[General Stalin]

Always try to end things smoothly with a broad if you can muster it.

I was banging this nice Zimbabwean girl last year for months. Totally smoked that one to the filter - I'd say we started banging in Nov/Dec and continued to hang out and hook up until probably March/April. Last time we hung out she said she started seeing someone and I said "Good for you! Good luck" and she thanked me.

Fast forward a few months (Now it's August/September) and she texts me out of the blue. "Would it be weird if I wanted to hang out?" "only weird if you make it weird haha." We hooked up all month until I left town.

Boomerang girls man. If you play your cards half decent and don't give 'em a reason to totally reject you then they may come back around.

[OregonToSoCal]

(10-29-2015 04:58 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Always try to end things smoothly with a broad if you can muster it.

I was banging this nice Zimbabwean girl last year for months. Totally smoked that one to the filter - I'd say we started banging in Nov/Dec and continued to hang out and hook up until probably March/April. Last time we hung out she said she started seeing someone and I said "Good for you! Good luck" and she thanked me.

Fast forward a few months (Now it's August/September) and she texts me out of the blue. "Would it be weird if I wanted to hang out?" "only weird if you make it weird haha." We hooked up all month until I left town.

Boomerang girls man. If you play your cards half decent and don't give 'em a reason to totally reject you then they may come back around.

I follow a lot of dating coach Corey Wayne's principles and he always preaches that if a woman chooses another guy over you to never get butthurt, be gracious and leave the door open by saying "give me a call if it doesn't work out" and then cut all contact from there. You're conveying that you won't chase her but she knows she's welcome back in the future.

Many times the guy she chose over you will have screwed up, acted too needy and turned her off and she'll realize how easy and fun it was being with you and she'll come knocking on your door again.

[SomeFcksGiven]

(10-29-2015 03:16 PM)germanico Wrote:  

1- If you already banged her, then theres no friendzone. The friendzone is where the guys who act friendly thinking that will get them the bang are. You banged= no friendzone.

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Slowly but surely it seems she's doing the fade out over the last couple of weeks. Her excitement and interest levels seemed to be dwindling.

Have you gotten a second bang?

Seems to me you are "gaming" her, romancing, being "nice" as a way to get into "comfort" but the one thing you are not doing is banging her brains out. She wanted sex out of the deal, hence the SNL, Same, Night, Lay. All she is getting now are attempts to make it "exciting and interesting" but no dick, so, she is fading out.

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She recently mentioned that she wasn't looking for anything serious. So just yesterday, out of the blue, I straight up asked her if she was down with a FWB arrangement.

Ok, so she had just told you she just wanted sex, and you asked her if she would be down for a FWB arrangement? Imagine her disappointment. Here on the forum we mock those "consent" protocols that have you asking her if she is ok with it everytime you escalate. Thats exactly what you are doing.

Your problem is that you are NEGOTIATING. Those things are not talked about, you just do them.

She put out without requiring any dates, attachements or arrangements. She fucked you the night she met you, assuming thats what you understand as "SNL". And THEN, you ASK her if she would be down to fuck without any strings attached?

Really?

No second bang. After the first night she was saying hamster things like "I only sleep with guys that I'm in a relationship with.." I knew this was bullshit, since I just banged her the first night we hung out. After this type of conversation kept coming up with her, I decided to play along and qualify her: "What is it about you that would make you an awesome girlfriend?"

She took the bait, eagerly starting listing all her girlfriend qualities and
qualifying herself to me.

Knowing that she was fresh out of a breakup and still had feelings for her ex, I said "That all sounds awesome. If things were a little different and you didn't still have feelings for your ex I think we'd be pretty amazing together."

Then she said it was too soon for anything serious (which I already anticipated). My thinking was that by throwing out the possible LTR out there she'd see an open door with us down the road.

Over the next week or two she started being less enthusiastic about us. That's when I started sensing the LJBF about to hit. Knowing that she loved sex and wasn't ready for a serious relationship, that's when I threw out the FWB suggestion.

Probably not the smoothest move based on all these replies. It happens. I'm still banging my plates and getting new prospects. Maybe she'll come back around when she's feeling lonely and horny. Stranger things have happened to me when I wasn't expecting it.

