[ReAnimated]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it but apparently the director of Sicario, Denis Villeneuve, is directing a sequel to Blade Runner. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1856101/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1

Blade Runner is one of the best films ever made, even with the director of a film feminists hate I think a sequel is a bad idea.

[Mentavious]

I guess I was expecting a blood bath. Some kind of resolve. The plot kept building and building and turned out to be nothing. They didn't show if doing all this was even worth it

A girl sent that to me after watching it.

Just goes to show you some girls have no fucking clue.

[SudoRoot]

Watched it yesterday and I think it's pretty great. Emily Blunt Plays this female cop, who is constantly asking:"What's going on guys?. What are you guys doing? Can I Play with you guys? I want to do something good. Will we catch the bad guys."
But Del Toro and Brolin just don't tell her shit until Close to the end. They act with her like a child (which is a good handling of the modern womans annoying persona). SPOILER AHEAD: The best Scene is, when she finally cant take it anymore and confronts Del Toro, by aiming at him with her gun, wanting answers. He donates a couple of round against her Body armour and tells her:"Take a breath. And don't you ever raise a gun against me."

This movie was Money!

[monster]

Just watched this on the advice of this thread.

The movie sucks.

The characters have no likability - even with awesome actors like Josh Brolin & Benecio Del Toro - the script jumps around and has little congruency. Sure enough a quick view of imdb indicates this is the first screenplay this guy has written, and it shows. The writer put all sorts of weird shit in there with no bearing on anything - for example, a bunch of dead bodies stored behind drywall. All you know is their kidnapping victims and that's it. Little relevancy to the rest of the movie.

The two idealistic "rookies" are annoying as hell, constantly questioning the motives of their special ops for the entire 2 hrs of the movie. I could understand some scenes of questioning the special ops motives but not for the entire movie. Absolutely no character development in any of the characters throughout the whole movie.

Then the dialogue - the dialogue was poor even for a B movie. "Step away from him right now. I mean it. Or I'll shoot." The dialogue runs through every B-movie cliche and platitude.

I can only think that other posters on this thread like the movie simply because feminists hate it. Simply because someone you don't like hates something doesn't automatically mean you should love it.

Two thumbs down from me

[NFallin]

Part of the greatness of this film was not spelling everything out for the viewer.

When I first watched it yeah the girl and partner were annoying asking so many questions but they didn't know what the hell was going on and neither did you for a while. The whole point of the bodies was to convey that ruthless cartel violence was at home in the united states and the big boys needed to step in.

Josh Brolin was great as the cocky asshole operating at a high level pulling shady shit. Benicio didn't need to have his life story plastered all over the screen. We were given tidbits of intrigue to imagine the awful insanity this man had to endure to transform into a cold blooded hitman. As a man once of the law he was now willing to kill for any country as long as he had his own justice.

The cruise in and around juarez. The shootout at the border crossing. The special forces raid at the end. Benicio's chilling moment with the family. The utter ruthlessness of his character with the female protagonist at the end to get what he wanted. This movie was awesome.

Monster you're way off target.

[brick tamland]

I've just seen SICARIO.

I haven't watched a mainstream release of this calibre in ages.

No spoilers to give away, in the spirit of this thread.

The cinematography is top notch. the pacing is very good. it doesn't feel like a 2 hour motion picture.

MOST IMPORTANTLY - the secret is they do not try too hard to tell the story, neither did they start with an overwrought script. thus the viewer is left to ponder some questions such as:
Is Mexico really that dangerous and WHAT IS THE WAR ON DRUGS REALLY ABOUT?

The most poignant parts of the picture usually involve the experiences of the lead female as she tries to fit into the new unit and comes in with principles and ideals (a preference for following procedure). However within the ultimate operation she becomes part of, she soon discovers within the unit firstly blurred lines, then gray areas and then ... (just watch the movie).

She's the sole female and literally the weakest member of the unit.

How does she cope (or not) when sh*t hits the fan?

The answer to the latter question is what irked the feminists.

[Mr Finish]

Hell or high water
A movie with the same writer looks promising

[Latinopan]

Good breakdown of how tension is built in the highway scene.

