[WestIndianArchie]

(11-14-2015 11:38 AM)polar Wrote:  

[*]Structure your employment as a contractor for a company which pays you just a modest portion of your income as a salary, and invests the rest (meaning you show a low income for alimony and child support purposes)

LOL at this. Given how much companies outsource their payroll, you're not pulling this off as a rank and file employee. To get a deal like this, you need some sort of in demand skill so that the otherside of the arrangement is willing to put up with all of this complication. Average person is still an employee, be it wage or salary. They don't have the bargaining power to accomplish this.

And most of those other "protections" are just as laughable.

There's a concept called "piercing the corporate veil". Various entities have been dreamed up to escape all kinds of liability. For typical corporate things, breach of contract, a corporation is the thing that takes the hit, the but the people running the corporation get off Scot Free. But if the court figures out that management was siphoning funds or hiding assets - not only are those assets seized, sometimes the hiders do Jail Time. (And there's no such thing as Club Fed. Madoff isn't playing golf right now)

You see less and less of this punished at the big corporate level not because they played the paper game correctly, but because they play a game of politics that exists outside of law.

But unless your name is Sergey Brin or Elon Musk, the average guy with even an upper middle class income doesn't have enough money or influence to get away with trusts, llc's, and other types of legal hocus pocus.

Some lawyer will of course sell you the paper work, probably charge you a pretty penny for it. But when it comes time to defend your self, do you have those defense lawyer fees sitting some place safe? 20 K into a Trust, and you need another 50k + to defend it in court.

If this is a real concern of yours, you need to be hiding physical cash someplace. But your house, car, pension, stocks, bonds, retirements, insurance policies...things with paper trails can and will be found. And if you've been hiding them from the court, there were probably some laws broken to do so. The court will make whatever entity you create disgorge those assets to be liquidated.

If you're the sort of guy who's looking at 8 figures, the threat to your mountain of cash will probably be 1) the market 2) your competitors 3) a plaintiff.

You could of course leave the country in exile....

WIA

[Dr. Howard]

(11-13-2015 11:16 AM)LINUX Wrote:  

Marriage is growing up looking for something like this:



but then you start thinking about gas mileage, how many other men drove it, how long it will last, etc.. and instead you settle for this:




No worries though: players come, players go.

This is hilarious and true. Would you buy a Chevelle SS for your daily commuter car or work vehicle? Would you use it to get the groceries in and haul landscaping material? No. Its awesome for looking at, tearing around and spending your weekends fixing. You would need another car, or pickup truck for everyday life.

This is the same with wife, if you look for just the absolute hottest, crazy in bet slut you can find your marriage is going to suck.

Honda Civic kind of girl if you want to live in the city



Pickup Truck kind of girl if you want to live in the country


Both need to have more Utility and Reliability than Enjoyability...and for the love of god, low mileage, you don't want to have to be repairing someone else's problems all the time. If you blow a tranny, you want to know its your own fault for driving it too hard.

Never buy a used sports car, and if you do buy one don't make it your main vehicle ever.

[tarquin]

(11-14-2015 12:52 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

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Both need to have more Utility and Reliability than Enjoyability...and for the love of god, low mileage, you don't want to have to be repairing someone else's problems all the time. If you blow a tranny, you want to know its your own fault for driving it too hard.

Never buy a used sports car, and if you do buy one don't make it your main vehicle ever.

[thoughtgypsy]

(11-14-2015 12:52 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

Never buy a used sports car, and if you do buy one don't make it your main vehicle ever.

The only cars I've ever owned were sports cars. I got over 15 years and 100k+ miles on my last one, sold it above blue book and got my current one, which is almost 10 years old and probably not even at half life. It's my daily driver. But this is getting off topic...

[Dr. Howard]

(11-14-2015 01:12 PM)tarquin Wrote:  

(11-14-2015 12:52 PM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

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Both need to have more Utility and Reliability than Enjoyability...and for the love of god, low mileage, you don't want to have to be repairing someone else's problems all the time. If you blow a tranny, you want to know its your own fault for driving it too hard.

Never buy a used sports car, and if you do buy one don't make it your main vehicle ever.

Hahaha. phrasing.

[Tytalus]

Look up Athol Kay's Married Man Sex Life book. It has a very good red pill guide of what it takes to stay married long term.

[Ingocnito]

Many of us have missed opportunities in life simply because the timing wasn't right. Now quite often the time will NEVER be right for a particular situation... a job offer, an LTR, distant travel, etc. You just have to jump in and get your feet wet at minimum, but not always head-first.

With the cards so heavily stacked against men re. marriage, if it's marriage that you're considering, MOST of the stars need to align with the RIGHT woman. Timing is everything in this case, and that goes for both parties. I tried to make it work - for the sake of an unplanned child - with a girl I was planning on leaving after 4 months together. My one and only pregnancy scare became a reality.

