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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-20-2016 06:53 AM)Bill Wrote:  

If the gap between rich and poor is to big crime rates may go up as the poor people have nothing to lose.

It should, but it doesn't.

There are too many regimes, US included, that have huge gulfs of income and wealth inequality.

Usually, poor people end up shooting each other.

For them to get the guillotines ready, they need to be organized and radicalized.

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#52

Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-20-2016 02:58 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

Quote: (01-19-2016 04:09 PM)goldenhinde Wrote:  

Also we Germans (and probably many Europeans) have to save less money for life events such as unemployment, serious health problems, or for our pension/retiring when growing old, because all of this is covered for by the state social securities.

Paid for by you, from the taxes you've paid, and the taxes of others. You're paying for it just like Americans pay for it- except in Germany the state takes all of the money and decides what to do with it. In the U.S., it's more up to you to make the right decisions.

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And this is not some luxury plan that only few Germans have, it is what everybody is entitled to by law, no matter which age or job or qualification and no matter which company you're working at.

No matter what value you provide to society you get the spoils- doesn't sound great to me. Sounds pretty shitty for the people that work hard and succeed.

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You can fall here, but you don't fall fast, and you don't fall hard

Because the other guy that didn't fall is forced to pay your way when you fall.

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Universities in Germany are completely free

Again, it's not free at all, it's being paid for it out of everyones income, so even if you choose not to go you are still paying for your neighbors kid to go. And you have no choice in the matter.

Nothing is "free" in Germany - everyone is having money taken from their income to pay for these things, and you get to pay for other peoples problems and poor choices. I don't get how anyone can see this as a good system.

The thing is, healthcare is something where the "free" market just doesn´t work that well and America is a good example of it. Just look at health expenditure as a total (% of GDP) in the US. It´s much higher and the Return on Investment is clearly not flattering. The health of the american population in general is clearly not better than the one in Western Europe or Japan. Just take a peak at the Life expectancy (not all of it is due to dietary differences) or the fact that if you are diagnosed with cancer, it can bankrupt you or be your death sentence in America (if you don´t have a good private plan), while the healthcare system of a european nation, will take care of the costs of your treatment.

Due to the enormous size and negotiation power of the national healthcare systems they can get better deals on prices of medicine to name just one advantage. And by the way, you can still have a private healthcare insurance too if you want. So you can have the best of both worlds.

And sure we pay more taxes to fund our healthcare system. But in my opinion it´s worth it and a majority of Europeans think it´s worth it.
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#53

Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

The high wages some Americans make are clearly not sustainable going forward.

Consider a German machinist working in a Bavarian Mittelstand. The company he works for is the world's only supplier of some special valve component used in oil pipelines, to create a completely random example. The reason his company is the world's only supplier and can charge thousands of dollars for this component is due to decades, in some cases centuries, of accumulated engineering and metallurgical know-how that borders on art and is unmatched by any competitor. So this German machinist might make an income of USD $50k, and his wage is supported by real cash flow from oil projects all over the world.

On the other hand, think of a 50 year old public high school teacher in some shitty urban school district in the USA. This guy "teaches" hoodrats who will never amount to anything the finer aspects of American literature or whatever, and makes $100k. This is a completely fictional $100k, it has no basis in value created by the guy earning it.

In Germany, many people making $50k do jobs that actually generate the revenue being used to pay them. In USA there are jobs like that, too, but it is a much smaller fraction. The teachers are paid from tax revenue and borrowing. The people paying taxes are working jobs that in turn also depend on various financial schemes and capital inflows from all over the world. The percentage of people working in real, value generating activities like manufacturing, farming, energy, etc is minuscule. This will inevitably collapse one day.
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#54

Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Another big difference I see between Europe and the US is the inequality . Now I don´t want to sound to cranky, because there are a lot of things I like and even truly admire about the US and its entrepreneurial people. But it´s a fact, that in this regard, both societies are a bit different. Now the way I see it, America is great, if you are an outstanding person. If you truly are elite, in regard to intelligence and work ethic you can achieve great things and make much more money than if you were born in Europe. It´s not a coincidence that Mark Zuckerberg, Sergey Brin or Elon Musk founded their companies in the states. If would have been much more difficult for them (for a number of reasons) to do the same thing in Europe.

