married. When you don't call her back after the vacation's over watch your phone, friends, social media light up. One thing that I've learned is that women base how much you're into them by what you do for them. All the time I would get, but you were crazy in love with me!!!! This would come from a girl whose name I couldn't remember. They would overplay their hand constantly. This caused nothing but problems.

Excuse the rant, still recovering from NYE.

Gringuito, while you state that people on this board are responding towards this money vs game with decent to advance game, you and others seem to be cherry picking wealthy men who obviously have little social skills.

If you have somewhat decent social skills then I don't really know how money can't be a benefit. It certainly hasn't hurt me but helped me even though I am not in your pay league.

I end up going out to have fun. I am not out trying to game women. I most certainly will end up gaming women by my sole purpose is to have fun. If I get laid then it's a bonus.

I have had women say they weren't going to sleep with me. We would mess around and stop, mess around and stop and then she ended up too horny and couldn't stop herself.

Maybe you are not getting to that stage?

I do remember you stating that you got with some stunners which was at least a partly attributed to your wealth. I don't understand how you can be so anti-money (in this debate) but say that it has helped you get with some beautiful women.

Quote:

One thing that I've learned is that women base how much you're into them by what you do for them.

I agree which is why I don't understand the problem you seem to have with gold diggers. They are at least more upfront about what they want.

[Gringuito]

(01-01-2016 07:01 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Gringuito, while you state that people on this board are responding towards this money vs game with decent to advance game, you and others seem to be cherry picking wealthy men who obviously have little social skills.

If you have somewhat decent social skills then I don't really know how money can't be a benefit. It certainly hasn't hurt me but helped me even though I am not in your pay league.

I end up going out to have fun. I am not out trying to game women. I most certainly will end up gaming women by my sole purpose is to have fun. If I get laid then it's a bonus.

I have had women say they weren't going to sleep with me. We would mess around and stop, mess around and stop and then she ended up too horny and couldn't stop herself.

Maybe you are not getting to that stage?

I do remember you stating that you got with some stunners which was at least a partly attributed to your wealth. I don't understand how you can be so anti-money (in this debate) but say that it has helped you get with some beautiful women.

As soon as a girl says she's not sleeping with me, I know I'm getting laid that night.

I think my opinion is not coming across clearly. Money is awesome. It can be used to improve yourself i.e. private trainers, the best food for building mass, good clothes, free time for travel. It also puts you in places where the best girls would be. I did a charity event recently that was filled with VS type models. This is a great use of money, getting access. Where I disagree with others is using money more directly to win over a girl. In FlyBoy's example, he took a girl he only hooked up with a couple of times on an all expense paid vacation and gave her spending money. That's the part that hasn't worked for me. Just like you, I go out with my friends for a fun time not looking to hook up. If it happens great. But then I'm not leading with money, I'm just being myself. The more I lead with money, the worse my results seem to be.

[worldwidetraveler]

(01-01-2016 07:13 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

As soon as a girl says she's not sleeping with me, I know I'm getting laid that night.

I think my opinion is not coming across clearly. Money is awesome. It can be used to improve yourself i.e. private trainers, the best food for building mass, good clothes, free time for travel. It also puts you in places where the best girls would be. I did a charity event recently that was filled with VS type models. This is a great use of money, getting access. Where I disagree with others is using money more directly to win over a girl. In FlyBoy's example, he took a girl he only hooked up with a couple of times on an all expense paid vacation and gave her spending money. That's the part that hasn't worked for me. Just like you, I go out with my friends for a fun time not looking to hook up. If it happens great. But then I'm not leading with money, I'm just being myself. The more I lead with money, the worse my results seem to be.

Gotcha... I agree, those leading with money are probably not getting laid unless it's a transaction.

I tend to think this money vs game stuff makes the assumption that wealthy guys have no social skills and are leading with cash. Not always the case and certainly not something that most guys here would do.

[HankMoody]

(01-01-2016 07:24 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

(01-01-2016 07:13 PM)Gringuito Wrote:  

As soon as a girl says she's not sleeping with me, I know I'm getting laid that night.

I think my opinion is not coming across clearly. Money is awesome. It can be used to improve yourself i.e. private trainers, the best food for building mass, good clothes, free time for travel. It also puts you in places where the best girls would be. I did a charity event recently that was filled with VS type models. This is a great use of money, getting access. Where I disagree with others is using money more directly to win over a girl. In FlyBoy's example, he took a girl he only hooked up with a couple of times on an all expense paid vacation and gave her spending money. That's the part that hasn't worked for me. Just like you, I go out with my friends for a fun time not looking to hook up. If it happens great. But then I'm not leading with money, I'm just being myself. The more I lead with money, the worse my results seem to be.

