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Why are liberals so out of touch with reality?
12-02-2015, 04:32 AM
A liberal is someone who goes by how the world should be, in the land of the ideal. It is why young people and women tend towards it. It is a natural emotional response to say that everyone should have free medical care, or that everyone should be accepted as long as the hurt noone, etc. Notice the near-child-like quality of those arguments. They sound so innocent and carefree.
Conservatism is red-pill. It is hard around the edges. It comes from a life of roughness and mistakes, and realizing that the world is a fucked up place with many harsh realities that need to be accepted. This kind of approach is far more masculine, just feel the toughness of it. A woman is not set out for that. Women (or the male equivalent of a woman, manlets) and children (the young) can afford to be carefree, men cannot.
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12-03-2015, 05:27 PM
Because their religious instincts have been hacked and the traditional religion replaced with ideology that's been reinforced since birth. They create a social-shaming cycle to prevent wrongthink and constantly reinforce their own bullshit while proselytizing to everyone else.
I'd also say that their threat detection instinct is usually either hacked or nonexistent. For instance, it takes a complete defective to believe that white Americans are a bigger terrorist threat than ISIS.
Naturally, some people will be spared that nonsense or it just won't take because they're wired differently. Others will fall victim to it, only to later come out of the fog because the cognitive dissonance simply becomes too much to bear. I've talked with a couple of former leftists who told me they just couldn't take the dissonance anymore.
A lot of people, however, have an incredible capacity to delude themselves into believing their own bullshit no matter what the facts are. They become socially and emotionally invested to the point where nothing short of being mugged by reality will jar them from their delusion. By then it's usually too late.
Another observation I've made is that exposing them to facts that contradict what they believe cause them mental and emotional stress. They don't like it and they can't argue for shit, so they either try to derail the argument via fallacy, accusing you of being evil or just censoring you. This is the reason for the "safe space" nonsense.
"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18
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12-03-2015, 11:37 PM
I agree with horseshoe theory. I have to say at this point it is the extreme left that has way more social and cultural power in the West though. Extreme right-wing people are typically seen as loonies and aren't taken seriously by anyone while the opinions of teenage girls with neon colored hair on Tumblr ARE actually being seen as worthy of consideration. The extreme right simply doesn't have a voice today except on certain far off corners of the Internet while extreme feminists/race trolls/LGBT activists and such actually get a podium to disseminate their message.
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Why are liberals so out of touch with reality?
12-04-2015, 01:35 AM
Its a cultural problem, many of these kids are sheltered and surrounded by these ideologies. I saw two guys fighting because one accused another of not being PC enough.Most people adopt the values of the culture they live in.
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12-04-2015, 01:47 AM
That sounds like something out of a South Park episode.
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12-04-2015, 02:46 AM
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Yep.
Would have been a great moment to ask which one is pussy crushin' more.
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12-04-2015, 12:00 PM
Agree with the posters who equate extreme left and extreme right. The extreme left is certainly a powerful force (possibly because liberalism has always been popular), but they're not calling for political deaths, culling the population, purgings, glorification of past racist policies, etc, that's some messed up stuff. They just bitch and moan, ridicule, and protest.
If the rule of law breaks down it doesn't matter who's holding the guns, communists or fascist, the end result looks eerelie similar.
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12-04-2015, 12:56 PM
I dunno, some "liberals" can be "alpha". Take a guy currently in the news: Rahm Emmanuel. He's a leftist scumbag but he also seems thoroughly Machiavellian.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
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12-04-2015, 01:02 PM
Horseshoe theory, interesting, but it gives the left too much credibility as both sides of the horse shoe are the same length.
In fact, pretending a political spectrum of right and left exists is also giving them too much credibility.
I don't like people who always try to sit on the fence by saying "oh well they're all bad", "all politicians are corrupt" all those moderate sayings.
They think they're being level headed, rational and smart, by always staying in the middle and equally distrusting everyone and everything, but really they're being ignorant and fearful of taking the 'wrong' side.
Just because you've chosen an extreme position, definitely does not make you wrong, just like choosing a moderate position does not make you right.
These sort of people seem to be really common. I think I was probably one of them before I started to educate myself and become more aware of the world.
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12-04-2015, 02:55 PM
I agree, Hitler was left economically. But many place him on the right due to his nationalist policies.
My point though is to ignore the extremes and look at the average Left v. average Right voter in the USA.
The average Right just wants a smaller govt., more freedoms, and more opportunity. This is based on the realities of life.
The average Left wants more govt. and wants to believe that this time it will not magically end up like every other socialist and/or communist 3rd world shithole.
The average Right is based in reality. The average Left today is based in feminism, SJW, and magical free things. It isn't based in reality.
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12-04-2015, 03:05 PM
No one can agree on what constitutes left and right and there is no end all be all body to determine these things. To a progressive, a conservative is one step below a National Socialist. To a conservative, a National Socialist is on the left. To a lot of lolbertarians there is a four sided political spectrum instead of two.
It's stupid and meaningless to bicker about. Whether an ideology is destructive or not is what matters. The current fashionable brand of suicidal multicultural progressivism is destructive. A nation can survive its people tinkering with socialism as long as it's monocultural. If it doesn't work for them they can simply tweak it like the Scandinavian countries did by implementing market reforms back a couple decades ago.
A nation cannot survive its people being displaced or replaced, however. A nation is its people. Flood Sweden with Muslims tomorrow and it ceases to be Sweden, but instead becomes the Northern Islamic Caliphate of Whatever The Fuck.
"Men willingly believe what they wish." - Julius Caesar, De Bello Gallico, Book III, Ch. 18