Unfortunately, not everybody shares these characteristics. So for maybe 70%-80% of the Americans, I wouldn´t really say that the have a better quality of life than western europeans of the same "category" (working hours, maternity leave etc.). And for the lowest 20th percentile I think life is definitely worse than the same group in Europe. But this is just my opinion.
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-22-2016 12:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?

There have been plenty of arguments made in this thread against Sweden that have not touched race.

That said, if you do not think race is a pertinent factor why not come up with counter-arguments instead of a thinly-veiled attempt at shaming? The people who argue racial differences at least back up their arguments. Meanwhile Sweden is the rape capital of Europe but we're supposed to accept Multiculturalism/multiracialism as irrelevant. Gotcha bro.

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#57

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Quote: (01-22-2016 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe

Sweden is also the feminist capital of Europe.

There's a lot of slut remorse in play here, no fucking way in hell that 1 out of 4 women gets raped.

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Quote: (01-22-2016 07:24 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe

Sweden is also the feminist capital of Europe.

There's a lot of slut remorse in play here, no fucking way in hell that 1 out of 4 women gets raped.

Even if it's 1 out of 50 women, that's still off the charts.

But we'll never know, because Sweden is a totalitarian shithole that will need to be invaded and colonized into a civilized country in 20 years from now.

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#59

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Quote: (01-22-2016 07:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 07:24 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe

Sweden is also the feminist capital of Europe.

There's a lot of slut remorse in play here, no fucking way in hell that 1 out of 4 women gets raped.

Even if it's 1 out of 50 women, that's still off the charts.

But we'll never know, because Sweden is a totalitarian shithole that will need to be invaded and colonized into a civilized country in 20 years from now.

No doubt. Did you know that it's illegal to have steroids in your blood in Sweden?

If a person looks too muscular, he can be apprehended by the police and forced to submit a urine sample, since big muscles constitute "reasonable suspicion".

Google it, this has happened many times.

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#60

Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-22-2016 12:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?






Race and culture has nothing to do with anything guys

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#61

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The standard of living is definitely not high in the Sweden and Germany.

The poor are better off in those countries ofcourse, but anyone from lower-middle class and up is better off in the US. In Germany, a Doctor lives more or less has the same quality of life as a guy who works at Aldi or Marktkauf.

In the US, fresh Engineering graduates can comfortably land a job that pays 60-80k a year. In Germany, they're lucky to find a job period. If they do they're looking at 30-40k Euros with higher taxes and a higher cost of living.

There are limits to success in Germany and Sweden. Doesn't matter how smart, talented or hard working you are. At some point the government just caps you and says " STOP ... that's enough for you". In America there are no limits.

A gym membership will cost you 100-150 Euros in Germany. In America, most Rec centers charge $25. Planet fitness just $10 a month.

Forget eating out in Europe. I studied in Germany for a little bit over a year and i think i might have eaten out twice. In America, any guy with a non-minimum wage job can go out and eat semi-regularly because service based industries tend to be cheap. 9 dollar Chinese buffets don't exist in Europe.

In Germany, getting a drivers license costs 2500 Euros. Yes two thousand five hundred. In America it costs $25. 1/1000th of the price. Getting a car in America? Easy. $1500 down with an affordable payment plan and you can drive off with a car of your choice. Europe? Better save cold hard cash to buy a gay ass Opel.

Germany and Sweden are great countries for women. They favor security over risk taking and glory. They're both hellholes for men with an iota of intelligence, work ethic and a sense of freedom.

Fuck those cucks.

Edit: There are some advantages like being able to drink in public. Also the fact that if you mess up in life, there is a safety net that will keep you from falling through the cracks. In America, you get 2 DUI's when you're in party mode at 19 and you're fucked for the rest of your life. Get a felony? Bye Bye professional jobs. Europe's justice system is definitely more geared towards rehabilitation than the money grubbing witch-hunt the American justice system has become.
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#62

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It's funny how guys are quick to bash other countries, when they don't exactly live in paradise.

So Germany and Sweden are poorer than "most" US states. What do you call "most"?

Christ, I cross the border and go to Buffalo and I see places that look like "The Wire" tv series.