[AneroidOcean]

(10-30-2015 09:35 AM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(10-29-2015 03:16 PM)germanico Wrote:  

1- If you already banged her, then theres no friendzone. The friendzone is where the guys who act friendly thinking that will get them the bang are. You banged= no friendzone.

No second bang. After the first night she was saying hamster things like "I only sleep with guys that I'm in a relationship with.." I knew this was bullshit, since I just banged her the first night we hung out. After this type of conversation kept coming up with her, I decided to play along and qualify her: "What is it about you that would make you an awesome girlfriend?"

She took the bait, eagerly starting listing all her girlfriend qualities and
qualifying herself to me.

Knowing that she was fresh out of a breakup and still had feelings for her ex, I said "That all sounds awesome. If things were a little different and you didn't still have feelings for your ex I think we'd be pretty amazing together."

Then she said it was too soon for anything serious (which I already anticipated). My thinking was that by throwing out the possible LTR out there she'd see an open door with us down the road.

Over the next week or two she started being less enthusiastic about us. That's when I started sensing the LJBF about to hit. Knowing that she loved sex and wasn't ready for a serious relationship, that's when I threw out the FWB suggestion.

Probably not the smoothest move based on all these replies. It happens. I'm still banging my plates and getting new prospects. Maybe she'll come back around when she's feeling lonely and horny. Stranger things have happened to me when I wasn't expecting it.

Actually, germanico is wrong. There is a friend zone. It's the zone you're in where she can get something from you but she isn't turned on by you.

You turned her off so completely that you jumped right from the bang zone back to the friend zone.

You thought you were continuing to qualify her by giving her a backhanded compliment and disqualifying her with the comment about the ex, but you put yourself RIGHT into the friend zone by bringing up her ex AND bringing up a relationship with her.

Even though you were disqualifying her when bringing up her ex, you brought up another guy (there's almost zero legitimate reason to ever do this and almost always means you're worried about the competition, it shows weakness and lack of frame control). Further, you brought up a relationship and the context doesn't really affect the fact that you were escalating relationship/commitment. Your job as a man is to pursue physical escalation. HER role is to escalate relationship/commitment.

Learn this dynamic and you will go much further with women.

Also, look at your thought process. You want to make sure she knows there's a possible "open door" for her having a relationship in the future. What exactly about this do you think would make a woman more interested or more aroused? Basically you're saying with that "I'm super emotionally available if we get to that point" and she's thinking, "I want to date a man, not a woman"

[SomeFcksGiven]

Believe me I didn't want to go there (bringing up her ex). Every time she'd hang out with me she was constantly bringing him up in the conversation. I'd usually just make a cheeky quip about it and change the subject.

I've been at this long enough to know that it's not a good idea to talk about ex's, yours or hers. After the 100th time she brought him up I decided to play along and qualify her. It wasn't the best idea, but I was tired of hearing her constantly talk about him.

[HankMoody]

(10-29-2015 05:28 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(10-29-2015 04:58 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  

Always try to end things smoothly with a broad if you can muster it.

I was banging this nice Zimbabwean girl last year for months. Totally smoked that one to the filter - I'd say we started banging in Nov/Dec and continued to hang out and hook up until probably March/April. Last time we hung out she said she started seeing someone and I said "Good for you! Good luck" and she thanked me.

Fast forward a few months (Now it's August/September) and she texts me out of the blue. "Would it be weird if I wanted to hang out?" "only weird if you make it weird haha." We hooked up all month until I left town.

Boomerang girls man. If you play your cards half decent and don't give 'em a reason to totally reject you then they may come back around.

I follow a lot of dating coach Corey Wayne's principles and he always preaches that if a woman chooses another guy over you to never get butthurt, be gracious and leave the door open by saying "give me a call if it doesn't work out" and then cut all contact from there. You're conveying that you won't chase her but she knows she's welcome back in the future.

Many times the guy she chose over you will have screwed up, acted too needy and turned her off and she'll realize how easy and fun it was being with you and she'll come knocking on your door again.

Ha, I was out with a lady friend of mine the other night discussing something similar...

"Hank, I heard you went out on a date with [Solid 9] this week. You got her VIP tickets to that concert and all. Did you two hook up?"
"No. It went pretty well at first. We flirted all night, but I got blown out by another dude at the end of the night."
"Fuck that! Did you get pissed?"
"Nah. We had a good time. It doesn't matter. And just remember - a bang failed today might be a bang had tomorrow."
"LOL Hank, you are so fucked up!"
"I aim to please."

