LTR fans. Debate about the ultimate feasibility of taming a woman, do unicorns exist
12-16-2015, 10:14 PM
So the first thread I made on this was shite, so I've broken this up into a separate thread. I'd like to hear from some old guard here that actually do LTRs and have gone long (had kids).
I've put things under the microscope and at a theoretical level, I'm unsure that a woman can actually be sufficiently trained or tamed to be a proper wife.
Everyone knows one or a few "red pill women." These are what I consider unicorns. The idea of a woman that will never leave you is preposterous, that blue pill fantasy is bullshit. That idea of a unicorn is false.
But really putting successful families and LTRs under a microscope, what I see is a woman that willingly submits and has a natural inclination to please a man. And that, with a proper man, makes leading easy but also creates natural incentives for him to want to please her in the same way. Both genders strive to be their best selves.
I have, I think worked nearly as close I can get to having a woman perfectly charmed who did not have a natural desire to please a man. I've been SMV10 to her at times, but she's never taken an active role in greasing the wheels or making things work better.
In this case, a woman without this innate desire (which I assume is instilled by her father and the relationship between them), is required at all times to be charmed, tamed or figuratively beaten into submission. To let down your guard is to let her consume you and for her to ruin the family. How long you can be drunk at the wheel depends on how intense she is, and how many options she has.
What I've seen with women with this natural desire to please is a significant increase in the time one can be drunk at the wheel, less friction and much lower failure rates.
I think I'm close to finding the answer here, but I'm curious to find out. I've got about 6 months to a year before I can say that a woman can ultimately be tamed and changed. Alchemy of sorts.
The leverage or dread here seems to be creating the ultimate nuclear family. Once you get that in order proper, dread isn't that you have options (and you should) but that family is what you give her for her willing submission and interest in pleasing you, actively. That when she stops bringing her a-game, you have friends to catch up with instead of time to go to the zoo.
This doesn't mean she lacks independence, but instead considers that aside from her duty to please, just as your duty is to be the masculine force in her life and the silverback patriarch to your children.
Right now I have some resistance that she feels as though she's going to shed her actual being. I'm playing with the devil's core right now. I'm being very careful and trying to consult some people that have a better background in nuclear physics while I sit here playing with a screwdriver.
I've put things under the microscope and at a theoretical level, I'm unsure that a woman can actually be sufficiently trained or tamed to be a proper wife.
Everyone knows one or a few "red pill women." These are what I consider unicorns. The idea of a woman that will never leave you is preposterous, that blue pill fantasy is bullshit. That idea of a unicorn is false.
But really putting successful families and LTRs under a microscope, what I see is a woman that willingly submits and has a natural inclination to please a man. And that, with a proper man, makes leading easy but also creates natural incentives for him to want to please her in the same way. Both genders strive to be their best selves.
I have, I think worked nearly as close I can get to having a woman perfectly charmed who did not have a natural desire to please a man. I've been SMV10 to her at times, but she's never taken an active role in greasing the wheels or making things work better.
In this case, a woman without this innate desire (which I assume is instilled by her father and the relationship between them), is required at all times to be charmed, tamed or figuratively beaten into submission. To let down your guard is to let her consume you and for her to ruin the family. How long you can be drunk at the wheel depends on how intense she is, and how many options she has.
What I've seen with women with this natural desire to please is a significant increase in the time one can be drunk at the wheel, less friction and much lower failure rates.
I think I'm close to finding the answer here, but I'm curious to find out. I've got about 6 months to a year before I can say that a woman can ultimately be tamed and changed. Alchemy of sorts.
The leverage or dread here seems to be creating the ultimate nuclear family. Once you get that in order proper, dread isn't that you have options (and you should) but that family is what you give her for her willing submission and interest in pleasing you, actively. That when she stops bringing her a-game, you have friends to catch up with instead of time to go to the zoo.
This doesn't mean she lacks independence, but instead considers that aside from her duty to please, just as your duty is to be the masculine force in her life and the silverback patriarch to your children.
Right now I have some resistance that she feels as though she's going to shed her actual being. I'm playing with the devil's core right now. I'm being very careful and trying to consult some people that have a better background in nuclear physics while I sit here playing with a screwdriver.