As for the rape stats, I am pretty sure there are more rapes in the UK. Go out on a Saturday night in most UK towns, you will see women drunk out of their skulls falling down with no shame. I have heard of many cases of private mini-cab drivers having their way with these women. As we all know, not all rapes are reported. Look at the Rotherham sex scandal, how many children were raped and abused there! Somehow I doubt that is the only city in the UK to experience this.

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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

The standard of living is definitely not high in the Sweden and Germany.

The poor are better off in those countries ofcourse, but anyone from lower-middle class and up is better off in the US. In Germany, a Doctor lives more or less has the same quality of life as a guy who works at Aldi or Marktkauf.

In the US, fresh Engineering graduates can comfortably land a job that pays 60-80k a year. In Germany, they're lucky to find a job period. If they do they're looking at 30-40k Euros with higher taxes and a higher cost of living.

There are limits to success in Germany and Sweden. Doesn't matter how smart, talented or hard working you are. At some point the government just caps you and says " STOP ... that's enough for you". In America there are no limits.

A gym membership will cost you 100-150 Euros in Germany. In America, most Rec centers charge $25. Planet fitness just $10 a month.

Forget eating out in Europe. I studied in Germany for a little bit over a year and i think i might have eaten out twice. In America, any guy with a non-minimum wage job can go out and eat semi-regularly because service based industries tend to be cheap. 9 dollar Chinese buffets don't exist in Europe.

In Germany, getting a drivers license costs 2500 Euros. Yes two thousand five hundred. In America it costs $25. 1/1000th of the price. Getting a car in America? Easy. $1500 down with an affordable payment plan and you can drive off with a car of your choice. Europe? Better save cold hard cash to buy a gay ass Opel.

Germany and Sweden are great countries for women. They favor security over risk taking and glory. They're both hellholes for men with an iota of intelligence, work ethic and a sense of freedom.

Fuck those cucks.

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Actually u can find cheaper gyms and there is Chinese buffet for 10euros at least in when I was in Austria, I imagone Germany is similar. You don't really to drive in big cities in Europe
It is true America is better for entrepreneurship and a higher cap.
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-22-2016 07:40 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 07:29 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 07:24 PM)the Thing Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 03:49 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Sweden is the rape capital of Europe

Sweden is also the feminist capital of Europe.

There's a lot of slut remorse in play here, no fucking way in hell that 1 out of 4 women gets raped.

Even if it's 1 out of 50 women, that's still off the charts.

But we'll never know, because Sweden is a totalitarian shithole that will need to be invaded and colonized into a civilized country in 20 years from now.

No doubt. Did you know that it's illegal to have steroids in your blood in Sweden?

If a person looks too muscular, he can be apprehended by the police and forced to submit a urine sample, since big muscles constitute "reasonable suspicion".

Google it, this has happened many times.

I had a thread about this a while ago:
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Quote: (01-22-2016 10:52 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

The standard of living is definitely not high in the Sweden and Germany. jscripts/edi...vision.gif

The poor are better off in those countries ofcourse, but anyone from lower-middle class and up is better off in the US. In Germany, a Doctor lives more or less has the same quality of life as a guy who works at Aldi or Marktkauf.

In the US, fresh Engineering graduates can comfortably land a job that pays 60-80k a year. In Germany, they're lucky to find a job period. If they do they're looking at 30-40k Euros with higher taxes and a higher cost of living.

There are limits to success in Germany and Sweden. Doesn't matter how smart, talented or hard working you are. At some point the government just caps you and says " STOP ... that's enough for you". In America there are no limits.

A gym membership will cost you 100-150 Euros in Germany. In America, most Rec centers charge $25. Planet fitness just $10 a month.

Forget eating out in Europe. I studied in Germany for a little bit over a year and i think i might have eaten out twice. In America, any guy with a non-minimum wage job can go out and eat semi-regularly because service based industries tend to be cheap. 9 dollar Chinese buffets don't exist in Europe.

In Germany, getting a drivers license costs 2500 Euros. Yes two thousand five hundred. In America it costs $25. 1/1000th of the price. Getting a car in America? Easy. $1500 down with an affordable payment plan and you can drive off with a car of your choice. Europe? Better save cold hard cash to buy a gay ass Opel.