He says what I said before, Blunt character is there to represent the audience.

[CynicalContrarian]

(09-14-2016 03:26 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

He says what I said before, Blunt character is there to represent the audience.

Or a character that the more mainstream audience can more readily relate to.
As opposed to the military type audience.

[Latinopan]

(09-15-2016 04:22 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(09-14-2016 03:26 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  

He says what I said before, Blunt character is there to represent the audience.

Or a character that the more mainstream audience can more readily relate to.
As opposed to the military type audience.

Yes, all movies need some character that gets expositions during the movie, so the audience can understand what is going on.

[The Black Knight]

Great movie. Saw this not too long ago and I highly recommend it.

The whole Juarez bit had me on edge like a motherfucker.

[Easy_C]

Also, last time I checked the movie is available for Amazon Prime subscribers.

[Guriko]

This is what I liked most about the film - scenes like this.

Showing it like it is.
Telling it like it is.
No bullshit.

No super heroine crap where a 120 pound woman can take on multiple 240+ pound men by kicking them into their chest as they are wearing body armor.

Woman have no place in active combat situations.

For their own sakes.
And ours.

[Meat Head]

Just saw this movie. I fell asleep in the middle. I was expecting Narcos but it was pretty boring.

[budoslavic]

SICARIO 2: SOLDADO - Official Teaser Trailer

[Suits]

^^^^^If the trailer accurately represents that film (and isn't just the film that the director wishes he made), this movie may succeed at correcting everything that was wrong and boring about the first film.

[LeBeau]

(12-19-2017 11:19 PM)Suits Wrote:  

^^^^^If the trailer accurately represents that film (and isn't just the film that the director wishes he made), this movie may succeed at correcting everything that was wrong and boring about the first film.

Care to enlighten us?

I was under the impression most forum members (and non SJW critics) thought this was a great movie on many levels.

[blck]

(12-20-2017 01:54 AM)LeBeau Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 11:19 PM)Suits Wrote:  

^^^^^If the trailer accurately represents that film (and isn't just the film that the director wishes he made), this movie may succeed at correcting everything that was wrong and boring about the first film.

Care to enlighten us?

I was under the impression most forum members (and non SJW critics) thought this was a great movie on many levels.

+1, I, too, really want to know what you find boring in Sicario

[sterling_archer]

Or it might completely flop as it's well known fact that sequel to already great movie is hard to do.

[Chowder Head]

Wrong and boring? Suits is the worst film critic on this forum. He thought Ghostbusters was a cinematic masterpiece. And he can't wait to see Oceans 8.

[Suits]

Sicario had some of the coolest action sequences I've ever seen. However, there was a lull in the middle of the film that kind of put me, and apparently some of other people, to sleep.

I absolutely loved the depiction of the special forces guys. Borderline nerdy, with no silly tough guy dialogue.

The plot makes perfect sense and the assassin dude is super awesome.

But the middle act of the film is really, really slow.

And what's wrong about the film? I know you guys loved seeing the bitch getting put in her place, but I could of done with her having far less screen time. Preferably none. With all the awesome characters, the film would have been a masterpiece without her.

[budoslavic]

Had to check for any negative reactions in the news on anything related to Emily Blunt not appearing or lack of women's roles in Sicario 2's new trailer.

Sure enough...like a little bitch, this White Knight with too much soy in his system had this to say about the Sicario 2 Trailer (via Forbes).

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'Sicario 2' Trailer: No Emily Blunt, Almost No Women At All

Say what you will about The Huntsman: Winter's War, but at least that film kicked Kristen Stewart out of her own Snow White franchise and surrounded Chris Hemsworth's Huntsman with Jessica Chastain, Emily Blunt and a returning Charlize Theron. Now Emily Blunt has been kicked out of the Sicario sequel so that it can focus on the male co-leads (box office dynamos Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro). And, regardless of what the Code Black-produced movie is or is not, the first trailer features exactly three moments with any female characters and zero moments where those women speak.