[Easy_C]

(10-27-2015 01:03 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Have any of you tried a tactic like this? What are your thoughts?

Brad Pitt Rule, brother. Use it always.

[General Stalin]

(10-31-2015 10:28 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 01:03 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Have any of you tried a tactic like this? What are your thoughts?

Brad Pitt Rule, brother. Use it always.

Girls will always push aside other shit for whatever their priorities are. If you are attractive enough to them, physically and/or emotionally, then they will move mountains.

[SomeFcksGiven]

Small update: Word got back to her about me having a hot date at a Halloween party last night, and her hamster engaged. She sent me a couple of texts about it.. dread/jealousy game in action.

Next move suggestions anyone?

To be continued..

[HankMoody]

(11-01-2015 03:26 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Small update: Word got back to her about me having a hot date at a Halloween party last night, and her hamster engaged. She sent me a couple of texts about it.. dread/jealousy game in action.

Next move suggestions anyone?

To be continued..

This is a tough one because she was kind of "meh" at the beginning. Resetting the frame is much harder than never losing it in the first place.

I'd let it play out, continue to see other girls, and make her chase you. If she doesn't, the interest level isn't high enough in the first place. It happens. Practically, I'd be a little bit distant with the texting and see if she tries to engage you. You'd be surprised how blunt and direct women are if they want to see you. If this doesn't work and she walks, her interest level was low anyway. Then randomly throw something out like "ill be at joes bar around 8:30 2nite. come grab a drink w me" and see how she reacts. If she doesn't either say yes or give you an alternative, you're wasting time. In which case, just ignore her unless she wants to hang out.

I've found that one of the key aspects of game is abundance mentality. If they walk, so what? Just keep doing you. Once you've got enough going on, they'll climb mountains, swim the sea, and do whatever it takes to be part of your life. When a girl is into you, they'll leave very little doubt in your mind.

[SomeFcksGiven]

(11-01-2015 03:35 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:26 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Small update: Word got back to her about me having a hot date at a Halloween party last night, and her hamster engaged. She sent me a couple of texts about it.. dread/jealousy game in action.

Next move suggestions anyone?

To be continued..

This is a tough one because she was kind of "meh" at the beginning. Resetting the frame is much harder than never losing it in the first place.

I'd let it play out, continue to see other girls, and make her chase you. If she doesn't, the interest level isn't high enough in the first place. It happens. Practically, I'd be a little bit distant with the texting and see if she tries to engage you. You'd be surprised how blunt and direct women are if they want to see you. If this doesn't work and she walks, her interest level was low anyway. Then randomly throw something out like "ill be at joes bar around 8:30 2nite. come grab a drink w me" and see how she reacts. If she doesn't either say yes or give you an alternative, you're wasting time. In which case, just ignore her unless she wants to hang out.

I've found that one of the key aspects of game is abundance mentality. If they walk, so what? Just keep doing you. Once you've got enough going on, they'll climb mountains, swim the sea, and do whatever it takes to be part of your life. When a girl is into you, they'll leave very little doubt in your mind.

Stellar as always, Hank. That's my move. Keep seeing other girls and stop chasing her. Maybe she'll chase when she's feeling lonely or horny. If not, the new pussy from last night is a tasty cure for this case of one-itis

[HankMoody]

(11-01-2015 05:51 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:35 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:26 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Small update: Word got back to her about me having a hot date at a Halloween party last night, and her hamster engaged. She sent me a couple of texts about it.. dread/jealousy game in action.

Next move suggestions anyone?

To be continued..

This is a tough one because she was kind of "meh" at the beginning. Resetting the frame is much harder than never losing it in the first place.

I'd let it play out, continue to see other girls, and make her chase you. If she doesn't, the interest level isn't high enough in the first place. It happens. Practically, I'd be a little bit distant with the texting and see if she tries to engage you. You'd be surprised how blunt and direct women are if they want to see you. If this doesn't work and she walks, her interest level was low anyway. Then randomly throw something out like "ill be at joes bar around 8:30 2nite. come grab a drink w me" and see how she reacts. If she doesn't either say yes or give you an alternative, you're wasting time. In which case, just ignore her unless she wants to hang out.

