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01-16-2016, 12:00 AM
Quote: (01-10-2016 11:01 PM)DavidBond Wrote:
Thanks, and its something I could do. However the vibe so far makes me feel like I'd just get banned. That and I love sharing stories with video. I'd rather SHOW what happend and what I learned, than type a big essay. That and even I wrote a big essay, I'd get banned for simply saying "i have a video of this" because that might be "promotion" - I don't feel like playing poster gymnastics.
This will be my last post.
Take care.
You're taking your ball home already? Controversial newbies always get their 'trial by fire'.
Have you even had any warnings yet? No, right? You wouldn't get banned for datasheets that include video (unless you didn't blur the girls faces), at most you would probably get warned if the host thought it had commercial intent.
Guess you just want attention, free of the discomfort of criticism and having to justify yourself.
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01-18-2016, 01:48 AM
^ Agreed. Your perspective is welcome here, whiteknightrises, and certainly a lot healthier than what Sebastian was spouting, but no need to apologize for him. As you said, he just seems like a bitter guy, but most of us here are clearheaded enough to know that's his own individual sticking point.
About the difference in tastes, you're right about the general taste in women just being very different. And yeah, it goes both ways because Western guys are often confused when an Asian thinks some average looking white broad is hot when to us she's anything but.
That being said, as a fellow Caucasian I will gladly support the notion that a lot of Westerners in SEA (as well as foreigners of other ethnicities) are just with shit-looking birds by anyone's standards and don't seem to realize it. Some of these are even young and handsome guys.
I don't really understand it, and I don't really care because it just leaves more good-looking ones for those of us with common sense. What I do resist, however, is the notion that all guys who go to Asia are somehow deficient just by the simple act of being here - or that East Asians have some God-given authority to, in the words of Seb, "look DOWN" on Southeast Asians and that the rest should follow suit or be labeleted "beta."
Many of the stereotypes of guys here may be true, as others have pointed out, but pretending it's the whole story is just intellectually dishonest and is becoming a scapegoat for Asian men (you obviously not included) who just want to mask their bitterness.
I think the world is changing, though, and more balanced viewpoints are becoming more of a norm in the region. The demographic mix of foreign men here is also developing more balance. I think it was last year an article came out in a mainstream publication in Thailand commenting on a bunch of local experts acknowledging a growing trend of marriages between successful young foreign men and local women of means. The surprise expressed by the article was a bit comical, but it shows a growing awareness that things are no longer black and white.
Unless world progress gets slammed backwards, I can't see classism in Asia lasting forever, at least not in such an extreme form.
One thing I've always commented on since I first moved to Southeast Asia, though, is how interesting it will be to watch how mixed breed children in the poor classes, especially from the cities, leverage their background as they grow older. Until recently, it has mostly been poorer women mingling with foreign men - and not just the degenerates. Go to a local church, for example, and the prevalance of mixed couples is staggering. Visiting businessmen and those here for other non-sexpat reasons also often walk away or settle in with a local bride.
And this is creating a unique segment of the population that has a mixed cultural background, solid connections, great English skills, and positive cultural traits from the East and the West.
Families are joined, creating an increasing number of poor people claiming they have a brother or cousin or uncle from the States or wherever, and even those who merely establish friendships or biz partnerships with foreigners tend to be from the lower to lower mid classes.
Meanwhile, at least some of the moneyed population grows evermore distant and xenophobic, as witnessed in places like Bangkok, where much of the population has grown weary of the foreign presence (understandably so).
It will be interesting to see how that evolves the culture in later years and whether it will lend swaths of the lower classes who are eagerly mingling with foreigners some type of competitive advantage in a more globalized world. Perhaps that same dynamic will play out in greater Asia as well - only time can tell.
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01-18-2016, 02:04 AM
Haha yeah I'm just embarrassed that there are people like that.
Also, re: Asian immigration I guess it depends but generally the Asians you meet in the US (at least Koreans from what I know) won't be moneyed Asians but people who couldn't make it in Asia for whatever reason (class, uneducated, etc). I personally know and grew up with a lot of Koreans whose parents combined probably ran all the nail salons, dry cleaners, and delis in the NY/NJ metropolitan area.
Also, don't forget illegal immigration! Not just Mexicans/Latin-Americans that do this.
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04-05-2017, 04:27 AM
It's hard to put yourself out there in videos as a public pua. You need to be sensational to grab attention these days.
Regardless of right or wrong I feel guys like Julien Blanc get it from all sides. One little part of his many many videos was clearly inappropriate and over the line.
He got hounded everywhere and goaded into being overly defensive. Then finally apologized too late and his life and career are ruined.
I've watched parts of the same Blanc videos where he gives very solid and appropriate advice about treating women with respect and showing restraint. Of course that never got taken into account.
It's easy to demonize people over one thing or another. Hard to analyze their entire catalogue of material and understand their purpose and message. Things get polarized. People pick sides. Egos are bruised.
I essentially forgot about game for years until that whole Blanc thing erupted in Japan. Girls I opened were asking me if I was a pickup artist or knew who Julien Blanc was. Ironically this made me think huh, I better learn some game quick.
It quickly died down. On subsequent trips no one has ever bothered me about it. Other guys living there said they never noticed a hiccup at all.
These controversies aren't good. They inevitably happen from time to time. I personally try to avoid getting swept up in anything that appears trendy or niche. I don't even like paying attention to it. I'm too busy reading my guidebook and trying to meet people.
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04-10-2017, 11:28 AM
Anyone have any experience with India? I have a friend (white, slightly above average) who claims to be slaying there. The pictures he's sent me... wow...
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04-10-2017, 12:26 PM
Man you guys aren't thinking many steps out are you?
Anyway, perhaps DavidBond can tell us how his brash in-your-face-everybody! form of Asia pickup is going.
As an aside its so amusing to hear women talk about "are you a pickup artist" or "are you doing nampa?" etc. Why else would dudes talk to you? To get advice on acquiring capital for their next business venture?
If random dudes are talking to you for no specific reason, the specific reason is they want to eventually insert their dick into you. Any calling out of that fact is just smug contempt and subtle humble bragging that you're above it all.
Its kind of like the word "creep" in a way. They'll ask a guy who isn't attractive enough these questions as part of a rejection, but they won't if he is attractive enough.