[swezla]

Hey guys,

I recently started graduate school and due to me kind of dominating the discussions in class and being more or less the center of attention and projecting alpha male traits, the girls have been eager to talk to me, and I am particularly interested in one of the girls who happens to be a solid 8.

We have been flirting, all of the signals of interest are there, and I have gradually escalated in terms of kino. I also vary this with being aloof at other times. The reason why I am in no rush to seal the deal is because I get an opportunity to see her a few times a week, so I don't have to rush anything, and I think that by dragging the process out, making her question the level of my interest, I might deepen her level of infatuation. I also enjoy the process; it's genuinely more fun this way.

How does this square with the window of opportunity theory? Does it not apply in a situation where you get to see the person regularly and have an opportunity to deepen the connection and infatuation level? My experience has been that the girls who are most into me are the ones that feel they've been friend zoned by me. I usually go by gut feeling with these things, and the more I get to see a girl and continue to game her, I haven't really experienced this problem of missed windows of opportunity, as long as I continue gaming her and don't fuck up by for instance talking about emotions. In other words, dragging out the process has worked out well previously.

So, again, is the window of opportunity theory not always applicable?

[WestIndianArchie]

Window of opportunity usually refers to non-social circle situations.

This chick is in your social circle.
What you need to be more worried about is whether there's a guy outside of the circle that recognizes that she's an "8" and doesn't pussy foot around.

He's actually at an advantage, because his objectives are clear, and doesn't have any of the social constraints that you have.

But you have constraints.

Where you're sort of locked in.

You could get with this girl now, but chances are high that it would become knowledge within the grad school - which may or may not kill your chances with other chicks in the grad school.

The other thing here is that if you're in a grad program, you've probably got access to UNDERGRADS, especially the ones that you don't TA.

Also, whatever game you think you're playing with her expectations - she might not see the situation the same way. I wouldn't depend on her feeling a certain way because you're only flirting and not trying to seal the deal.

Play the game you feel comfortable with, because you can't depend on her to feel the same way.

You're basically in a can't lose situation overall. But if you decide to cash in, you may lose some of your pull.

The real power move here is to secret society the chick. Get with her on the low and keep it on the low. This way you can still operate in class and outside of class.

"It'll be our little secret".

That means she might be getting her box stuffed on the side...but honestly you never know, she could be fucking your professor and still has eyes for young meat as well.

WIA

(12-06-2015 06:06 PM)swezla Wrote:  

Hey guys,


How does this square with the window of opportunity theory? Does it not apply in a situation where you get to see the person regularly and have an opportunity to deepen the connection and infatuation level? My experience has been that the girls who are most into me are the ones that feel they've been friend zoned by me. I usually go by gut feeling with these things, and the more I get to see a girl and continue to game her, I haven't really experienced this problem of missed windows of opportunity, as long as I continue gaming her and don't fuck up by for instance talking about emotions. In other words, dragging out the process has worked out well previously.

So, again, is the window of opportunity theory not always applicable?

[swezla]

Thanks!

Could you elaborate on what you mean by can't lose situation, since it seems to clash a bit with your earlier statement about being locked in?

[GlobalMan]

As WIA says, as soon as some other dude puts his dick in her your window could slam shut on yours.

Don't artificially drag it out in the hopes to create some sort of faux intrigue- just progress as naturally as you can in a timely fashion. You say you've had success from dragging things out in the past- I'd bet a healthy sum they were attracted to you far sooner in interactions, girls very quickly know if they would bang you or not, the dragging it out didn't decide that. It was just fun to do.

An 8 doesn't hang out for weeks or months waiting for some classmate to do something.

I personally wouldn't worry about whoever may or may not find out about this in your grad school.

[olive]

Theory is to reach state of being in control & enjoying things. It appears you've reached this state already. Too much theory can only harm you at this state so stop worrying and go with your instincts.

It is true if you don't pull the trigger (for whatever self-justified rationale) some other dude will.

If this is gonna be a bummer stop messing about and seal the deal.

If it's not gonna be a problem (honestly) sure keep messing about.

[swezla]

Update: I decided was gonna ask her out, but she beat me to it. She wants me to come over to her place for drinks.

