Strange they haven't released details yet?
New media guidelines or maybe because they suspect more people could be involved?
New media guidelines or maybe because they suspect more people could be involved?
Quote: (10-01-2015 07:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:
If this is the guy, the shooting will be pinned on us or allies within two days
Quote: (10-01-2015 07:37 PM)Devilton Wrote:
Quote: (10-01-2015 07:23 PM)Roosh Wrote:
Fast forward to 5:08....
Assuming this is the shooter, which it may not be...
He was deeply pained from getting rejected by women.
He is deeply anti-feminist, shared newbie level red pill ideas.
If this is the guy, the shooting will be pinned on us or allies within two days
That guy is extremely unlikely to be actually the shooter. It's a trolling attempt of some 4chan users, the guy is someone they make fun of for a while now, ever since he started to post on 4chan without hiding his identity. He is a 4chan 'celebrity' who wrote on the same board the shooter supposedly (and anonymously) announced the shooting yesterday, so they use him to troll.
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:08 PM)iop890 Wrote:
Shooter confirmed: Chris Harper Mercer
26 year old atheist
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...munity-co/
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:08 PM)iop890 Wrote:
Shooter confirmed: Chris Harper Mercer
26 year old atheist I don't know, reading a lot of conflicting stuff.
Will update later.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...munity-co/
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:17 PM)SunW Wrote:
Same name, but this person is claiming he was a #BlackLivesMatter supporter. If this is correct, it may explain why it took so long for them to identify who it was; usually this is out very quickly.
We'll have to see if this holds though.
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:29 PM)RioNomad Wrote:These people were not supermen, trained soldiers,or police- they were community college students. The average person believes they can be rational,or that there is a reason for the violence occurring so they attempt to negotiate. Let me put it like this, on September 10,2001 if a bunch of Middle Eastern guys attempted to hijack a plane you were on would you fight them or ride it out?
It seems like people would catch on pretty quickly to say no.
But really, if everyone was lined up, why didn't they rush him? I know easier said than done, but if he literally had people lined up and was shooting them one at a time while talking to them, it seems like there would have been opportunity to grab and hold the barrel of his gun while everyone else dog piled on his ass. Did they just sit there execution style while one gunman went down the line shooting them?
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:29 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
It seems like people would catch on pretty quickly to say no.
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These people were not supermen, trained soldiers,or police- they were community college students. The average person believes they can be rational,or that there is a reason for the violence occurring so they attempt to negotiate. Let me put it like this, on September 10,2001 if a bunch of Middle Eastern guys attempted to hijack a plane you were on would you fight them or ride it out?
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:29 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
It seems like people would catch on pretty quickly to say no.
But really, if everyone was lined up, why didn't they rush him? I know easier said than done, but if he literally had people lined up and was shooting them one at a time while talking to them, it seems like there would have been opportunity to grab and hold the barrel of his gun while everyone else dog piled on his ass. Did they just sit there execution style while one gunman went down the line shooting them?
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Quote: (10-01-2015 08:08 PM)iop890 Wrote:
Shooter confirmed: Chris Harper Mercer
26 year old atheist I don't know, reading a lot of conflicting stuff.
Will update later.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015...munity-co/
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:42 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:29 PM)RioNomad Wrote:These people were not supermen, trained soldiers,or police- they were community college students. The average person believes they can be rational,or that there is a reason for the violence occurring so they attempt to negotiate. Let me put it like this, on September 10,2001 if a bunch of Middle Eastern guys attempted to hijack a plane you were on would you fight them or ride it out?
It seems like people would catch on pretty quickly to say no.
But really, if everyone was lined up, why didn't they rush him? I know easier said than done, but if he literally had people lined up and was shooting them one at a time while talking to them, it seems like there would have been opportunity to grab and hold the barrel of his gun while everyone else dog piled on his ass. Did they just sit there execution style while one gunman went down the line shooting them?
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:42 PM)Peregrine Wrote:
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:29 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
It seems like people would catch on pretty quickly to say no.
Some Christians, particularly evangelicals, consider denying God to be worse than death.
Quote: (10-01-2015 08:59 PM)LeeEnfield303 Wrote:
Remember the DC Metro killing a month or so ago...and that was a knife.
I'm sure the NY Times author who said, "Modern man doesn't have a gun, and has no need of one" could offer an opinion on this event, n'est pas?
Quote: (10-01-2015 09:05 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
It was only one persons life in danger, right?
Quote: (10-01-2015 09:05 PM)RioNomad Wrote:
I'm not surprised by that. It was only one persons life in danger, right? Not the same as being lined up execution style by only one shooter and knowing for a fact you are going to die if you don't do something.
Quote: (10-01-2015 09:16 PM)SHANbangs Wrote:
It seems there is a critical mass problem to gun control.
I have no doubt that if there were a concerted effort to crack down on guns ie. zero tolerance, complete ban, a war on gun smuggling across the border, absolute and total repurchase of guns by the government - we would reduce these incidents. Yes, mental health is a rising issue in this country, but you're kidding yourself if you think this country is more mentally deranged per country than the next 10 OECD countries combined, when those countries, combined, have fewer shootings.
I do agree that anything short of that only shifts the ease of gun acquisition away from law abiding citizens and towards criminals, crazies, and terrorists. Unfortunately, with the second amendment, federalism, NRA, and political culture in this country, the former is near politically impossible. So we will get half-hearted "solutions" that don't really do anything. And when more shootings continue, the supporters of gun freedom will point to these "solutions" as evidence that gun control doesn't work.
On another note: it always strikes me as ludicrous how much of the american political discourse is based on the pretense that it is the only liberal, capitalist democracy in the world. Canada and Australia seem like infinitely less dysfunctional, per capita, countries than the U.S. Singapore and Hong Kong, while not real democracies, seem to provide better standards of living, lower taxes, vice freedoms like prostitution ie. libertarian authoritarianism. None of them have second amendment rights and, uh, they aren't exactly castro's cuba.
When I am of parenting age I will be GTFOing out of the U.S. Too much unnecessary shit compared to peer developed countries - gun violence, police brutality, cowboy interventionist foreign policy, affirmative action, shitty divorce laws, insane tuition (even for public universities), false rape epidemic. I realize other countries have some of these things, but I can name no other developed country with all of these issues.