[Distant Light]

Money = Logistical Tool

- You can buy sex with money
- You can change locations (poosy paradises?)
- You can pay concerige-like services (Access & Proximity)

In the end, it comes down to the individual and his life goals. All the things stated above can be achieved with abit of presence and social intelligence...

However, it takes time and development which some are just too lazy to even do. Meanwhile some other guy drops 10k to indulge in a orgy with 4 hotties because he just wants his dick wet.

Overall, being someone who drastically transformed many times over. The CURRECY of being a fascinating man far outweighs any external factors. (I have had people offer me their apartments, free travel, opportunity offers, etc...However, I am not that type of guy to accept such things.)

If you're buying your way towards sex or leveraging your money...What will it mean for your friends? Your overall life? You are a slave to burning money to maintain some "playboy lifestyle" as a result while potentially being exploited. (I have personally watch my 3 friends ALMOST swindle a guy in spending $3k on bottles at 4:54am...6mins to drink...Same crew once got a guy to take them shopping $10k)

It always comes down to indivdual though...

Like my self made friend once said "Why waste time taking the subway saving $10 when it'll take you 30-40mins?"

However, that too depends because some people are just rushing from point A to B in there life just because they think thats THE LIFE....

For me personally its always bizarre hearing about HIGH LIFE and POP CULTURE because I am connected to it all indirectly due to the circles I am apart of...The IRONY, 99% of the people have more money than me...

Yea it would be awesome to do all sorts of cool shit in life BUT what is funny is...

Same guys thinking money will change everything. Is the same dude who is at city A doing nothing in the city...Only to travel to city B and DO NOTHING...

On the being level the guy will stay the same, he won't magically start being this awesome guy. Even if he banged 7 chicks in a week in amsterdam red light district...He still has to go back to his overall life which he has little influence over.

Overall MONEY IS FOR YOU to handle logistics for...
- The experiences you want to have
- The ease of your social life processes (Live in center of city, have alcohol, can afford random shit like a stripper pole or hot tub)
- The ease of CREATING EXPERIENCES with friends, family and potential new friends (At one UFC event my boy bought a whole pig and roasted it in the backyard...For one of their bdays we went to karaoke and they got my friend bottles)

While I personally learnt to be resourceful and leverage things socially. There is a certain threshold where MONEY surely could bypass diminishing returns of time wasted...

I once was hitting club late with gf...Took a $30 taxi because it would've taken about 1 Hour. Another time was with a huge group hitting another venue. To maintain the group vibe of 3 guys 9 girls we got a limo to drive us.

Thing is the intention behind it comes from a "had to handle logistics" or "enhancing the experience for all" rather than making some impression. If you wouldn't drop 1$k of bottles on a friend bday...Why do that with some random chicks? Thats how i see it...

[MaceTyrell]

Re-activating this thread.

Things actually start getting worse for a girl with me as I spend more money. Generally think money should be spent as a SMV improvement tool.

[rockoman]

Wasn't there some research showing that men who make more money increased their testosterone Levels?

Gives you the swagger to go out there and grab them by the pussy.

[bushcraft9]

How did the OP get that many likes, this is pre school knowledge of game. First and foremost hitting on girls when they haven't seen you yet is what will get you laid rather than after she has had the chance to seize you up. That moment will leave such a massive impression on her of you being a totally alpha male is what will stay in her mind as she thinks of you and will lead you to banging her senseless.

[polymath]

I've taken girls on trips pre-bang. In my experience it doesn't turn them off at all, and they are still ready and willing to sleep with me when the time comes. But I think that has more to do with them living in different countries from me. If we want to see each other, one/both of us has to travel, and it's more fun to go somewhere new together rather than re-convening in her city or mine.

I would love to have a girlfriend who is down to go visit places and sightsee and do all the other travel stuff I enjoy without complaining. Doesn't ask questions, just grabs her passport and comes with me. If a girl does all those things, I won't say "but we haven't banged so I won't spend money to buy her a ticket." For me, sex is important but it's not a prerequisite.

Aside from that I agree with everything OP said.

[jselysianeagle]

(02-10-2017 03:10 PM)polymath Wrote:  

If a girl does all those things, I won't say "but we haven't banged so I won't spend money to buy her a ticket." For me, sex is important but it's not a prerequisite.

Aside from that I agree with everything OP said.

You must either have money to waste or you probably just don't care enough about getting value for your hard earned money. Do you realize how ridiculously easy it is for a woman to just use you if you pay for her travel? I mean, what if you guys go some place exotic and she pulls some bullshit like refusing to put out, or offering at best lousy sex?

I dunno man...do what works for you I guess. As someone that's gotten burned in the past by prematurely spending on fancy dinner dates, I would never advise anyone to do what you do.

[torridon747]

Dimishing returns, and I mean serious diminishing returns. At least how that's I see it. I'm a broke ass dude to be frank, I never spend money on women unless I've fuckd them at least once it's a serious personal rule of mine that I'm sure has cock-blocked me at least once or twice.

There are plateaus. You want to have money for clothes and a car and a nice apartment so you have your shit together but other than that it's all game IMO. I just see it as a checklist women go down in their heads.

Like
✓ Not broke on welfare
✓ Has passable car
✓ Has social/work life
✓ Decent living space

I think you can bypass some of that stuff with some women with good game but things like that will disqualify you, at least they do me. Admittedly though I think it's because my game isn't good enough.

[polymath]

@jselysianeagle

I'm just sharing my perspective on the topic, not really asking for advice.

Most of my trips are to the third world (like many others here) and it makes me feel good when I take a girl from there to a fancy hotel in a worthwhile destination, the likes of which no other guy has ever taken her to. It makes me feel like I'm sharing the awe and wonder of traveling, which I personally enjoy.

I've never had a girl freeze me out in the bedroom on a trip. Frankly if all of her friends know she's going, and you're sharing a bed with her, then every expectation from her social group (and family) is that you're having sex anyway. Whether she does it at that point is just a matter of her own preference, and usually the excitement of traveling together translates to eagerness in the bedroom. At least, that has been my experience.

Would I do this if I were flat broke with no income? Nah. I come from a blue-collar household where I learned the value of a dollar. But I mean, look at it from my perspective. I work hard for my money so that I can save it and spend it how I want. Some guys go buy art; I take girlfriends on trips.

My view is that there is a difference between wasting money to impress a girl, and using money to facilitate fun experiences for the both of you together. And that justifies it for me.