Gotcha... I agree, those leading with money are probably not getting laid unless it's a transaction.

I tend to think this money vs game stuff makes the assumption that wealthy guys have no social skills and are leading with cash. Not always the case and certainly not something that most guys here would do.

My experience has been similar to Gringuito's.

Just to expound on one point - usually guys with both money and social skills don't lead with money. They don't have to. Their social skills get them girls, and they happen to have money.

[worldwidetraveler]

(01-01-2016 09:38 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

My experience has been similar to Gringuito's.

Just to expound on one point - usually guys with both money and social skills don't lead with money. They don't have to. Their social skills get them girls, and they happen to have money.

You should do a search on Hooligan Harry's posts. I would say his posts are probably the best written on the topic.

This argument seems to be a either or type of debate. Very seldom is anything black and white yet these types of debates seem to try and portray them as such.

This has been debated as much as the muscles versus Brad Pitt fight club physique.

I would never recommend a guy taking a girl on vacation or to concerts before banging. No matter how much cash you have. That still doesn't mean you can't leverage the idea of them being part of your lifestyle.

[HankMoody]

Something else to note...

The hot smuts who gravitate towards money are the worst. They'll fuck the YouTube "celebrity", the DJ, the MMA fighter, that Prince in Dubai, the Wall Street executive, and that really hot bartender. They correlate sex with money, power, and physical attraction. They're getting hit up from every avenue, just about all the time. These are the types of girls who are strippers, work in nightclubs, or identify as "Instagram models". Every dude with either a little bit of status or a few dollars in their wallet is trying to hit them up all the time. Will you get the bang? Sometimes. Assuming you want to keep her around, you're always on your guard. Status and money are easily replaceable commodities. One day the Wall Street banker's money is sexy, tomorrow she wants to fuck an MMA fighter. Somedays it's both.

Even if you can achieve some kind of ultra-alpha money or career status, is this the type of woman you really want to keep around? In my view, if you can't snag a girl with good conversation, walks in the park, and fun times, she just isn't worth your time. I'd rather snag a 7 or 8 on the regular, keep my money to myself, and have less to worry about. There are plenty of very good looking girls out there who don't need to shack up with Dan Bilzerian. They're looking for a guy who is reasonably fit and has social skills (read: game). Many of the hottest girls I know date some fairly unremarkable dudes.

Women should compliment your life, not be the center of it. Personally, I enjoy things like hiking, camping, and bike rides. Going to an after-hours party at a club where smuts snort coke off each other's ass isn't really my cup of tea, nor would I want to waste my time with a woman who's into that sort of thing. If you want to take these girls out for a steak dinner or on a private jet, more power to you.

But hey, it's your life, live it however you want to.

[worldwidetraveler]

(01-01-2016 09:59 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Something else to note...

The hot smuts who gravitate towards money are the worst. They'll fuck the YouTube "celebrity", the DJ, the MMA fighter, that Prince in Dubai, the Wall Street executive, and that really hot bartender. They correlate sex with money, power, and physical attraction. They're getting hit up from every avenue, just about all the time. These are the types of girls who are strippers, work in nightclubs, or identify as "Instagram models". Every dude with either a little bit of status or a few dollars in their wallet is trying to hit them up all the time. Will you get the bang? Sometimes. Assuming you want to keep her around, you're always on your guard. Status and money are easily replaceable commodities. One day the Wall Street banker's money is sexy, tomorrow she wants to fuck an MMA fighter. Somedays it's both.

Even if you can achieve some kind of ultra-alpha money or career status, is this the type of woman you really want to keep around? In my view, if you can't snag a girl with good conversation, walks in the park, and fun times, she just isn't worth your time. I'd rather snag a 7 or 8 on the regular, keep my money to myself, and have less to worry about. There are plenty of very good looking girls out there who don't need to shack up with Dan Bilzerian. They're looking for a guy who is reasonably fit and has social skills (read: game). Many of the hottest girls I know date some fairly unremarkable dudes.

Women should compliment your life, not be the center of it. Personally, I enjoy things like hiking, camping, and bike rides. Going to an after-hours party at a club where smuts snort coke off each other's ass isn't really my cup of tea, nor would I want to waste my time with a woman who's into that sort of thing. If you want to take these girls out for a steak dinner or on a private jet, more power to you.

But hey, it's your life, live it however you want to.

You're projecting now. You seem to have attracted those types of women when you unsuccessfully tried to use money and think everyone is doing the same thing.

You really think that virgin snow queen won't leave you if she gets bored? What you're talking about isn't about money but about the nature of women these days.

[Deepdiver]

LOL My net worth tied up in businesses and decent low 6 figure cash flow - the Gulfstream is way off and would likley use pros like Netjets - Was it JPG said "if it flies, floats or fucks - rent it".