Germany and Sweden are great countries for women. They favor security over risk taking and glory. They're both hellholes for men with an iota of intelligence, work ethic and a sense of freedom.

Fuck those cucks.

Edit: There are some advantages like being able to drink in public. Also the fact that if you mess up in life, there is a safety net that will keep you from falling through the cracks. In America, you get 2 DUI's when you're in party mode at 19 and you're fucked for the rest of your life. Get a felony? Bye Bye professional jobs. Europe's justice system is definitely more geared towards rehabilitation than the money grubbing witch-hunt the American justice system has become.

When you graduate in Engineering your first salary can be from 40.000 to 55.000€, depending on the job and the field. And yes you will rise it over the years but not in such an extreme like in the US. Still you are better of, can afford more and have some savings then just a person that works at Aldi. They will never hit the bottom as hard as in the US but there is a small gap. I guess thats what the European system is about, keep the social gap low for the peace of the society.

There is a reason why all those super rich people are from outside of Europe, from the US or Asia, also such companies like google, apple, amazon or facebook, outstanding careers and so on are not common in Europe. You can say it holds you down but also argue it keep you in balance. Arnold Schwarzenegger would never made it in Germany that far. So if you have talent you should better move. The US is about extremes in some way, they have high elite but also a very down bottom. Europe is about the middle.

About the gyms, you have the chains for 19,90€ per months everywhere. Now some even open for lower. Gyms are super cheap. Also food in the supermarket is extreme cheap in Germany. Its just not common to eat out every day. So yeah maybe in the US you can afford it more easy but what kind of food it is? I guess fast food or? When you go out in Germany you go to a decent restaurant with good service and food. But you can always get a Asia box with chicken and nudles or a Döner for a 3 to 5 €.

The driver license, well what do you guys do in the US? In Germany you have to take several theoretical and practical lessons first. Night drive, highway drive, long distance drive, city drive and so on. Price is more about 1500 €.

I agree that there is a mentality that prefer to play safe then take a risk in Germany, also that outstanding people have a hard time. On the other hands we don't have the social extreme but it chance now.
Whats also an advantage in Germany, women don't have such a lot of rights like in the US. When you divorce the one who earns more has to support the lower earner. This means also a women has to pay a man in some cases. Furthermore when you pay for the child and for her, you get regular checks if it is still necessary. For example after a few years the court say she can work again. All the agenda of bring women into work lower the live time financial support for women. So marry and divorce is not a business model in Germany. Maybe for some rich it is but in general women have a decent or even a high job qualification. So the law say, they can work soon again.

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There are tremendous cultural differences that will never let us determine the perceived quality of life in those countries. When I mention "cultural differences" I'm talking about the priorities in life and life-goals americans and Europeans do have. In the case of Germany and Sweden, they both do have much more mature and emotionally stable populations. Americans even at 40's still seem like a teenager stuck in the body of an adult. I guess quality of life in america will never be the same than in europe for that very same reason. The american positivism ("you will make it brah") only brings selfishness and huge economical gpa which is only decremental for whole society.

Americans are so damn competitive about everything, even about dating..(which unsurprisingly created the beloved sausage-fests) Germans and Swedes are far more relaxed people... most american males I've met and shared with tend to have a huge problem relating to women. and are desperated about settling down with anything they can get.
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Quote: (01-22-2016 08:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 12:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?

Race and culture has nothing to do with anything guys

What does this trollish vid/comment have anything to do with the thread topic? Have you made it your goal in life to derail all threads on the forum?

You pump out half a dozen posts every day, all in the EE forum about race. Isn't it about time you left the house, all this bitter hate can't be good for your outlook on life.
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Quote: (01-23-2016 08:07 AM)TigerTim Wrote:  

There are tremendous cultural differences that will never let us determine the perceived quality of life in those countries. When I mention "cultural differences" I'm talking about the priorities in life and life-goals americans and Europeans do have. In the case of Germany and Sweden, they both do have much more mature and emotionally stable populations. Americans even at 40's still seem like a teenager stuck in the body of an adult. I guess quality of life in america will never be the same than in europe for that very same reason. The american positivism ("you will make it brah") only brings selfishness and huge economical gpa which is only decremental for whole society.