I've found that one of the key aspects of game is abundance mentality. If they walk, so what? Just keep doing you. Once you've got enough going on, they'll climb mountains, swim the sea, and do whatever it takes to be part of your life. When a girl is into you, they'll leave very little doubt in your mind.

Stellar as always, Hank. That's my move. Keep seeing other girls and stop chasing her. Maybe she'll chase when she's feeling lonely or horny. If not, the new pussy from last night is a tasty cure for this case of one-itis

Another point...

When I first started out, I used to send texts like "My time is valuable" or "Don't waste my time." I thought that was "alpha". However, that comes off as extremely feminine and needy.

When you blow her off, be really non-chalant and cool about it. A good exchange would look like this:

(her) "Hey!"
[hours or even two days later]
(you) "sup"
"Really? Two days later?"
"was at [some concert]. sup"
"Just wondering what you're up to, that's all..."
"ill be at joes bar around 730 tonight. catch up over shots"
"I'm a little busy tonight, another time."
[no response]

(at this point when you don't respond, she'll either pursue you or you've been blown out)

If you have to express your value, or tell her your time is valuable, you're basically telling her it's not. Instead, simply act like your time is valuable.

No response is always better than a response like "k" or "sounds good" or "maybe." It basically says "stop wasting my fucking time. You either want to hang out or you don't."

Selectively not responding is one of the most powerful tools you have. It's like the pregnant pause in a conversation. She'll either take the bait and the initiative, or she won't.

[UroboricForms]

(11-01-2015 06:28 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 05:51 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:35 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

(11-01-2015 03:26 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

Small update: Word got back to her about me having a hot date at a Halloween party last night, and her hamster engaged. She sent me a couple of texts about it.. dread/jealousy game in action.

Next move suggestions anyone?

To be continued..

This is a tough one because she was kind of "meh" at the beginning. Resetting the frame is much harder than never losing it in the first place.

I'd let it play out, continue to see other girls, and make her chase you. If she doesn't, the interest level isn't high enough in the first place. It happens. Practically, I'd be a little bit distant with the texting and see if she tries to engage you. You'd be surprised how blunt and direct women are if they want to see you. If this doesn't work and she walks, her interest level was low anyway. Then randomly throw something out like "ill be at joes bar around 8:30 2nite. come grab a drink w me" and see how she reacts. If she doesn't either say yes or give you an alternative, you're wasting time. In which case, just ignore her unless she wants to hang out.

I've found that one of the key aspects of game is abundance mentality. If they walk, so what? Just keep doing you. Once you've got enough going on, they'll climb mountains, swim the sea, and do whatever it takes to be part of your life. When a girl is into you, they'll leave very little doubt in your mind.

Stellar as always, Hank. That's my move. Keep seeing other girls and stop chasing her. Maybe she'll chase when she's feeling lonely or horny. If not, the new pussy from last night is a tasty cure for this case of one-itis

Another point...

When I first started out, I used to send texts like "My time is valuable" or "Don't waste my time." I thought that was "alpha". However, that comes off as extremely feminine and needy.

When you blow her off, be really non-chalant and cool about it. A good exchange would look like this:

(her) "Hey!"
[hours or even two days later]
(you) "sup"
"Really? Two days later?"
"was at [some concert]. sup"
"Just wondering what you're up to, that's all..."
"ill be at joes bar around 730 tonight. catch up over shots"
"I'm a little busy tonight, another time."
[no response]

(at this point when you don't respond, she'll either pursue you or you've been blown out)

If you have to express your value, or tell her your time is valuable, you're basically telling her it's not. Instead, simply act like your time is valuable.

No response is always better than a response like "k" or "sounds good" or "maybe." It basically says "stop wasting my fucking time. You either want to hang out or you don't."

Selectively not responding is one of the most powerful tools you have. It's like the pregnant pause in a conversation. She'll either take the bait and the initiative, or she won't.

[Rawmeo]

Do not ask a girl if this is okay. Just do it and assume it is okay. You shouldn't "ask" a girl to be FWB. It just happens naturally and evolves over time. Though I'd say, during a totally normal conversation unrelated to your situation, that men and woman can't be plain friends.

Pre-nuking it doesn't always work, though.