Is there any material out there on long game and social circle game theory? This case is more or less locked down, and I agree that focusing on theory at this point will only spoil it, but I am interested in it for academic reasons, so to speak, since this method is the one I like the most.

[PapayaTapper]

(12-09-2015 11:34 AM)swezla Wrote:  

Update: I decided was gonna ask her out, but she beat me to it. She wants me to come over to her place for drinks.

Is there any material out there on long game and social circle game theory? This case is more or less locked down, and I agree that focusing on theory at this point will only spoil it, but I am interested in it for academic reasons, so to speak, since this method is the one I like the most.

Don't ever assume it's locked down until you're balls deep and about to blow. This forum is littered with stories about "man I thought it was a done deal...and nothing"

Forget long game. Treat this as if it is your only opportunity to hit it because it likely will be. My suggestion is to have two drinks, sexual-ize the conversation with subtlety then escalate like a motherfucker. Do not leave there without banging her or her at least knowing your intentions to fuck her brains out. If she invited you over to her place and you don't make a move then you're better off saying "I'm a fag, lets be friends" because that will be consistent with how she views you after.

Long game? If you do get in her pants just make sure you give her your A game dicking. Even that's no guarantee you'll get it again but it does improve your odds

[swezla]

Obviously at this point there is no more long game. Up to this point it was, however. I'm asking about social circle/long game in general now.

[olive]

You're in a real good spot that's great news.
What's on your mind with re social theory / long game?

Any specific questions?

[PapayaTapper]

(12-09-2015 12:44 PM)swezla Wrote:  

Obviously at this point there is no more long game. Up to this point it was, however. I'm asking about social circle/long game in general now.

Social circle? Simple.

Social circles consist of dudes and chicks Right?

First of all you can completely "delete" all the dudes in your social circle when it comes to game. You aren't going to bang them and unless they're a world class wing they won't a chicks legs up while you're banging a her (metaphorically)

The chicks? Nothing, with the exception of fame, I repeat nothing, helps your "long game" like banging a hot chick and other hot chicks knowing about it.

[swezla]

No specific question really, I'm just interested if anyone has written about this in depth. I'm thinking of seduction over a longer period of time. In a sense, I guess that Robert Greene's book which I read a few years ago kind of covers that.

Anyway, thanks for the replies guys. I feel confident and comfortable at this stage with this girl. Might give a further update later if anyone is interested.

[olive]

cool. good luck on your true path and yeas please do post... always good to have a follow up msg or picture of kids if you're gonna seduce THAT long

[XXL]

To me it's absolutely applicable also in your situation.

You can drag the process out all you want but when finally you make a move to end up together in private place and escalate you will have to jump through that open window of opportunity. If you fail when she's ready for you she might be very disappointed by you and very likely will lose attraction toward you.

Also, social circle or not remember that the window doesn't stay open forever. Now you might feel safe and cool cause the girl is into you and patiently waits for you to make a move [or hopes for it]. But that will pass. She won't wait forever. She can get tired of waiting or some other guy will steal her from you.

Window of opportunity is when you and the girl are both ready for sex. Reading her cues and pulling the trigger is the right move.

Click the link in my signature for social circle game tips

[Libertas]

If a girl is coming on to you this strong you take command and escalate fast. She already opened the door so there's nothing socially inappropriate or anything and if you're looking to bang other girls your pre-selection is now known. Just make sure you don't end the relationship in whatever form that may be on bad terms.

Too much theory fucks with your game.

[Prof. Ligate]

I stole a girl straight from a social circle at a bar recently. A recently turned 18 German backpacker who had been working with this Brazilian guy (and others) for 3 months and was out for drinks.

The dude she was with went to the bathroom or something and I slid in. Approached... isolated... and then took home - all in a matter of 30 minutes.

Seal the deal swiftly before someone else does.

[swezla]

Thanks guys!

[heavy]

This thread title along with part of WIA's response made me think about windows of opporpoonity regarding strangers, acquaintances, social circles, etc...

- You don't want to be a stranger...then she's not even aware of you
- You don't want to be a friend or the guy who's really great friends with everyone in the social circle...you're too central to the group so she can't just fuck you, she'll either date you right away or you're friend-zoned
- You want to be know to the social circle, but on the fringe. No one really knows everything going on in your life.