Americans are so damn competitive about everything, even about dating..(which unsurprisingly created the beloved sausage-fests) Germans and Swedes are far more relaxed people... most american males I've met and shared with tend to have a huge problem relating to women. and are desperated about settling down with anything they can get.

If you've met most American women you would understand why we have trouble relating to them. Everybody does.

I'm guessing your European just from your post. There's no point for you trying to judge Americans and culture from your point of view just as we shouldn't do the same with yours.

Our culture is something that is hard to understand but it's what the entire country was founded on. Either you are born in it and get it or you don't. Period.
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Quote: (01-23-2016 08:41 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 08:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 12:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?

Race and culture has nothing to do with anything guys

What does this trollish vid/comment have anything to do with the thread topic? Have you made it your goal in life to derail all threads on the forum?

You pump out half a dozen posts every day, all in the EE forum about race. Isn't it about time you left the house, all this bitter hate can't be good for your outlook on life.

That video I posted took me about 4 seconds of searching on the net. I think I could find literally hundreds of videos of Muslims attacking Europeans if I wanted to, because the attacks are so numerous and frequent. Not just for Sweden, mind you.

But the fact you think Islam is irrelevant and you say I need to get out more is irony of the highest order, because your posts indicate a level of denial and ignorance about general society not seen since WestCoast.

I seriously wonder if I have spent more time with the commoners in my country in a month than you have in your entire life, Vicious. I talk with folks out on my streets everyday (men and women), on top of enormous quantities of regular reading (both on and offline). You don't know who you are talking to. I think it's time you leave the corporate world, you seem to be living in a bubble.

Since you have a tough time following the topic, I'll spell out what race and culture has to do with the topic. You argued with Global Man on page 2 that America has more people on welfare than Sweden (which isn't true anymore because of Sweden's large Islamic population living on welfare, but regardless let's just look at "official" stats). I said no, it doesn't, if you just look at White Americans, the closest relatives to Europeans, and compare them to Europeans on welfare. That was a legit response by me and it was totally in line with the topic.

You then reply with a one-sentence reply "What does race have to do with this guys," which is just so detached from reality that there's nothing to do but mock such a statement. So why should I give you serious replies when you don't give me serious replies? The fact I could just perform a 2-second search across Google or /pol/ and find a video of Swedes getting attacked by Muslims seriously illustrates the naivete or willful ignorance of your attitude.

Race is the cumulative effects of cultural choices and environmental adaptations made over thousands of years - there is no undoing that in a generation, not even 10 generations. Evolution is real.

So, for the purposes of comparing quality of life between America and Europe, you have to compare what is comparable. Whites to Whites between continents, since they share the most similar culture and evolutionary traits. And what we see is that Whites in America live better by almost every standard. Higher birth rates, higher average income, less likely to be fucked up by crime (thanks to the retarded immigration policy Europeans have), and although the poor in your country have it slightly better it won't last. You guys have taken on way too many burdens due to ignorance about race and culture and you will suffer huge for it. Especially with oil being as low as it is, this will crush Nordic economies.

In fact, I would argue that the poor in your countries are already at lower standards that the USA, but the relevant statistics have not been produced to reveal it yet. And they probably will not be produced for years and years from now, given how freedom of information is censored by your tyrannical governments.

Also, I would add that the reason homelessness is so bad in the USA is because of terrible property and housing laws. The houses are kept artificially expensive due to bailouts and other market manipulations, and no one can settle or cultivate the land because either the state or federal government "owns" it, so it just sits unused for 99% of the time. These are political problems that can be fixed, however. We won't need to worry about sparking massive wars due cultural conflicts with the world's most violent religion.

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Quote: (01-22-2016 10:52 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

The standard of living is definitely not high in the Sweden and Germany.

The poor are better off in those countries ofcourse, but anyone from lower-middle class and up is better off in the US. In Germany, a Doctor lives more or less has the same quality of life as a guy who works at Aldi or Marktkauf.

