Quote: (12-05-2015 07:50 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2015 12:14 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote:
Quote: (12-04-2015 12:00 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:
Agree with the posters who equate extreme left and extreme right. The extreme left is certainly a powerful force (possibly because liberalism has always been popular), but they're not calling for political deaths, culling the population, purgings, glorification of past racist policies, etc, that's some messed up stuff. They just bitch and moan, ridicule, and protest.
If the rule of law breaks down it doesn't matter who's holding the guns, communists or fascist, the end result looks eerelie similar.
This is getting off what I think the intent of the topic is. Of course the extreme on both sides is awful. Whether it is Hitler on the right or Stalin/Mao on the left, both are equally awful.
I think the discussion is more about the current modern day main stream liberal living in the west. The people who subscribe to...
- "Free" healthcare. Nothing is free, even children understand this.
- Gun control. Placing all faith in a govt. that cannot get anything right to magically protect you at all times.
- Open borders, just let anyone and everyone invade and welcome them.
- SJW views on life (feminism, victimhood mentality, etc.).
None of this is based on reality. They are based on dreams and ideas found in text books. And this is a growing trend that will bankrupt the west.
Then we agree fully. Your positions are closer to that of the centre right, which is about small governments, balanced budgets, moderate taxes, private entrepreneurship, healthy competition, and innovation. Essentially; rational conservatism (which I align myself with). This is the most effective ideology that has thus far created strong, stable, solid, economic growth. For those who wish to work hard and participate. The government is best relegated to a position of refereeing healthy competition, not picking winners and losers.
That is great that we agree. That is the true red pill, freedom. Men need and crave freedom.
But my point was to not district from the debate and try to compare the extremes. Discussing the extreme left and right and saying both are equally bad takes away from the point. We must instead look at the main stream conservative v. the main stream liberal.
Our views are that of the main stream conservative. Less govt., more freedoms to allow healthy economic competition, and healthy family bonding.
The views of the main stream liberal, the stances of Obama and Hillary are that of feminism, "free" healthcare, "free" education, and SJW PC labeling. The average liberal today agrees with these stances. And none of them are based in reality. Nothing is free in life and feminism is a complete farce. Yet the average liberal buys into it. So this thread has done a great job of explaining why that is.
The extreme left is very evil as the extreme right. But the main stream right is realistic and the main stream left is based on a fantasy world and is going to destroy our peaceful society.