[SomeFcksGiven]

(11-02-2015 02:27 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

...men and woman can't be plain friends.

Truth. The only exception being if the girl is unfuckable

And yeah, I agree that verbalizing the FWB thing was a bad move.

Another small update. She called me last night, and was very engaged with a flirty vibe. I played it cool and kept her laughing. After we talked for about half an hour I told her I had to go, I had things to do. It's always best to be the one who ends the conversation first. I'm thinking that from this point I'll maintain radio silence with her, and let her be the one who initiates.

[Deepdiver]

I find the best course of action with a flirty fence sitter is to go out and get NEW action and plenty of it.

Keep a few in rotation until one naturally self promotes to an FWB or Live in FWB (enthusiastic Maid, Cook, Sex Goddess) and sends you to work with a skip in your step as she goes out to work as well.

Basically two types of women in 2015 - earners and burners.

An earner is one who will work with you towards common financial and lifestyle goals (Marriage not required) and burners are women looking to burn through your resources and move on to the next beta provider schmuck.

Think like a techno pimp and you will not be disappointed - women come women go and a few who prove themselves useful on all levels may stick around as long as you want them to - as soon as you get emotionally attached or needy or "fall madly in love with your soul mate" now in the day of social media and tinder - might as well just stick a fork into yourself as you are cooked and done.

[LA Savage]

(11-01-2015 03:35 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

I've found that one of the key aspects of game is abundance mentality. If they walk, so what? Just keep doing you. Once you've got enough going on, they'll climb mountains, swim the sea, and do whatever it takes to be part of your life. When a girl is into you, they'll leave very little doubt in your mind.

Abundance Mentality and Always Be Replacing Not Chasing These Bitches.

I completely agree with you on girl if they are really attracted to you will do whatever it takes to be with you.

My Best Friend is Mr. Tall Dark and Handsome standing at 6 feet 5 inches and after all these years it still amazes me how he still has bitches doing whatever it takes to get his attention so that he can fuck them. He's showed me the numerous sexual texts girls sends him, the naked pictures they send him through text and naked pictures and videos they send him on snapchat. It's funny because he keeps them at a safe distance since he is very serious with his school work so he is constantly flaking and rescheduling on these girls and it drives them crazy to the point where they try even harder to get his attention and send him more sexual stuff. I've seen him get girls to drive down to his place at 3am in the morning just so that he can fuck them and tell them to leave when he wakes up. I've seen girls with boyfriends and even married women hit on him in a flirtatious manner and in a very direct manner. He has even had girls who live 1-2 hours away drive down to meet up with him and get fucked.
He tells the girls before he fucks them that he is not looking for a relationship as he is too busy with his school work and they still agree and continue to see him casually and then within a few weeks they start falling in love with him because apparently he makes them feel special somehow.

But at the end of the day he puts his family and close friends along with school above any of the girls he meets and doesn't let any girl slow him down. I really respect this man, his morals and values hence why he's been my best friend for years.

(11-01-2015 06:28 PM)HankMoody Wrote:  

When I first started out, I used to send texts like "My time is valuable" or "Don't waste my time." I thought that was "alpha". However, that comes off as extremely feminine and needy.

When you blow her off, be really non-chalant and cool about it. A good exchange would look like this:

(her) "Hey!"
[hours or even two days later]
(you) "sup"
"Really? Two days later?"
"was at [some concert]. sup"
"Just wondering what you're up to, that's all..."
"ill be at joes bar around 730 tonight. catch up over shots"
"I'm a little busy tonight, another time."
[no response]

(at this point when you don't respond, she'll either pursue you or you've been blown out)

If you have to express your value, or tell her your time is valuable, you're basically telling her it's not. Instead, simply act like your time is valuable.

No response is always better than a response like "k" or "sounds good" or "maybe." It basically says "stop wasting my fucking time. You either want to hang out or you don't."

Selectively not responding is one of the most powerful tools you have. It's like the pregnant pause in a conversation. She'll either take the bait and the initiative, or she won't.

Excellent post again HankMoody I had to rep you for it. Lately you have been on fire with your post and I want to personally thank you for the amazing advice you have been giving out members here on the forum especially since you provide the advice and examples of how to use.

[YossariansRight]

I read this thread a couple days ago and have been thinking it over. Here's my 2 cents:

Don't ask, just do. You're either laying your pipe in her or your not.