We get two glimpses of Catherine Keener looking very serious and one fleeting shot of a young woman (presumably top-billed female Isabela Moner) hiding under a car and crying while manly men like Del Toro and Brolin wage war against the Mexican drug cartels. It's no secret that I've been... displeased with the choices on this one, since the writer Taylor Sheridan was discussing an Emily Blunt-free sequel since before the first Sicario even opened. Like Snow White and the Huntsman, this female-led genre film was being discussed in terms of its franchise potential without the actual female lead before it even opened, as if its top-billed star was as disposable as if she were merely the tag-along girl or would-be love interest.

The Huntsman: Winter's War was a big whiff for Universal/Comcast Corp. last year ($165 million worldwide, compared to $394m in 2012 for Snow White), and I am not surprised that Lionsgate dropped this Sicario sequel. They surely knew that a big part of Sicario's appeal, both in terms of free media and outright audience interest, was its existence as a grim, violent action thriller that just happened to star someone like Blunt instead of Ryan Gosling or Garret Hedland. And now, come what may, the sequel will be just another macho action thriller, absent any real "event movie" status. The message in this kind of thinking is clear: women are disposable and interchangeable commodities even in their own vehicles and would-be franchises.

And even their triumphs can merely stepping stones for their male co-stars to get their own spin-offs or unrelated star vehicles, as its Fault in Our Stars/Divergent star Ansel Elgort, not Fault in Our Stars/Divergent star Shailene Woodley, who got to headline Baby Driver this summer. So, in that context, it is amusing to see Soldado, which looks like a polished and potentially gripping actioner, being sold as a stereotypical manly adventure movie, where the women are either in distress, there to monitor the boys or utterly absent.

I have no idea what role Moner plays in the proceedings, but it is somewhat symbolic that 34-year old Blunt essentially got replaced in her own sequel by a (very talented) 16-year old actress best known for Transformers: The Last Knight and 100 Things to Do Before High School. Anyway, Soldado may be good (Sony's other Code Black pick-up, Only the Brave, was terrific, even if it predictably flopped earlier this year), and Blunt seems to be doing just fine. But it is telling that a sequel to a female-led actioner that earned $85 million worldwide on a $30m budget gets a trailer that barely has any women at all.

Sicario 2: Soldado opens June ,29 2018. As always, we'll see.

In other words, masculinity is toxic.

[Easy_C]

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I absolutely loved the depiction of the special forces guys. Borderline nerdy, with no silly tough guy dialogue.

That's what they're actually like. You'd be surprised how many SF groups run regular Dungeons and Dragons games.

[kmhour]

Quote:

Say what you will about The Huntsman: Winter's War, but at least that film kicked Kristen Stewart out of her own Snow White franchise and surrounded Chris Hemsworth's Huntsman with Jessica Chastain, Emily Blunt and a returning Charlize Theron. Now Emily Blunt has been kicked out of the Sicario sequel so that it can focus on the male co-leads (box office dynamos Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro). And, regardless of what the Code Black-produced movie is or is not, the first trailer features exactly three moments with any female characters and zero moments where those women speak.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(12-20-2017 10:24 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Sicario had some of the coolest action sequences I've ever seen. However, there was a lull in the middle of the film that kind of put me, and apparently some of other people, to sleep.

I absolutely loved the depiction of the special forces guys. Borderline nerdy, with no silly tough guy dialogue.

The plot makes perfect sense and the assassin dude is super awesome.

But the middle act of the film is really, really slow.

And what's wrong about the film? I know you guys loved seeing the bitch getting put in her place, but I could of done with her having far less screen time. Preferably none. With all the awesome characters, the film would have been a masterpiece without her.

I think the presence of the straight-laced thinks-she-tough-but-turns-out-she's-not chick gives an important frame of reference to the movie

Without her it would have been another blase "guys run around shooting stuff" film. We become so jaded to the realities of those situations that without some sort of alternative reference point it becomes completely vanilla.

Having the woman in that film floundering like a fish out water while the operators around her swum like sharks was precisely the whole point of the film. You need to have clean-cut in order to properly portray murky.