[The Wire]

(11-01-2015 04:14 AM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

The way I see it is :
The guys who mainly game social circle tend to be traditionalists. They are tradion preserving maybe not only in their game but also they might have a traditional career path (like doctors etc).

Social circle encompasses basically how the majority of humans mate so it's kind of silly to group it like that. Johnny Manziel used social circle game to fuck any girl at Texas A&M. Just because the majority of office drones use social circle doesn't take away from the guys who have social circles that allow them access to women. It is extremely important if your social circle is lacking that you have options like day game

[worldtraveler3]

What explains the lack of initiative to do day game for majority of the population that go the social circle route?
For a large percent of people their social circle don't give them the 8 or 9 they want (these girls also play hard to get in social circles as well).

[The Wire]

(11-01-2015 05:44 PM)worldtraveler3 Wrote:  

What explains the lack of initiative to do day game for majority of the population that go the social circle route?

I would guess it's in our dna to fear unfamiliar people. I read 80% of babies show a fear of strangers at 8-12 months which then starts to fade. I don't think we are naturally inclined to do cold approach which can be really weird for some during the day alone without being drunk. Social circle route is what were are naturally inclined to do which is why the majority of people who are married or dating meet their partners through social circle. Being able to do day game(or even night game well) is almost like a life hack for most.

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For a large percent of people their social circle don't give them the 8 or 9 they want (these girls also play hard to get in social circles as well).

100% agree. If everyone on this forum was best friends with an upper level celebrity you this place would be empty.

[Dawn_Snow]

(10-22-2015 06:31 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  

Today was one of those days that had me metaphorically banging my own head against the wall, I'm in the midst of one of the worst dry spells I've had in years, and by my own admission have been in a mix of a funk(slight depression), in combination with a monk mode, MGTOW vibe and attitude of late.

Now I know monk mode and MGTOW are the opposite of how you want to act if you want to get laid, and I do want to get laid, but I'm hitting a mental impasse, in the sense that my dick and libido wants to smash ass all day, but my mind is just so sick of the sixes who think their nines, the B.S., the flaking, the ghosting, entitled attitudes, lying, and games that virtually all American women who are 7 or better are engaging in.

So today I made a shopping day, went to the main town of the area, and hit target, CostCo, and the Natural Foods Grocery store, rarely I see too many hotties during the day, but today all three stores were stacked from college age girls to early forty trophy wife MILF types.

Lately I've kind of dropped out of the game scene, due to the fact that I'm getting older and lack the patience for the bar/night game scene which was my bread and butter for years after learning game. I've never been much of a day gamer, I find it to be really tough, and few target rich environments, among other logistical factors.

Online game in my area is atrocious, and I've literally come close to deleting tinder three times, but always end up matching some hotties, only to have the same B.S. process repeat over and over again. Which is that I match them, we exchange a few messages if they even respond, and then once I suggest a meet up to get a drink, coffee, etc., they go ghost and stop replying all together.

So which leads me to my point, which is that I'm starting to think where I'm at literally and metaphorically, day game is starting to become the main option to meet women as I go out to the bars once every two weeks, social circle game is non-existent, and online game is a joke.

However, the problem I'm having for one is getting over the mental hurdle of approaching during the day time, then once I overcome that hurdle, I deal with other logistical issues like lack of window to run solid game, amongst other technical issues.

I've read Day Bang and tried to apply it, did get a number from Roosh's model right after finish reading it which lead to a date, but nothing really to show after that. One issue that I have with Roosh's model is that I find it works best for a situation like a coffee shop where the girl is not necessarily in a huge rush and is just lingering and hanging out. In that case you can go elderly opener, and transition to other conversation topics, and she's not necessarily racing to catch a bus, or has to go to work, etc.

So today I'm seeing all these hot women and thinking I need to approach, but in a situation like at Costco, grocery store, etc., I find that women are less likely to want to stand there in the aisle and indulge your elderly game, they're more likely to say oh yeah I like that pasta sauce then keep it moving, and unless your a master of conversation it leaves you kind of grasping for straws to keep the conversation moving forward.

I'm starting to think that a more direct approach may be better, although both methods have their pros and cons. Going direct is more high risk/high reward, it leaves the potential to crash and burn, but at least it cuts to the point and makes your intentions clear, and doesn't beat around the bush.

The approach I'm thinking of is something along the lines of "excuse me, I know this may seem kind of random, but you caught my eye from across the aisle, I think you're very beautiful and wanted to come over and introduce myself."

This method requires a lot more confidence and frame control, but I feel like if you can pull it off it will make you look like a badass and immediately screen out chicks, because if they respond well you're intentions have been made clear and thus should give a higher chance of them coming through, versus a more ambiguous indirect approach. Plus it cuts the chase a bit more and won't require 10-20 minutes of conversation like an indirect elderly approach, which may not be feasible if a woman is intent of getting stuff done and going on with her day.

Is anyone running more direct day game like this? I know thing method is kind of easier said then done, and require more balls than an elderly opener, I understand Roosh's logic in not scaring away the cat, but if the chances are that the cat doesn't have much time to chat, or will flake anyway, wouldn't more direct be the way?

Shit, I think I just need to hit rock bottom to I get to the point where I stop giving a fuck and approach any women I want to bang, and even if 95% reject me at least I will be giving myself the opportunity to find one who does want to have sex, whereas I'm not approaching really at all now, so I'm at 100% chances of not getting laid, unless one approaches me, which rarely occurs.

I do Day Game exclusively. Day game can be frustrating but I would not go direct unless I was attractive. Cernovich has a great post about how to tell if you're attractive. If you are great; if not stick to indirect game. Breaking a dry spell is tough and learning a new type of game is a good thing. But have you tried pulling back and focusing on improving your lifestyle? You can lift or start a side business. At a certain point more game won't help you. Again Cernovich has a post called "Lifestyle Game" on Danger and Play.

I remember during my last dry spell I tried gaming more and more girls and nothing worked. I spent most of my free time gaming. I only broke the dry spell when I pulled back from game and started lifting and focusing more on my career.