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Plausible deniability
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Plausible deniability

Do some girls not need it? It's just I'm in a cab after dropping off a mate who managed to get a girl to go back to his with no excuse etc bearing in mind this is london and he lives SE London zone 4 and she lives w london zone 2 (she is swede). Good on the fella I don't even think he knows what game is but is a natural!

"I have failed over, and over, and over again in my life, and that is why I succeed".
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#2

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Quote: (11-26-2015 11:18 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

Do some girls not need it? It's just I'm in a cab after dropping off a mate who managed to get a girl to go back to his with no excuse etc bearing in mind this is london and he lives SE London zone 4 and she lives w london zone 2 (she is swede). Good on the fella I don't even think he knows what game is but is a natural!

Newsflash, girls like sex. Scratch that, GIRLS LOVE SEX. They love sucking dick, they love getting pounded. They might not necessarily like "porno sex", but 99 times out of 100 - her fantasies are ILLEGAL TO FILM. She might not want anal, but she's probably had some rape fantasies or some underage situations that will creep most men out.

It is what it is.

So if you're out and about, and you get the vibe that the chick wants to BANG, it will ALWAYS be bad game to ASK her if she wants to fuck.

It will always be bad game to VERBALIZE what is obvious.

So in cases where you know it's ON, tell the chick he come check out my place and we can hang out.

She knows the deal.
You know the deal.

No Need to Advertise the fact that "i'm trying to stick my dick into your pussy"

If you were to say, "Hey slut, come over and let me fuck you in the ass, and then fade away on the text messages" - even a chick that was going to invite her sorority sisters for some tag team blowjobs will change her mind because YOU HAVE NO DISCRETION.

And that's the key to the game.

Most clueless guys, (we all were at one time) think that
1) girls don't like sex
2) they need to be bargained into sex
- have money
- have big muscles
- be popular

But that's not really what's happening. And the more experience you have, the more you understand women, the more you realize that the world is operating on two levels.

Just like the Red Pill teaches you that politics is subterfuge for one group stealing from another group - the Game teaches you that chicks like sex, and they reward guys who "get it" and punish guys who don't.

WIA
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#3

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Enter this thread like this

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Read this

Quote: (11-27-2015 02:24 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (11-26-2015 11:18 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

Do some girls not need it? It's just I'm in a cab after dropping off a mate who managed to get a girl to go back to his with no excuse etc bearing in mind this is london and he lives SE London zone 4 and she lives w london zone 2 (she is swede). Good on the fella I don't even think he knows what game is but is a natural!

Newsflash, girls like sex. Scratch that, GIRLS LOVE SEX. They love sucking dick, they love getting pounded. They might not necessarily like "porno sex", but 99 times out of 100 - her fantasies are ILLEGAL TO FILM. She might not want anal, but she's probably had some rape fantasies or some underage situations that will creep most men out.

It is what it is.

So if you're out and about, and you get the vibe that the chick wants to BANG, it will ALWAYS be bad game to ASK her if she wants to fuck.

It will always be bad game to VERBALIZE what is obvious.

So in cases where you know it's ON, tell the chick he come check out my place and we can hang out.

She knows the deal.
You know the deal.

No Need to Advertise the fact that "i'm trying to stick my dick into your pussy"

If you were to say, "Hey slut, come over and let me fuck you in the ass, and then fade away on the text messages" - even a chick that was going to invite her sorority sisters for some tag team blowjobs will change her mind because YOU HAVE NO DISCRETION.

And that's the key to the game.

Most clueless guys, (we all were at one time) think that
1) girls don't like sex
2) they need to be bargained into sex
- have money
- have big muscles
- be popular

But that's not really what's happening. And the more experience you have, the more you understand women, the more you realize that the world is operating on two levels.

Just like the Red Pill teaches you that politics is subterfuge for one group stealing from another group - the Game teaches you that chicks like sex, and they reward guys who "get it" and punish guys who don't.

WIA

Open & shut case

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Tell them too much, they wouldn't understand; tell them what they know, they would yawn.
They have to move up by responding to challenges, not too easy not too hard, until they paused at what they always think is the end of the road for all time instead of a momentary break in an endless upward spiral
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#4

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Quote: (11-26-2015 11:18 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

Do some girls not need it? It's just I'm in a cab after dropping off a mate who managed to get a girl to go back to his with no excuse etc bearing in mind this is london and he lives SE London zone 4 and she lives w london zone 2 (she is swede). Good on the fella I don't even think he knows what game is but is a natural!

yea don't need it - she was out to score.
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#5

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Great response WIA man. This means on any given night most women are out to score?!

"I have failed over, and over, and over again in my life, and that is why I succeed".
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#6

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Quote: (11-28-2015 11:32 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

Great response WIA man. This means on any given night most women are out to score?!

Maybe not consciously, but unconsciously.

Her lizard brain wants to mate.
Her ape brain tries to keep the lizard from going crazy.

But it's the lizard that makes her put on those shoes that are hard to walk in, that dress she has to squeeze herself into, and the paint on her face to suggest sex.

So if the right set of genes walks by in some jeans, she can attract him with her looks

Then the Ape brain and the Lizard Brain see if the guy's behavior matches his looks.