In the US, fresh Engineering graduates can comfortably land a job that pays 60-80k a year. In Germany, they're lucky to find a job period. If they do they're looking at 30-40k Euros with higher taxes and a higher cost of living.
The average is around 45-50k after graduation. But yes, not very high.
There are limits to success in Germany and Sweden. Doesn't matter how smart, talented or hard working you are. At some point the government just caps you and says " STOP ... that's enough for you". In America there are no limits.
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A gym membership will cost you 100-150 Euros in Germany. In America, most Rec centers charge $25. Planet fitness just $10 a month.
Cheap chain gyms are between 15 and 25€/month

Forget eating out in Europe. I studied in Germany for a little bit over a year and i think i might have eaten out twice. In America, any guy with a non-minimum wage job can go out and eat semi-regularly because service based industries tend to be cheap. 9 dollar Chinese buffets don't exist in Europe.
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In Germany, getting a drivers license costs 2500 Euros. Yes two thousand five hundred. In America it costs $25. 1/1000th of the price. Getting a car in America? Easy. $1500 down with an affordable payment plan and you can drive off with a car of your choice. Europe? Better save cold hard cash to buy a gay ass Opel.
True. But would you survive a Friday afternoon on the left lane of the Autobahn after buying your 25$ license? NO
Germany and Sweden are great countries for women. They favor security over risk taking and glory. They're both hellholes for men with an iota of intelligence, work ethic and a sense of freedom.
Cuckmany, yes. It's hard to be an entrepreneur, yes.
Fuck those cucks.

Edit: There are some advantages like being able to drink in public. Also the fact that if you mess up in life, there is a safety net that will keep you from falling through the cracks. In America, you get 2 DUI's when you're in party mode at 19 and you're fucked for the rest of your life. Get a felony? Bye Bye professional jobs. Europe's justice system is definitely more geared towards rehabilitation than the money grubbing witch-hunt the American justice system has become.

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Quote: (01-23-2016 09:40 AM)void Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 10:52 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

Forget eating out in Europe. I studied in Germany for a little bit over a year and i think i might have eaten out twice. In America, any guy with a non-minimum wage job can go out and eat semi-regularly because service based industries tend to be cheap. 9 dollar Chinese buffets don't exist in Europe.
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Bullshit.
I could name at least about a dozen Chinese restaurants here in Vienna alone that offer buffets for that prize. Many restaurants have lunch specials for around six to eight Euro, and fast food is even cheaper.
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Quote: (01-22-2016 10:52 PM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  

The standard of living is definitely not high in the Sweden and Germany.

The poor are better off in those countries ofcourse, but anyone from lower-middle class and up is better off in the US. In Germany, a Doctor lives more or less has the same quality of life as a guy who works at Aldi or Marktkauf.

This is more or less true. Maybe not like Aldi guy (I think those make min salary) but certainly like an average office pen-pusher. I could never understand this american obsession with doctors.It is just unnatural for Europe.In Europe (including the UK) they are in the middle of the sexual hierarchy ladder, women simply don't find them attractive, and money is not the last reason. And in EE doctors are on the bottom of any ladder, only weirdos and outcasts end up doing medicine (medical courses are also not competitive there).
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

Quote: (01-23-2016 08:41 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 08:14 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Quote: (01-22-2016 12:51 PM)Vicious Wrote:  

What is the point of having a discussion forum if every thread turns into a race thread?

Race and culture has nothing to do with anything guys

What does this trollish vid/comment have anything to do with the thread topic? Have you made it your goal in life to derail all threads on the forum?

You pump out half a dozen posts every day, all in the EE forum about race. Isn't it about time you left the house, all this bitter hate can't be good for your outlook on life.

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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

I think I recall seeing a poll a few years ago that showed most Germans would prefer it if their country was more like Switzerland.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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Sweden, Germany poorer than most US states

USA Unemployment

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-29...unemployed (article from 2014, so the numbers are much worse)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-27...nt-over-12

http://rense.com/general53/hisi.htm

Unemployment facts are usually distorted to make the numbers look good in any country, the true rates in Canada are alot higher than what is reported.

Can we please stop with the "who's got a bigger dick" threads!

I have been to Sweden, Germany and USA, I can tell you all of them have good points and all of them have bad points. It boils down to which points suit you the most.

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