Local town was quite unusually so. Was at my fave man cave NYE and seemed BeanTown was packed for 1st Night festivities reportedly 2 Million+ people from around New England invaded - no priceline deals and it was Amateur Night - so had a "Perdomo Reserve Champagne Sun Grown" cigar and a Scotch chaser and watched the ball drop... one of my Cigar pals a Rocker Alpha had his main rocker chic squeeze a solid 7.5 hairdresser show up - he and I were talking about some web projects I am working on and that I was advertising for fresh faces with a certain look... FGR or Fibonacci Golden Ratio sexy - no sooner than she heard that she whips out her iPhone and began showing me a bunch of modeling pics when she is in modeling mode (no winter baby phat) - I took pics of them together when the Times Square ball dropped on ABC and she suggested I get a pic with her that she can circulate to her girl friends... mainly young hot salon customers...

Turns out her father is high tech wealthy in tech services and she is looking for an opp so she can build a cash flow and not have to work forever... My rocker cigar pal is a good guy and ally but she realizes she will probably have to take the wealth building initiative like her father in their relationship. I have to go have a smoke with him to mend some man code issues as I am in no way interested in her - only her social circle and only the FGR lasses - Fibonacci Golden Ratio girls.

She offered to model but not my ideal and I do not waste time and effort on anything less than my ideal... so she asked me what I am looking for and I said young and talented - she started to press and I did not want to hurt anyone's feelings and just said I will know her when I see her (for the projects - or - for my wing woman)

Point is "interesting" trumped both age, my hideous nuclear sea beast appearance and money. Beauty and the Beast game.

Will probably give her my talent ads and have her talk it around for social circle validation game... will see what happens in the new year!

[BossOfBosses]

(01-01-2016 09:59 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

Something else to note...

The hot smuts who gravitate towards money are the worst. They'll fuck the YouTube "celebrity", the DJ, the MMA fighter, that Prince in Dubai, the Wall Street executive, and that really hot bartender. They correlate sex with money, power, and physical attraction. They're getting hit up from every avenue, just about all the time.

A lot of girls period will fuck a celebrity, Prince of Dubai or DJ regardless of how slutty you think she is or whether she fits into a certain "category". Women in general like status.

What are you priorities/goals? Is your goal to fuck as many hot women as possible? Find an LTR? I don't really see the problem with gold-diggers if all your gonna do is fuck and chuck them. If looking for a wife, then yeah, obviously different priorities women-wise but a chick being a gold digger is irrelevant if your just looking for pussy.

You sound like one of those guys "ashamed" of your wealth and try to act poor and hang around broke people to over-compensate and bad mouth the benefits of wealth. But being wealthy always beats poverty. Everytime.

I could show you study after study of over-whelming evidence that women of all ages, all around the world are turned on by dudes with money. In fact, it's the one of basis's of evolutionary psychology, which is the scientific underpinning of game.

[Dantes]

Interesting thread but we have been down this road before. I appreciate the insights from Hank and WIA. It is good to see Gringuito weighing in on this.

Game and money are not mutually exclusive.

You are dangerous with both and unstoppable if you add looks to the equation.

We have all heard stories about millionaire dweebs who can't get laid and we know broke ass bartenders who score hot pussy. What isn't mentioned, is these bartenders usually have the following: looks, game, status and/or social circle. Money, Game, Looks are all factors that can lead to getting laid.

Diminishing the impact that money has on a player's lifestyle is foolish. Try scoring consistent young, high quality pussy in your 40s and 50's without financial means. Game is vital when you are young and necessary when you age. For longevity in our chosen pastime, money becomes the salient factor.

[Vaun]

(01-02-2016 11:11 AM)Dantes Wrote:  

Diminishing the impact that money has on a player's lifestyle is foolish. Try scoring consistent young, high quality pussy in your 40s and 50's without financial means. Game is vital when you are young and necessary when you age. For longevity in our chosen pastime, money becomes the salient factor.

I would only disagree in that older men, 40+, need game as much if not more than younger men. Its easy to rely on money, and I think way too many men in this category imagine that getting women is easy when they have some money, and thats all it takes. And I know way too many older men with only money, who are more desperate than I was in high school. When lifestyle, health, financial and game is on lock, an older guy over 35 is unstoppable.

Most of this "seeking arraignment" game I think is the result of game-less pathetic older men, with money to burn. Half of the girls 18-22 on Tinder now are asking for a sugar daddy relationship. I think that dynamic is bigger than we imagine. Young women are not exclusively attracted to older men for money, in my experience. For an older guy I would say health, lifestyle and learning game are the most important factors. Guard your money with your life.