The timing for both of us was impeccably horrible. My dad was dying, we both met in college and were about to graduate while she carried the child for the entire last semester, I'd started a new job, and moved us both into a new house. I engaged her because it seemed the right thing to do with a child on the way. However, the stresses of so much early on, just trailed on into the relationship, especially with financial woes graduating into the recession, losing work,stints of unemployment, etc. What a mess.

So what you need is 1) the right woman (good luck with that shit) 2) financial soundness with A,B,C, & D backup plans 3) a dualistically unstressed environment and individual lives, and 4) generally good timing. THEN continue to apply game as usual to glue the whole thing together long term.

[Aurini]

My view, as a Catholic.

Marriage is one of those things that ought to be impossible; that's why it's a sacrament. Humans come from a type of beast that forms pair-bonds for seven years, long enough to get the children on their feet, and then they lose interest in each other.

Marriage is a higher commitment of the intellect and the soul; we are better people, wealthier people, with healthier children when we get married, but it requires that we overcome our nature.

As a comparison, think of office towers; they ought to be impossible. They ought to require a Sky Hook to complete - a magical hook that hangs down from the sky, and can lift steel beams to whatever height we wish. Engineers, through incredibly ingenuity (the sort of ingenuity that nature and evolution alone could never create) manage to 'trick' a Sky Hook into existing.

Marriage is the same way. By the woman vowing to submit, and the husband vowing to cherish, and through the magic of Grace, we are able to transcend our instincts and re-employ them in a way that only human beings are capable of.

50 years ago marriages may have been more stable because of the law, but (I suspect) there were nonetheless a huge number of failed marriages. Back then, getting married was a risk of marital misery; these days, it's a risk of divorce theft. It's always been a major decision, as risky and foolish as Baptism or joining the Priesthood. When you marry somebody, you're giving up the right to be happy; your duty is to make HER happy, to protect and cherish her, regarldess of how it makes you feel. It's her duty to submit and obey you, and work hard to please you, whether she wants to or not.

If you both give up on being happy, you'll be ridiculously happy with each other; if you try and be happy, you'll both wind up miserable. If she can understand this, she might be worth marrying.

[MrLemon]

(11-14-2015 09:17 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

My view, as a Catholic.

Marriage is one of those things that ought to be impossible; that's why it's a sacrament. Humans come from a type of beast that forms pair-bonds for seven years, long enough to get the children on their feet, and then they lose interest in each other.

Marriage is a higher commitment of the intellect and the soul; we are better people, wealthier people, with healthier children when we get married, but it requires that we overcome our nature.

As a comparison, think of office towers; they ought to be impossible. They ought to require a Sky Hook to complete - a magical hook that hangs down from the sky, and can lift steel beams to whatever height we wish. Engineers, through incredibly ingenuity (the sort of ingenuity that nature and evolution alone could never create) manage to 'trick' a Sky Hook into existing.

Marriage is the same way. By the woman vowing to submit, and the husband vowing to cherish, and through the magic of Grace, we are able to transcend our instincts and re-employ them in a way that only human beings are capable of.

50 years ago marriages may have been more stable because of the law, but (I suspect) there were nonetheless a huge number of failed marriages. Back then, getting married was a risk of marital misery; these days, it's a risk of divorce theft. It's always been a major decision, as risky and foolish as Baptism or joining the Priesthood. When you marry somebody, you're giving up the right to be happy; your duty is to make HER happy, to protect and cherish her, regarldess of how it makes you feel. It's her duty to submit and obey you, and work hard to please you, whether she wants to or not.

If you both give up on being happy, you'll be ridiculously happy with each other; if you try and be happy, you'll both wind up miserable. If she can understand this, she might be worth marrying.

Well said. As I commented in another thread, one place to look for a wife is in the Catholic faith. Not perfect by any stretch, but a place.

[the_ox]

In my experience, couples change when they live together - you can call it whatever you want: get together/marriage/home fucking etc - and you are going to fight yourself, face daily shit tests and, as everyone says, sex doesn't happen every day.

Of course sometimes you face yourself thinking about being alone and not living with your "love" anymore. But when I get myself, back to the days I was married, "thinking rationally and cold" I remember the times when it was so fucked up that I avoided to get home... I prefer to stay at work late, going to the university and things like that because the energy/vibe at home was the worst. I know I'd face some shit test again, my ex doing nothing and messing up the whole place - in my "sanctuary". A place where you supposed to rest, meditate, be with yourself and be happy, was transformed into a fucked up place.

And it was 80% of the times. I remember when we had one day which as cool and it was the day I thought "from now, things will go well" - but the next 5 days, some shit test comes up and fucks everything up again.

If you think you can handle these things, try it.

Just FYI, I used to live with my ex for more than a year, but I was 26-27 at that time, and because so many blue pills problems I had at that time, I found this forum and manhood stuff. Some bad things happen for a reason. Those things are what make you the man you are.