If/when things inevitably break down, of course the mature thing to do is to go your own way civilly and without drama. Who the fuck wants another enemy or shit to deal with?

As far as restarts go, I personally don't believe in them. Like I posted above^^^ you're either laying your pipe in her or your not. If it ended, it ended for a reason.

Move on. "Keeping the door open" reeks of desperation to me. Focus your energy on who you are banging and on new acquisitions.

[AneroidOcean]

(11-04-2015 03:00 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

Move on. "Keeping the door open" reeks of desperation to me. Focus your energy on who you are banging and on new acquisitions.

You're probably misunderstanding what "keeping the door open" means.

Think of adjoining hotel rooms where there's a doorway in between them. There are TWO doors. Hers and yours. If you don't lock yours and throw away the key, when hers is open again you can walk right on in and fuck her brains out (if you choose).

It's not keeping the door open and watching it day and night hoping that she'll walk back in. That would definitely be desperation.

No need to burn a bridge, basically.

[YossariansRight]

(11-04-2015 03:05 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(11-04-2015 03:00 PM)YossariansRight Wrote:  

Move on. "Keeping the door open" reeks of desperation to me. Focus your energy on who you are banging and on new acquisitions.

You're probably misunderstanding what "keeping the door open" means.

Think of adjoining hotel rooms where there's a doorway in between them. There are TWO doors. Hers and yours. If you don't lock yours and throw away the key, when hers is open again you can walk right on in and fuck her brains out (if you choose).

It's not keeping the door open and watching it day and night hoping that she'll walk back in. That would definitely be desperation.

No need to burn a bridge, basically.

I get it. That's why I wrote: "Who the fuck wants another enemy or shit to deal with?" IOW, right, no need to burn a bridge.

[juancito98]

I told a girl once if we are going to be friends, I need to go find other girls to date or attract. Do not know stay friends if she is going to turn into an emotional tampon or beta male orbiter. You can stay friends if it is built on mutual common interests and not be a one sided supplicating butler while she is getting intimate with some other guy. I just stopped speaking to a girl for months, met other girls, and talked back to her. Things are less awkward and the feelings dissipate. Girls need to understand that becoming friends with a guy do not automatically take the feelings away. It is soft way of rejection to relieve the girl of any guilt turning. It only intensifies the feelings if you still have contact with her and have to bury those feelings inside while some other guy is doing the romantic/sexual things with her. Who wants to deal with that? But then girls throw the guilt trip that if you refuse the friendship offer, you are a bad guy who does not care about her. You are one who feelings got hurt so you take the responsibility to go meet girls who like you in a romantic/sexual way instead of staying stuck as a castrated beta male orbiter.

[1026]

Just a thought.

In Game, women come & go.

King Solomon is said to have 700 wives & 300 concubines,
& that's just what's on record.

But you're not a Biblical Character are you?

As such, it's only logical that women fall in & out.

So what's a player to do?

If you're butthurt, then the only option is to calmly walk away.
No other reaction will serve you best.

If you let the natural eventualities of Game run off your back like water does a duck's back.
Then you're in prime position to snap up that rebound like a young Charles Barkley.

[Vincent Chase]

There's a difference between leaving a door open and reeking of fucking desperation. As a side note Corey Wayne is alright, but he does come out with a load of nonsense sometimes including in his book something like "if you're just looking for sex then get a whore" or something of that nature.

I would usually leave it with a "good luck <thumbs up>" message if she tells me she has a boyfriend (after fucking her already). Anything slightly more like "let me know if you want to get in touch in the future" is needy. If you get angry at her it's even worse, she will literally laugh at your face. She might as well make you watch her new boyfriend with the 9 inch golden penis fuck her while you're sitting in the corner crying.

If you are an abundant man you would never say that. For example I had two girls come straight to my place yesterday. Originally planned to meet both in the city around the same time. With enough abundance and not giving a fuck I just played both and told them some story of how cold it is outside and that we should chill instead. Asked to order one of them a taxi, I told her that maybe she's confused with a fat old man she met in sugardaddy.com. 5 minutes later, I get "haha, see you soon".

Stop fucking caring, these girls don't make your life, you do.

They can tell straight away if they have your balls in their bag, and if they do you're finished.