The thing that player's have discovered is BEHAVIOR alone can get a girl HOT.

There are many ways to seduce a broad, but what most men find is that even though their looks don't change much, their bankrolls don't change greatly - their behavior with women changes a lot - and that results in more sex.

And part of a player's behavior change goes back to what he thinks about women.

A player can think that all women are angels or bitches, but he has learned that angels and bitches both like to fuck. He believes that.

So if a chick is sweet to him, she wants the dick.
If a chick is a bitch to him, she's only testing him because she wants the dick.

This sort of limited narcissism serves the player well.

Indeed, if we could peer into the mind of every woman that a player sleeps with
- she may hate him initially
- love him for that night
- hate him in the morning
- miss him all throughout the day
- then hate him entirely and never want to talk to him ever again

So in an objective reality, maybe that chick didn't want to fuck initially, or not fuck the player - maybe she'd spread her legs for David Beckham or Tyson Beckford in a heart beat - but not Steven the insurance adjuster.

But Steven knew that she wanted to fuck. And he had his words, body language, and behavior and could connect with the girl's lizard brain.

That's how I view game.
That's why I don't think a lot of Game 3.0 isn't always helpful to new players. And when you bring in culture and politics, and step away from psychology and biology - the young player is liable to do shit that's counterproductive.

WIA
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#7

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What is game 3.0? Serious question.
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#8

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Quote: (11-29-2015 06:20 PM)XXL Wrote:  

What is game 3.0? Serious question.

Game 1.0 - from Ovid to Iceberg Slim - focus on a woman's psychology and behavior.

Game 2.0 - PUA - a focus on the micro-passions and specific steps

Game 3.0 - Red Pill, Dark Triad, "Lifestyle" Game - A macro understanding of how everything is "connected"

Much of what you would read about women and relationships from thousands of years ago hasn't changed. PUA focused on a few archetypes and attempted to break it down into a repeatable steps.

Since say 2005, the manosphere has developed an understanding of the seduction process that incorporates a lot what would have been considered background reading in the PUA era and stuff that wasn't particularly controversial in the previous era.

Arguably 3.0 is only important in Advanced Western Economies where women have been equipped with more tools to deal with male resource advantage. If she can get a job that supports her shoes, purse, and cat habits - a man has to bring a lot more to the table resource wise in terms of long term coupling. For the short term, he has to appeal to her lizard brain through appearance and behavior.

The world over, when guys talk about being in South America, Eastern Europe, or the Philippines - a "good" man is described as one who does not drink incessantly, beat her, doesn't flagrantly cheat, and has a stable source of income. Throw in some exotic factor and some game, at the macro level, marrying/coupling out of the local culture becomes attractive. For either party to pick up and leave their friends, family, and culture is a tremendous thing.

If you told me that I could have all the high grade pussy I want, but I have to learn a new language and culture - one which I wouldn't ever have mastery of - and largely give up my old one except for a few meetings with friends every couple of years - It'd be hard for me to do that. Unless of course I traveled, and realized that life, on average, can be better than what I'm experiencing now.

In simpler places, the basics of resources and temperament are the foundations of game. The more resources the society has, the more that is available to women w/o trading their nubility and fertility, the more that a man has to level up.

The Australian members basically show all of us the diminishing returns on a physical culture when it comes to attracting women, particularly attractive women. Per our friends from down under, the guys who seem to monopolize the attractive women are resource and status heavy.

My overall feelings on this are more for the big board not the small one

WIA
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#9

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Quote: (11-28-2015 12:36 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Quote: (11-28-2015 11:32 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

Great response WIA man. This means on any given night most women are out to score?!

Maybe not consciously, but unconsciously.

Her lizard brain wants to mate.
Her ape brain tries to keep the lizard from going crazy.

But it's the lizard that makes her put on those shoes that are hard to walk in, that dress she has to squeeze herself into, and the paint on her face to suggest sex.

I recently had a first date with a Tinder girl and she asked me about my experience with other girls on Tinder. I said a few simple things and changed the subject to her experience with guys on Tinder. She complained about guys being too aggressive and trying to get sex too quickly. I'm pretty good at reading people and her comments seemed to be less like a shit test and more like something she believed on a conscious level (I guess it could have been both). The hidden message from her subconscious brain was "I will have sex with you as long as you don't act like a douchebag like those other guys". I didn't understand the message quite that clearly at the time but I knew enough to consciously focus on comfort for the rest of the date.

It took some time but we had sex that night. She sent many texts the next day including "I never do that but I was so comfortable with you like we have known each other for a long time". Disregard the "I never do that" but obviously comfort was the key factor in this situation.

This kind of thing happens all the time to guys who just have a little game knowledge (like me). All you have to do is ignore what her conscious brain said earlier in the night. She's not different. I've trained myself to repeat "she's not different" in my head whenever my lizard brain tries to trick me into thinking she is a good girl and I better not move too fast because it could upset her. Reading this thread made me realize that the reason "she's not different" is because of the lizard brain. She's not different because she has the same lizard brain that they all do.

If you get her talking and listen closely enough her lizard brain might tell you exactly what to do.
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#10

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She is a good girl. They are all good girls. They want dick. Be nice and don't let one hoard.
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